Oh, and @creepycoug, why do you assume there are a bunch of black guys playing basketball in Liberty City? Would it be different if I went to a library there? Asking for a friend.
Because I've been there and you're a lot more likely to find people playing basketball, or smoking crack, at a park than you are to find a library with anyone in it. But I'll tell ya what: go there and find a library, and if you find one, walk in and call the first group of black people you see "chimps" in a desperate attempt at rescuing your shit logic and come back and tell me what happens.
Does calling HH my "buddy" help you make your point?
Why would I call them “chimps?” What’s your point? You’ve butted in on years of Lionel believing and saying racist things because ... why? Mind your business.
Fuck you. You're a guest. I live here bitch. Move me.
My point. You're working too hard here you disingenuous piece of shit.
You're trying like a fucking worn out mule to make it like anybody who thinks calling a black person an ape or a chimp or a monkey is racist themselves, which is a fucking joke and retard logic on display; and if you don't know that, you're actually as stupid as I perceived you to be when you first showed up.
But forget the debate. Grab your little faggot balls and go prove your point. I've already told you that people call people shit all the fucking time for good and bad reasons. Go find some black people and, as soon as you can find an opening, call one of them a monkey and report back. Think of it as a field trip for retards.
Retard.
You seem to have a hard-on for calling black people monkeys and chimps. I can only read the words you wrote and form an opinion on them, “centrist.”
As I thought. No game.
Any time you want to reconsider princess, I'm right here.
Oh, and @creepycoug, why do you assume there are a bunch of black guys playing basketball in Liberty City? Would it be different if I went to a library there? Asking for a friend.
These gymnastics are gymnastics, Boris. Very dishonest.
White flag
When to you the most horrifying aspect of seeing a man shot to death is that the shooter is accused of being motivated by racism, you’ve got issues or you’re just stirring up shit for the rubles. blob has issues; you’ve suddenly shown up in another Presidential election year, just like four years ago. The jury’s out on your motives, Comrade.
You call yourself a lawyer and THAT's your analysis? Kreist! The Bar will take anyone these days, won't they?
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
Why do you think of black people when you think of monkeys Tommy? Were leftist trying to insult Bush by calling him a black man when they called him "Chimpy?"
I was calling a President a Chimp, when I called Obama "O'Chimp" which is what I thought was the acceptable way to refer to Presidents. Trumpanzee, Chimpy, and O'Chimpy.
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
Like I said, I wasn't there, don't appreciate the context, and thus offered, and offer, no commentary.
My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.
I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
Like I said, I wasn't there, don't appreciate the context, and thus offered no commentary on the origins of this.
My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.
I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantly
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
W getting called a chimp has a totally different connotation than when you say the same thing to a black man.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
And that's the problem, made worse by people of your ilk, @ThomasFremont. It's different because you want it to be different.
Yes, it is MY fault that people used to own black people as slaves and thought of them as subhuman.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
Well yeah. You pine for slaves and the good old days constantly
This tired game of blob’s hasn’t changed in 20 years.
“Only racists see racism!”
“I call Obama ‘O’Chimpy’ because LIBERALS!”
etc.
This has always been a HHutzky favorite of mine. He reads the word “chimp” and automatically his mind goes to black people. Not at all racist!
Eh. I was loathe to jump into this particular thread and have had my disagreements with HH; and, moreover, I didn't read anyone here refer to Obama that way.
But if they did, it would be pretty common, given the history of the use of that term with black people, for a negative inference to be drawn. There's a reason for it. Or let's just say, why don't you fly down to Miami, head over to Liberty City, find a park, and ask to join a pick-up basketball game with "hey, you monkeys have room for one more?" and see what happens to you.
Why would I call any human beings “monkeys?” Your buddy @HHusky’s mind assigns race on humans to that word, not me. H likely sees that group of ball players and thinks of a bunch of “monkeys,”based on his many years of racism on The Shed and his leap from “chimp” to blacks in this very thread. Don’t blame me for your buddy’s written words and racist thoughts.
I'm not jumping into the point of the original question. I have never set foot on the Oregon site and thus wasn't there for the context so will leave it at that.
I'll say this, though, to your point: there are terms that are justifiably a problem for some people and not others. Sure, we shouldn't assign words so much meaning, but we? do. Call a black dude a monkey or a chimp, with no other context, and you're going to have a different problem than you would if you called a white guy the same name.
To your question, I can think of a lot of contexts in which I'd call someone a monkey. I used to call my kids little monkeys. I've told grown men that they smell like a monkey or are about as smart as a monkey (fucking around of course). I've called a hairy guy a fucking ape. I've called a muscle head numbskull I know an ape. We've all done this. I've asked a guy who ate all the watermelon at my kid's grad party, "Hey Mike. What's with all the fucking watermelon dude?"
If any of those people were black, I would have chosen differently. Not because I'm scared; but because there's a layer of shit there of which I'm aware and I wasn't motivated to tap into. Maybe if the friend were a black dude the joke would have been poking fun at the stereotype. But I would refrain from calling a black guy a monkey or chimp or ape even if I knew him and I wouldn't hesitate saying it to a white guy. The white guy isn't going to take it the same way. Ever.
You call a black guy a chimp, it's different. It may not be your intent for it to be different, but because of a few million assholes who came before you who actually thought no more of black human beings than they thought of primates, there's a whole different connotation.
Surely you agree with this.
No one was calling a black guy a chimp. On a political message board Obama was referred to as "O'Chimpy" after 8 years of hearing Bush referred to as "Chimpy." What do you think is more likely? That I, a white guy who is married to black woman and who has three black kids is really some closeted racist who thinks of blacks as monkeys, or that I was trying to get a rise out of leftists who thought it was the height of humor to call Bush a chimp?
I have black friends so I can't be a racist POTD
Yeah because that's just like having a black wife and three black kids. Stick to swallowing like a bitch Russia collusion bullshit IC, you suck at everything else.
This is where you post your lie that I pushed Pizzagate.
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Any time you want to reconsider princess, I'm right here.
And you did it to yourself.
Fucking pathetic.
Your feigned ignorance of this is fooling nobody.
I was calling a President a Chimp, when I called Obama "O'Chimp" which is what I thought was the acceptable way to refer to Presidents. Trumpanzee, Chimpy, and O'Chimpy.
My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.
I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
My response was to the logic by Dumbo that anyone who reacts to someone calling a black guy a chimp or other historically loaded term is somehow themselves racist because "association", which is ostensibly disingenuous and retarded. As if such terms had no history as applied to a particular group. Call me a "Mick" and all you're doing is confusing me. Say it to a guy in Dublin and you have a whole different encounter.
I've not observed you to be a racist person here, and that was before knowing you're married to a black woman. About the only person I have observed to truly reveal some questionable views on people not like himself is our favorite banana conspiracy theorist. Otherwise, it's not a charge I throw around lightly.
You keep saying they are attacking the sheep without any evidence to support it. So yes, your allegations of "isms" are met with "Meh."
Be a better poaster. It starts with effort, you lazy fuck.
It’s also MY fault that some (albeit fewer) still think that way and use the language of those times.
What kind of retarded reverse racism argument you gonna come up with next?
All your fault!
This is where you post your lie that I pushed Pizzagate.