Bush's never ending couch sale
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He needs more time to get his reads down is that what you saying?dnc said:
I don't think most guys generally move up the ladder that fast.PostGameOrangeSlices said:To be fair that resume looks like a lot of college football coach's resumes
Dude's an OC at a major program at 33 without having skipped any steps to get there and already having coached 3/5 of the offensive position groups. It's not record time or anything but it's pretty rare for someone to have done all of that that early. -
You might notice in the original post I directly addressed that they were all promotions, but only UW promoted him internally. Ie, his current employer (excepting UW) always said "go ahead" when he told them he had another job offer.Bread said:Your crazy all but 2015 are promotions. The only weird thing is how he managed to land a promotion every year. Trying to turn that into a negative is the biggest twist of the year
Maybe you think HamMan is a killer coach; DDY and budz convinced a lot of people of that, so I wouldn't blame you. But personally I'm not seeing it, and with the benefit of hindsight, maybe that is borne out by the pattern of his constant change of scenery.
I then even mused as to why he kept getting promotions; I think it is more likely people think Pete has a secret sauce than they looked at Bush's personal accomplishments when deciding to hire him.
But, in the end, I hope we are again one of those employers that wishes him well in his future endeavors and lets someone else discover his true mettle. -
I think Hamdan got promoted over his head to "learn on the job" since it was Pete's offense that he was running anyways. He's been promoted over his head and is struggling. It happens all the tim. It happened to Pete Carroll. We just care about the results too much to let him fail until he gets enough experience to get it right.
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Look at Matt Ryan's between 2016-2018. The bookend years are nearly identical but there was a sharp dropoff in 2017, the lone year Bush was his QB coach. There's probably other factors at play and some of the blame falls on Sark the OC as well but it is still an indictment on Bush.
2016: 4944 yards, 38 TDs, 7 INTs, 69.9% comp rate
2017: 4095 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs, 64.7% comp rate
2018: 4924 yards, 35 TDs, 7 INts, 69.4% comp rate
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm#all_passing -
OTOH he had chincredible results as WR coach here in 2016. John Ross knew two routes and was so bad at the others that he sent to defense before Hamdan got here. Dante Pettis was JAG.Emoterman said:
You might notice in the original post I directly addressed that they were all promotions, but only UW promoted him internally. Ie, his current employer (excepting UW) always said "go ahead" when he told them he had another job offer.Bread said:Your crazy all but 2015 are promotions. The only weird thing is how he managed to land a promotion every year. Trying to turn that into a negative is the biggest twist of the year
Maybe you think HamMan is a killer coach; DDY and budz convinced a lot of people of that, so I wouldn't blame you. But personally I'm not seeing it, and with the benefit of hindsight, maybe that is borne out by the pattern of his constant change of scenery.
I then even mused as to why he kept getting promotions; I think it is more likely people think Pete has a secret sauce than they looked at Bush's personal accomplishments when deciding to hire him.
But, in the end, I hope we are again one of those employers that wishes him well in his future endeavors and lets someone else discover his true mettle.
Ross, Pettis and Chico all had their best seasons rather easily in their one season under Bush.
I don't see any evidence he can coach QBs or run an offense but that doesn't mean he can't coach. And I doubt very strongly teams were just letting him walk without fighting to keep him.
You're creating a narrative here. -
That's what my big ape brain wants to do, and I thought what college football hobby boreds were all about.dnc said:
OTOH he had chincredible results as WR coach here in 2016. John Ross knew two routes and was so bad at the others that he sent to defense before Hamdan got here. Dante Pettis was JAG.Emoterman said:
You might notice in the original post I directly addressed that they were all promotions, but only UW promoted him internally. Ie, his current employer (excepting UW) always said "go ahead" when he told them he had another job offer.Bread said:Your crazy all but 2015 are promotions. The only weird thing is how he managed to land a promotion every year. Trying to turn that into a negative is the biggest twist of the year
Maybe you think HamMan is a killer coach; DDY and budz convinced a lot of people of that, so I wouldn't blame you. But personally I'm not seeing it, and with the benefit of hindsight, maybe that is borne out by the pattern of his constant change of scenery.
I then even mused as to why he kept getting promotions; I think it is more likely people think Pete has a secret sauce than they looked at Bush's personal accomplishments when deciding to hire him.
But, in the end, I hope we are again one of those employers that wishes him well in his future endeavors and lets someone else discover his true mettle.
Ross, Pettis and Chico all had their best seasons rather easily in their one season under Bush.
I don't see any evidence he can coach QBs or run an offense but that doesn't mean he can't coach. And I doubt very strongly teams were just letting him walk without fighting to keep him.
You're creating a narrative here.
I'm mostly ambivalent about his coaching ability, I'm too stupid to really assess it, and with all the confounding variables probably everyone else here is, too. I will admit I'm creating a narrative that supports my desired result of him being shown his walking papers, err, being promoted to OC/AHC at Davidson. -
This.dnc said:
OTOH he had chincredible results as WR coach here in 2016. John Ross knew two routes and was so bad at the others that he sent to defense before Hamdan got here. Dante Pettis was JAG.Emoterman said:
You might notice in the original post I directly addressed that they were all promotions, but only UW promoted him internally. Ie, his current employer (excepting UW) always said "go ahead" when he told them he had another job offer.Bread said:Your crazy all but 2015 are promotions. The only weird thing is how he managed to land a promotion every year. Trying to turn that into a negative is the biggest twist of the year
Maybe you think HamMan is a killer coach; DDY and budz convinced a lot of people of that, so I wouldn't blame you. But personally I'm not seeing it, and with the benefit of hindsight, maybe that is borne out by the pattern of his constant change of scenery.
I then even mused as to why he kept getting promotions; I think it is more likely people think Pete has a secret sauce than they looked at Bush's personal accomplishments when deciding to hire him.
But, in the end, I hope we are again one of those employers that wishes him well in his future endeavors and lets someone else discover his true mettle.
Ross, Pettis and Chico all had their best seasons rather easily in their one season under Bush.
I don't see any evidence he can coach QBs or run an offense but that doesn't mean he can't coach. And I doubt very strongly teams were just letting him walk without fighting to keep him.
You're creating a narrative here.
His tenure as UW receivers coach was too short to be 100% sure, but it sure as fuck looked to be going well.
His tenure as UWs OC and QB coach, plus his short stint at Atlanta, are enough. We know he sucks at both. There really shouldn't be a spot on the staff for him unless it's a demotion to WR and I'd prefer to see another year of Junior Adam's before that happened. -
FairEmoterman said:
That's what my big ape brain wants to do, and I thought what college football hobby boreds were all about.dnc said:
OTOH he had chincredible results as WR coach here in 2016. John Ross knew two routes and was so bad at the others that he sent to defense before Hamdan got here. Dante Pettis was JAG.Emoterman said:
You might notice in the original post I directly addressed that they were all promotions, but only UW promoted him internally. Ie, his current employer (excepting UW) always said "go ahead" when he told them he had another job offer.Bread said:Your crazy all but 2015 are promotions. The only weird thing is how he managed to land a promotion every year. Trying to turn that into a negative is the biggest twist of the year
Maybe you think HamMan is a killer coach; DDY and budz convinced a lot of people of that, so I wouldn't blame you. But personally I'm not seeing it, and with the benefit of hindsight, maybe that is borne out by the pattern of his constant change of scenery.
I then even mused as to why he kept getting promotions; I think it is more likely people think Pete has a secret sauce than they looked at Bush's personal accomplishments when deciding to hire him.
But, in the end, I hope we are again one of those employers that wishes him well in his future endeavors and lets someone else discover his true mettle.
Ross, Pettis and Chico all had their best seasons rather easily in their one season under Bush.
I don't see any evidence he can coach QBs or run an offense but that doesn't mean he can't coach. And I doubt very strongly teams were just letting him walk without fighting to keep him.
You're creating a narrative here.
I'm mostly ambivalent about his coaching ability, I'm too stupid to really assess it, and with all the confounding variables probably everyone else here is, too. I will admit I'm creating a narrative that supports my desired result of him being shown his walking papers, err, being promoted to OC/AHC at Davidson. -
I would apply QC directorfor but I might be part of the problemDerekJohnson said:
Hardcorehusky could use some quality controlNEsnake12 said:
It’s what Saban calls of the recently fired head coaches he hiresDoog_de_Jour said:Wait, there’s a coaching title of “Offensive Quality Control”?????

edit: damn i am no good with onr arm in a sling. keep hitting wrong buttons - so much for QC -
I LOL’d when Sark called two reverses in the red zone, near the goal line—both failed. Atlanta fans LOVED Sarkinsinceredawg said:Look at Matt Ryan's between 2016-2018. The bookend years are nearly identical but there was a sharp dropoff in 2017, the lone year Bush was his QB coach. There's probably other factors at play and some of the blame falls on Sark the OC as well but it is still an indictment on Bush.
2016: 4944 yards, 38 TDs, 7 INTs, 69.9% comp rate
2017: 4095 yards, 20 TDs, 12 INTs, 64.7% comp rate
2018: 4924 yards, 35 TDs, 7 INts, 69.4% comp rate
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RyanMa00.htm#all_passing







