If Jimmy can’t find coaches who can recruit as well as coach then he can fuck off straight to hell.
Huff recruits like a madman, but seems mediocre as a coach. Strausser was a really good coach, but a fucking disaster as a recruiter.
We shouldn’t have to settle for one or the other. Get a dude who can do both. It’s not that complicated.
There aren’t that many that are really good at both. Should definitely be the goal. The outrage over those that can’t recruit is 100X greater than those that can recruit but can’t coach.
The results are more tangible in recruiting. It’s easier for a fan to be able to determine which recruits a coach was primarily responsible for and which other schools that coach out recruited.
With coaching unless you are at the practices and in the meetings you don’t really know whose fault it is the offense is broken or who should get the most credit for the successful defense.
Example A being Jonathon Smith who everyone hated but it turns out he may have been held back by Petersen.
Yeah when it comes to position coaches its extremely difficult to judge if they are good at 'coaching'. I just don't think the difference in coaching ability is really that different from one wide receiver coach to another.
Offensive and defensive coordinators matter a ton, but for everyone else I'm with Sonics that its 75% recruiting.
Disagree.
When it comes to complete scheme collapse its hard to tell what the failure actually is, but even then its narrowed down to either the HC or the OC.
When it comes to evaluating coaching ability of position coaches for a team you watch its incredibly easy...
Any fucktard can look at our games over a season and determine;
QB coaching and group management has been horrible to non-existent WR coaching and group management has been terrible to bad OL coaching and group management has been average RB coaching and group management has been decent TE coaching and group management has been great
Its not rocket science. Do the players get better the longer they are in the program? How often do players exceed their expectations or appear to max out their physical abilities? How often do their players flame out? Does their unit not have obvious fuckups?
I guess I’m a fucktard then because I can’t distinguish whether our TE group’s success is due to our scheme or PaoPao’s brilliant teaching abilities.
I also can’t distinguish whether our WRs suck because of said scheme, QB problems, poor coaching, playing the wrong guys, or just lack of talent (abundance.)
It’s all interrelated.
You cant?
Paopao coached TEs at UW from 2011 till present... basically every TE that he was around while at UW is CURRENTLY in the NFL or well on their way and produced on the field with the opportunities given despite people constantly complaining that our scheme didnt use TEs nearly enough.
Paopaos biggest knock was his recruiting... I dont know how you could see the positive results on the field and the success his players have had after UW despite apparently bringing in subpar talent and not be able to figure it out?
Corey Luciano false start was due to lack of bodies in the TE room. Having 1 good TE is not good enough when you play with 2 or 3 at a time
what does one converted player during one play have to do with the overall coaching ability of a position coach across 6+ years?
The "lack of bodies" is directly related to recruiting not his coaching/teaching/development ability.
Ok homie, false start was due to coaching. Corry should have not been in there in the first place, decision to play him at such a critical time was questionable.
I'm hearing Donovan is lobbying for him to come back to Washington with his NFL background.
He's and X's and O's kind of guy.
That would be cool. I just looked up Strausser. OL coach of the Colts, an OL that gave up the fewest sacks in the NFL. The talent is already here. Fuck what anybody says, Strausser is a huge upgrade over Huff coaching wise.
Edit: 6th in rushing too. Strausser can coach. 2016 was still our best OL. I know PFF has said otherwise, but Coleman had huge holes that year almost every game.
Alabama was the OL’s only shitty game and that was a loaded front 7. We haven’t faced one close to as good since.
No one is fact checking this post and it's stated so matter-of-factly and has upvotes I guess I will respond.
Indy gave up the least amount of sacks in the league...in 2018, then they hired Strausser this year and they were middle of the league. (18 sacks given up in 18, 32 in 2019). This is with Quentin 'potentially best guard in the past 20 years' Nelson and Costanzo on the left side.
11th in the league in yards per rush. 7th total rush yards with the 5th most rush attempts.
Strausser is a pretty good OL coach and 2016 is the best OL we've had in years. But as much as you like to pooh-pooh recruiting, the formula for winning natties has been face-slappingly obvious pretty much the whole decade: you need top tier talent to get over the hump. Strausser was failing hard here in recruiting and needed to go.
I read it wrong and they were talking about last year. One OL doesn’t make a group good either. Here was my initial link.
Strausser was way better than Huff. I don’t poo poo recruiting, but we are always pretty much at the same level and have been for awhile. We are 15th-25th typically in recruiting. The next OL that plays above their level will be Huff’s first. I don’t remember the OL being so frequently confused with Strausser. They were mostly younger too.
I’ve always said the recruiting rankings are a chicken and egg thing. The players offered by the top schools get bumped up. Until we get elite players instead did mid 4 star guys, coaching will be more important.
Huff killed it this year in recruiting. The other OL classes were okay and we’ll find out, but I think they will end up being overrated, especially last year’s after Fautanu.
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Strausser was way better than Huff. I don’t poo poo recruiting, but we are always pretty much at the same level and have been for awhile. We are 15th-25th typically in recruiting. The next OL that plays above their level will be Huff’s first. I don’t remember the OL being so frequently confused with Strausser. They were mostly younger too.
I’ve always said the recruiting rankings are a chicken and egg thing. The players offered by the top schools get bumped up. Until we get elite players instead did mid 4 star guys, coaching will be more important.
Huff killed it this year in recruiting. The other OL classes were okay and we’ll find out, but I think they will end up being overrated, especially last year’s after Fautanu.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.espn.com.au/blog/indianapolis-colts/post/_/id/25135/colts-offensive-line-takes-care-of-business-but-taps-into-fun-side?platform=amp
Lake said on kjr Huff is the best in the country. Prove it this year. If talent is King then they should should kick ass. We shall see.
See you at the kick-ass spring game.