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HHusky

https://www.nationalreview.com/2020/04/coronavirus-kills-more-americans-in-one-month-than-the-flu-kills-in-one-year/

Although there is still much we don’t know about the coronavirus, we know enough to say that it is far more dangerous and deadly than the flu. It took twelve months and 61 million infections for the H1N1 swine flu to kill 12,500 Americans in 2009–10. The Centers for Disease Control estimated that the seasonal flu killed 34,200 Americans during the 2018–19 flu season. In 2019, car crashes killed 38,800 Americans.

As for the new coronavirus? On March 20, the death toll in the United States was 225. By April 20, the coronavirus had killed more than 42,000 Americans.[over 45,000 now]

. . .

Despite the rapidity with which the coronavirus has killed tens of thousands of Americans, some on the right have continued to argue that the pandemic will end up being no more serious than a bad flu season. On Fox News last week, Bill Bennett said that “we’re going to have fewer fatalities from this than from the flu.” He pointed to the fact that the IMHE model from the University of Washington estimated that COVID-19 would most likely kill about 60,000 Americans and that the seasonal flu killed 61,000 Americans in 2017–18, a particularly bad flu season.

But as Rich Lowry pointed out last week, “if we are going to have 60,000 deaths with people not leaving their homes for more than a month, the number of deaths obviously would have been higher — much higher — if everyone had gone about business as usual.” Indeed, the IMHE model is making an estimate of the death toll only for a first wave of infections, and most of the country will still be vulnerable to infection after the first wave passes.

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

RaceBannon

HHusky

Have the courage of your convictions and take a midnight train to Georgia, Race.

(L.A. proved too much for the man.)

GrundleStiltzkin

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

HHusky

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production and distribution is on it.

GrundleStiltzkin

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

Good to know that agricultural conscription is on the table.

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

HHusky

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

Good to know that agricultural conscription is on the table.

If only there was somewhere we could get labor for our farms.

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

Have the courage of your convictions and take a midnight train to Georgia, Race.

(L.A. proved too much for the man.)

We're starting back next week in California where Covid isnt even as bad as the flu

Hide under the bed

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

GrundleStiltzkin

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

Good to know that agricultural conscription is on the table.

If only there was somewhere we could get labor for our farms.

https://www.wsj.com/podcasts/why-farmers-are-breaking-eggs-and-dumping-milk/0AE090E3-2635-4E6A-A44F-7C6BE3DF75E0.html

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

But Trump didn't act and has blood on his hands!!!!!

Or Trump saved millions of lives by acting

What are we going with???

60k is a bad flu season Nancy

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

But Trump didn't act and has blood on his hands!!!!!

Or Trump saved millions of lives by acting

What are we going with???

60k is a bad flu season Nancy

This didn't replace the flu, Mabel. It's in addition to the flu. And 60,000 won't be the end of it.

SFGbob

I guess we should be happy that H didn't compare black people to monkeys in this thread, so in a sense this is small step in the right direction.

HHusky

SFGbob said:

I guess we should be happy that H didn't compare black people to monkeys in this thread, so in a sense this is small step in the right direction.

This irony won’t be lost on veterans of the Shed.

RaceBannon

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

But Trump didn't act and has blood on his hands!!!!!

Or Trump saved millions of lives by acting

What are we going with???

60k is a bad flu season Nancy

This didn't replace the flu, Mabel. It's in addition to the flu. And 60,000 won't be the end of it.

Every death is a Covid death. Keep hope alive and keep starving people

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/04/19/line-more-than-two-miles-long-for-food-distribution-in-rural-county/

PurpleThrobber

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

You sound like a Cuog crying about "if only it hadn't snowed, we'd have won", dazzler.

PurpleThrobber

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

But Trump didn't act and has blood on his hands!!!!!

Or Trump saved millions of lives by acting

What are we going with???

60k is a bad flu season Nancy

This didn't replace the flu, Mabel. It's in addition to the flu. And 60,000 won't be the end of it.

Every death is a Covid death. Keep hope alive and keep starving people

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/04/19/line-more-than-two-miles-long-for-food-distribution-in-rural-county/

Exactly.

When it became apparent every dying 80 year old was immediately a COVID-related death, the fix was exposed.

incremetal_progress

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

But Trump didn't act and has blood on his hands!!!!!

Or Trump saved millions of lives by acting

What are we going with???

60k is a bad flu season Nancy

This didn't replace the flu, Mabel. It's in addition to the flu. And 60,000 won't be the end of it.

Every death is a Covid death. Keep hope alive and keep starving people

https://www.click2houston.com/news/local/2020/04/19/line-more-than-two-miles-long-for-food-distribution-in-rural-county/

The US government is a massive failure, like always. Asking people to shelter in place and giving them a paltry $1,200 that can just be confiscated by banks for debt collection was not a good solution.

I would like to blame it on the GOP, but it doesn't seem like Chuck and Nancy give a shit either.

incremetal_progress

not to mention a healthcare system where insurance is tied to employment. 20 million lose their job, 20 million lose their health insurance. Yet nobody is proposing anything to fix that either.

It's almost like the virus is exposing all of the problems that already existed.

I disagree with the protesters, but if they are angry they have a right to be.

HHusky

PurpleThrobber said:

HHusky said:

RaceBannon said:

HHusky said:

GrundleStiltzkin said:

HHusky said:

While there are 800,000 confirmed coronavirus cases in the United States — that’s 0.24 percent of the U.S. population — former FDA commissioner Scott Gottlieb has noted that anywhere between 1 percent and 5 percent of Americans may have actually already been infected with the virus. But that’s far short of the 50 percent to 70 percent required to achieve herd immunity. The seasonal flu, by contrast, infected 12 percent of the American population last year because we have a flu vaccine and some more immunity from previous infections.

So weº sit here in isolation, at a 45 points below what's required for herd immunity, with no vaccine in sight, going broke until the food runs out.

There's a list of essential services. Food production is on it.

It's not working


Millions out of work because you're a pussy still clinging to bad math

2 million dead!

200,000 dead!

Fuck off

We'd easily hit 200,000 dead if you had your way. As it is, if deaths don't decline pretty damn soon, we'll hit that optimistic 60,000 figure by May 1.

You sound like a Cuog crying about "if only it hadn't snowed, we'd have won", dazzler.

I think my 100,000 number by the end of the year is looking pretty likely, though perhaps overly optimistic. Maybe you meant we’d have 5,000 dead if it hadn’t snowed?