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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    I love Layne and agree about the dusty muzak represented here. Staley was a bit of a bore as a frontman
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Freddie Mercury
    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    Came here to make this exact poast.

    TYFYS
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Mick Jagger
    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    That's what the Fuck Off option is for. ATBSJBS, what group on this list would you say AIC exceeds in historical importance?
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  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,839
    Freddie Mercury
    I can't choose the best from this list but these four certainly deserve to be chincluded

    Scott Stapp
    Chad Kroeger
    Kip Winger
    Fred Durst
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  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    minion_doog said:

    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    I love Layne and agree about the dusty muzak represented here. Staley was a bit of a bore as a frontman
    You like to call him Layne...
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863
    Mick Jagger
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    With guitar and harmonica its Neil Young

    Neil is a solo artist primarily who had a backing band, Caballo Loco.

    Springsteen is not a frontman. Bowie was not a front man. Etc, etc.
    Neil has always had a band. He's done more with a band than without

    You are wrong
    No, you are wrong.

    All solo artists have a backing band...

    For example...

    Neil Young & Crazy Horse
    Bob Seger & The Silver Bullet Band
    Bruce Springsteen & The E-Street Band
    Smokey Robinson & The Miracle
    Paul McCartney & Wings
    David Bowie & Spiders From Mars
    Prince & The Revolution
    James Brown & The Famous Flames

    This is a different dynamic than a REAL "band" which is more of a group of co-equals. There's no Mick Jagger & The Rolling Stones or Don Henley & The Eagles.
    Paul McCartney and Wings were just Wings when they released the stuff. I think after the re-issues and band infighting/breakup did they get re-branded as Paul McCartney & Wings.
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863
    Mick Jagger
    YellowSnow said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Better stay out of my wheelhouse kid

    He fronts bands

    Don't make me call Harv. I get enough texts about you already

    I ain't no kid who doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Get Harv up in here...



    That's a good start.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Fuck-off, the obvious choice is
    Neil Young fronts a band. Period end of story

    Let's not be fucking stupid around here
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:

    Neil Young fronts a band. Period end of story

    Let's not be fucking stupid around here


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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:

    Neil Young fronts a band. Period end of story

    Let's not be fucking stupid around here

    So does Bog Seger. So does Bruce Springsteen.

    There's no bins for the Silver Bullet Band or the E-Street Band at the record store.

    There is one for Crazy Horse, however. Their debut LP from 1970 is phenomenal and Neil ain't on it. They were a distinct musical until that he was not a member of officially speaking and served as his backing band or co-billing on some albums- i.e., Neil Young & Crazy Horse.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Fuck-off, the obvious choice is

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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:


    In real life, I am respeckful of elders to a fault. You're making this tough day for me emotionally speaking. I might need to go walk around Green Lake for perspective.
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863
    edited January 2020
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:


    I'm normally a @RaceBannon fan. I'm also a huge Neil Young fan, but I agree with @YellowSnow on this one. Neil has played with two many backing bands. If it was Crazy Horse all the time, then maybe. But there was also the Stray Gators, Bluenotes, Promise of the Real, Booker T. and the MGs, Shocking Pinks, The International Harvesters, The Santa Monica Flyers, etc.
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    edited January 2020
    Mick Jagger
    alumni94 said:

    RaceBannon said:


    I'm normally a @RaceBannon fan. I'm also a huge Neil Young fan, but I agree with @YellowSnow on this one. Neil has played with two many backing bands. If it was Crazy Horse all the time, then maybe. But there was also the Stray Gators, Bluenotes, Promise of the Real, Booker T. and the MGs, Shocking Pinks, The International Harvesters, The Santa Monica Flyers, etc.
    Race has had it in for me here all because of fucking Rod Stewart. Mind you I voted for Neil Young over hot Rod in my shitty Little Rock tournament. It was the other knuckle heads that screwed it up.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,883 Founders Club
    Fuck-off, the obvious choice is
    I like to list all the bands a guy has to prove he's a solo artist
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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:

    I like to list all the bands a guy has to prove he's a solo artist

    He should have stayed in Buffalo Springfield and convinced Still to do the same. They could have been as big as the Beatles and we could all go back to being frens.
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  • chuck
    chuck Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 11,678 Swaye's Wigwam
    Mick Jagger
    YellowSnow said:

    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    That's what the Fuck Off option is for. ATBSJBS, what group on this list would you say AIC exceeds in historical importance?
    I'm not considering historical importance. I'm simply considering quality and how well guys fit the frontman label. Staley is as good as there has ever been in my not so humble opinion. Jagger and Plant, even Daltrey, get an extra boost in my mind due to longevity and the size of the body of work. I dont personally put anyone else mentioned here above Staley.
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  • Baseman
    Baseman Member Posts: 12,369
    Jim Morrison
    chuck said:

    YellowSnow said:

    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    That's what the Fuck Off option is for. ATBSJBS, what group on this list would you say AIC exceeds in historical importance?
    I'm not considering historical importance. I'm simply considering quality and how well guys fit the frontman label. Staley is as good as there has ever been in my not so humble opinion. Jagger and Plant, even Daltrey, get an extra boost in my mind due to longevity and the size of the body of work. I dont personally put anyone else mentioned here above Staley.
    Well, fuck a duck, Chuck. you're just plain Loco.
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  • huskyhooligan
    huskyhooligan Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 5,930 Swaye's Wigwam
    Fuck-off, the obvious choice is
    creepycoug said:

    huskyhooligan said:


    Axl Rose.

    Wins pole rather easily:


    I mean its a sweatpants shorts boner.

    Honorable mentions not on the list:
    Sebastian Bach - Skid Row
    Vince Neil - The Crue
    Dee Snider. ha ha I actually love Twisted Sister. There's a documentary about how they couldn't get a record deal despite selling out show after show in the tri-state area for like 7 years.
    Oderus Urungus - GWAR (I don't remember him playing a guitar, just using an axe to re-kill Jerry Garcia)

    JFC.

    Skid Row? Garbage.

    Vince Neil? Eh, he was ok. Not a generational talent by any stretch.

    Dee Snider? One fucking song ever, and I hated it then, and hate it even more now. A complete nothing band and nothing front man. Rotten garbage.

    Who?
    Skid Row, mostly for his pipes, and every interview I imagine its like hanging out with swaye, just lots of tits and blow. Makes me laugh.
    It's Motley Crue. Arguably one of the biggest acts of the 80's. They are still selling out places. They never wrote stairway to heaven but other than GnR, and Lynyrd Skynyrd, probably no better music to get drunk, or run to. Also Neil is the only front man I know to have killed someone.
    Dee Snider - Great live act, underated band and music. I recommend watching We Are Twisted Fucking Sister. They were black balled by record companies despite probably selling out more shows than bigger signed acts.
    You don't know who Gwar is? Okay, honestly Gwar's music sucks, but they put on one of the best shows one could dream of attending.

    Let's not forget that some of these front men had the privilege of singing for some amazing bands. It's not far fetched to say you could mix and match and get similar results.

    Lastly my vote was for Axl Rose. Was just throwing some underrated guys into the ring.
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  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    Fuck-off, the obvious choice is
    minion_doog said:

    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    I love Layne and agree about the dusty muzak represented here. Staley was a bit of a bore as a frontman
    Couldn't pick Layne out of a police lineup. Falls into the 'also getting votes' status like a G5 Toledo or ECU.

    Mick if the name of the artist isn't included in the band name; As @ThomasFremont points out, Prince if it is.

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  • Fenderbender123
    Fenderbender123 Member Posts: 2,989
    Roger Daltrey
    Too many good ones to choose from. I picked Roger because he didn't have any votes. Wtf.
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  • IPukeOregonGrellow
    IPukeOregonGrellow Member Posts: 2,183
    DerekJohnson said:

    Anthony Kiedis


    Mike Patton

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdHrGLkFG6U
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  • Bad_MotherDucker
    Bad_MotherDucker Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 1,368 Swaye's Wigwam
    Robert Plant
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  • Tequilla
    Tequilla Member Posts: 20,098
    Mick Jagger
    Mad_Son said:

    Objectively it's Jagger, but I just don't enjoy the stones.

    +1
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  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,129
    Mick Jagger
    minion_doog said:

    chuck said:

    The fact nobody mentioned Layne Staley in this thread speaks volumes about the generic, shitty taste of this board. I'm not even sure I want to post here anymore.

    I love Layne and agree about the dusty muzak represented here. Staley was a bit of a bore as a frontman
    This is true. Same for Kurt. Great artists, not amazing live performers.
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  • creepycoug
    creepycoug Member Posts: 24,046
    Robert Plant
    RoadDawg55 said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    creepycoug said:

    YellowSnow said:

    Freddie had the best set of pipes, although I don't like the Queen shtick that much and fine them overrated.

    Daltrey was the most gifted athletically and was doing the curly blonde haired thing was before Plant.

    But Mick was first by a long shot. He was the first rock guy to rip off the James Brown moves and be a showman. All rock frontmen are derived from Mick.

    Although as Paul Stanley points out in the multi-disc auto of Paul Stanley, Daltry only grew it out long to do the long curly locks look after Plant arrived.

    To hear Stanley say it, EVERY front man wanted to be like Plant after he showed up. Roger was wearing the curly curls short b4 LZ.

    Cook it! It's Plant for the heavy stuff; Jagger for the lighter stuff.

    Cook it!
    What the fuck are you talking about counselor? @creepycoug here is Daltrey live in 1968 BEFORE Led Zeppelin had even released a record. Daltrey was first.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=RJv2-_--EY4


    longer
    Stay in your lane @creepycoug . Here’s Zep live in late 1968. Same timeframe as The Who video. Plant’s blonde locks are no longer than Daltrey’s. The longer hair came later.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=mMCbmkD5xao
    Stanley says it came on Plant b4 Daltry.

    I'm going with the Star Child pendejito. It takes more than a record collection to out-duel the front man of KISS. Sorry. Not sorry.

    Everybody wanted to be Plant when Zep got it going bra'. Take your Who and their child-porn lead guitarist and LEAVE! this discussion.
    Kiss sucks. They are not a group for serious rock.

    Anyone who actually likes Kiss gets serious judgement from me. The whole gimmick and talent of that band is pure shit.
    Some of the old shit is not bad. Cold Gin is good or GTFO. Talented musicians ... are we talking technical? You're right that they're not all that, although many guitar people I know personally, and I've seen it written, that Ace was a talent until he couldn't walk anymore. Paul Stanley freely admits his limitations as guitarist and has talked about it quite openly in telling the Kiss story.

    They were original and did their own thing. I can respect that. A lot of good bands aren't super talented musicians. Nirvana had one technically gifted player in Grohl. Their impact was being first and different. Early on, Kiss has some claim to the same.

    The Kiss Alive album in 75 is one of my favorite live albums all-tim, although I generally don't like them.

    Judge away. I'm the Creep: IDRGAF.
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  • minion_doog
    minion_doog Member Posts: 2,024
    RoadDawg55 said:

    DDY has given me shit for it before, but Scott Weiland was the best live performer of any frontman in the 90’s. I put STP behind AIC, Soundgarden, and Nirvana, but he was better live than all three of their frontmen.

    I'd put Anthony Kiedis right there with him
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  • alumni94
    alumni94 Member Posts: 4,863
    Mick Jagger
    RaceBannon said:

    I like to list all the bands a guy has to prove he's a solo artist

    You forgot the a word. Backing. "backing bands"...
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