I like being lectured about relative military strengths by people who know very little about the military. I like that.
Yes the guy who said that “end of a nuclear state Iran” in the OP should be taken seriously on this. Iran’s facilities are deep underground and well guarded. You would have to occupy the country to fully dismantle them. The IDF couldn’t occupy Southern Lebanon but Iran is somehow easier? Ok.
You should stop embarrassing yourself by talking about things you have no idea about.
I like being lectured about relative military strengths by people who know very little about the military. I like that.
Yes the guy who said that “end of a nuclear state Iran” in the OP should be taken seriously on this. Iran’s facilities are deep underground and well guarded. You would have to occupy the country to fully dismantle them. The IDF couldn’t occupy Southern Lebanon but Iran is somehow easier? Ok.
You should stop embarrassing yourself by talking about things you have no idea about.
I like being lectured about relative military strengths by people who know very little about the military. I like that.
Yes the guy who said that “end of a nuclear state Iran” in the OP should be taken seriously on this. Iran’s facilities are deep underground and well guarded. You would have to occupy the country to fully dismantle them. The IDF couldn’t occupy Southern Lebanon but Iran is somehow easier? Ok.
@dhdawg is telling us that Iran already dismantled their nuclear program.
How did it go for Israel the last time they fought an Iran backed militia in Lebanon in 2006?
Stalemate. Against Lebanon...
I like to claim guerilla fighters hiding amongst civilian soft targets to be a "stalemate"
If Isreal didnt give a fuck about minimizing civilian casualties, Lebanon would capitulate in about a day.
There is a difference between destroying the Iraqi army in a few days, versus getting shot at by guerillas hiding amongst civilians.
Scoreboard, baby. Not excuses.
You sound like some Vietnam War Boomer revisionist crying about how we? REALLY actually won the war if it wasn’t for all of these excuses.
You think Iran is gonna fight “fair”??? Does Israel suddenly get to stop caring about civilian casualties?
It’s almost like it’s not as easy as the chicken hawks always wanna make it sound.
Our policy was not to invade North Vietnam. Vietnam was an absolute clusterfuck and totally different than an Isreal vs Iran total war scenario we are discussing.
South Korea was actually a competent ally, which is why it still exists. South Vietnam, not so much
Say what you want about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The US takes great care to only take out military targets. Yes platoons and individual soldiers go rogue. In a total war scenario, Iran is getting beat rather easily, say 17-34 days? By Isreal alone...
Occupying a country full of Viet Cong or Taliban doesnt really work. You cant defeat that ideology by force.
In the context of not accomplishing objectives, Nam was a disaster. We did what we wanted to with Afghanistan and Iraq. The problem was staying
In an all out war Isreal is not going to be that concerned with collateral. Their existence is at stake.
How did it go for Israel the last time they fought an Iran backed militia in Lebanon in 2006?
Stalemate. Against Lebanon...
I like to claim guerilla fighters hiding amongst civilian soft targets to be a "stalemate"
If Isreal didnt give a fuck about minimizing civilian casualties, Lebanon would capitulate in about a day.
There is a difference between destroying the Iraqi army in a few days, versus getting shot at by guerillas hiding amongst civilians.
Scoreboard, baby. Not excuses.
You sound like some Vietnam War Boomer revisionist crying about how we? REALLY actually won the war if it wasn’t for all of these excuses.
You think Iran is gonna fight “fair”??? Does Israel suddenly get to stop caring about civilian casualties?
It’s almost like it’s not as easy as the chicken hawks always wanna make it sound.
Our policy was not to invade North Vietnam. Vietnam was an absolute clusterfuck and totally different than an Isreal vs Iran total war scenario we are discussing.
South Korea was actually a competent ally, which is why it still exists. South Vietnam, not so much
Say what you want about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The US takes great care to only take out military targets. Yes platoons and individual soldiers go rogue. In a total war scenario, Iran is getting beat rather easily, say 17-34 days? By Isreal alone...
Occupying a country full of Viet Cong or Taliban doesnt really work. You cant defeat that ideology by force.
In the context of not accomplishing objectives, Nam was a disaster. We did what we wanted to with Afghanistan and Iraq. The problem was staying
In an all out war Isreal is not going to be that concerned with collateral. Their existence is at stake.
If Iran attacked Israel, agreed. Multiple attempts by others have failed, and typically ended with Israel counter-attacking and having more territory by the end. Israel excels at defending the red zone.
But we’re talking about invading Iran. It’s not a question of if we can win. Or if Israel alone (pipe dream that won’t happen) could win. That’s a given. But at what cost? More of ours would die than in Iraq, and certainly the country would be obliterated. That’s a lot of civilians dying. And a lot of Americans dying.
That’s a certainty. Iran having nukes is not. You really ok with WMD 2.0?
How did it go for Israel the last time they fought an Iran backed militia in Lebanon in 2006?
Stalemate. Against Lebanon...
I like to claim guerilla fighters hiding amongst civilian soft targets to be a "stalemate"
If Isreal didnt give a fuck about minimizing civilian casualties, Lebanon would capitulate in about a day.
There is a difference between destroying the Iraqi army in a few days, versus getting shot at by guerillas hiding amongst civilians.
Scoreboard, baby. Not excuses.
You sound like some Vietnam War Boomer revisionist crying about how we? REALLY actually won the war if it wasn’t for all of these excuses.
You think Iran is gonna fight “fair”??? Does Israel suddenly get to stop caring about civilian casualties?
It’s almost like it’s not as easy as the chicken hawks always wanna make it sound.
Our policy was not to invade North Vietnam. Vietnam was an absolute clusterfuck and totally different than an Isreal vs Iran total war scenario we are discussing.
South Korea was actually a competent ally, which is why it still exists. South Vietnam, not so much
Say what you want about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The US takes great care to only take out military targets. Yes platoons and individual soldiers go rogue. In a total war scenario, Iran is getting beat rather easily, say 17-34 days? By Isreal alone...
Occupying a country full of Viet Cong or Taliban doesnt really work. You cant defeat that ideology by force.
In the context of not accomplishing objectives, Nam was a disaster. We did what we wanted to with Afghanistan and Iraq. The problem was staying
In an all out war Isreal is not going to be that concerned with collateral. Their existence is at stake.
If Iran attacked Israel, agreed. Multiple attempts by others have failed, and typically ended with Israel counter-attacking and having more territory by the end. Israel excels at defending the red zone.
But we’re talking about invading Iran. It’s not a question of if we can win. Or if Israel alone (pipe dream that won’t happen) could win. That’s a given. But at what cost? More of ours would die than in Iraq, and certainly the country would be obliterated. That’s a lot of civilians dying. And a lot of Americans dying.
That’s a certainty. Iran having nukes is not. You really ok with WMD 2.0?
I like being lectured about relative military strengths by people who know very little about the military. I like that.
Yes the guy who said that “end of a nuclear state Iran” in the OP should be taken seriously on this. Iran’s facilities are deep underground and well guarded. You would have to occupy the country to fully dismantle them. The IDF couldn’t occupy Southern Lebanon but Iran is somehow easier? Ok.
Nothing gets @hardlyclothed1 more excited than death threats from Iran
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Congrats on supporting the George W. Bush agenda in 2020.
You might want to lurk a little bit and get a feel for the place
Nothing could help this retard. He probably read some Wikipedia on Iran earlier today and is now an expert.
If he was around in 1990, he was saying "But Iraq has the 3rd largest, most battle-tested army in the world." Like CNN said repeatedly. And which surrendered outright in less than a day.
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But neutron bombs would make more sense we need that oil equipment humming.
If Isreal didnt give a fuck about minimizing civilian casualties, Lebanon would capitulate in about a day.
There is a difference between destroying the Iraqi army in a few days, versus getting shot at by guerillas hiding amongst civilians.
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You sound like some Vietnam War Boomer revisionist crying about how we? REALLY actually won the war if it wasn’t for all of these excuses.
You think Iran is gonna fight “fair”??? Does Israel suddenly get to stop caring about civilian casualties?
It’s almost like it’s not as easy as the chicken hawks always wanna make it sound.
South Korea was actually a competent ally, which is why it still exists. South Vietnam, not so much
Say what you want about Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. The US takes great care to only take out military targets. Yes platoons and individual soldiers go rogue. In a total war scenario, Iran is getting beat rather easily, say 17-34 days? By Isreal alone...
Occupying a country full of Viet Cong or Taliban doesnt really work. You cant defeat that ideology by force.
In the context of not accomplishing objectives, Nam was a disaster. We did what we wanted to with Afghanistan and Iraq. The problem was staying
In an all out war Isreal is not going to be that concerned with collateral. Their existence is at stake.
But we’re talking about invading Iran. It’s not a question of if we can win. Or if Israel alone (pipe dream that won’t happen) could win. That’s a given. But at what cost? More of ours would die than in Iraq, and certainly the country would be obliterated. That’s a lot of civilians dying. And a lot of Americans dying.
That’s a certainty. Iran having nukes is not. You really ok with WMD 2.0?
It's embarrassing.