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  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,693 Founders Club
    Its amazing to me that kids can sit in an American University in the most successful country on earth and pine for failed death cultures like the Soviets or Chi Coms or any of the rest

    Where is the critical thinking?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club

    Its amazing to me that kids can sit in an American University in the most successful country on earth and pine for failed death cultures like the Soviets or Chi Coms or any of the rest

    Where is the critical thinking?

    Historical amnesia...

    https://www.questia.com/magazine/1P3-143915471/the-danger-of-historical-amnesia-a-conversation-with
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 107,693 Founders Club
    I guess growing up ducking and covering had its benefits. As much as I was pissed off at America for the racism and Vietnam and all the rest I NEVER saw the Soviets as an alternative. Lot of leftists did and still do

    BRUCE COLE: There was a study done not too long ago that surveyed fifty of the elite colleges and universities. The students were asked questions taken from a high school curriculum, and the lack of historical knowledge was really appalling.

    Olympia High in the early 70's was an Ivy League education I guess
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter
    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Grow a brain. Nobody wants your shit. That's why you fail at capitalism. Once you figure out you need to produce something of worth to society, you'll be fine. Until then, keep reading your Marx, dream and starve.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,988 Standard Supporter

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    This. It's a harrowing shame it even needs to be said.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Grow a brain. Nobody wants your shit. That's why you fail at capitalism. Once you figure out you need to produce something of worth to society, you'll be fine. Until then, keep reading your Marx, dream and starve.
    I regret that I only have one chin to give to this post.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Grow a brain. Nobody wants your shit. That's why you fail at capitalism. Once you figure out you need to produce something of worth to society, you'll be fine. Until then, keep reading your Marx, dream and starve.

    But communism is really great. It’s just when people get involved it goes sideways.
  • USMChawkUSMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Grow a brain. Nobody wants your shit. That's why you fail at capitalism. Once you figure out you need to produce something of worth to society, you'll be fine. Until then, keep reading your Marx, dream and starve.
    I regret that I only have one chin to give to this post.
    I gave him one for you. You know, like socialism...
  • GrundleStiltzkinGrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,515 Standard Supporter

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
    Because we as nation have relatively few, in the long view, existential daily problems, we turn that energy to increasingly more minor issues, while at the same time treating them like daily mass starvation. It’s a paradox of prosperity. Maybe economis has a term for it.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
    Because we as nation have relatively few, in the long view, existential daily problems, we turn that energy to increasingly more minor issues, while at the same time treating them like daily mass starvation. It’s a paradox of prosperity. Maybe economis has a term for it.
    I’m hearing racism and hate crimes are rampant. Into the millions probably. It’s never been worse.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 34,460 Standard Supporter

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
    Because we as nation have relatively few, in the long view, existential daily problems, we turn that energy to increasingly more minor issues, while at the same time treating them like daily mass starvation. It’s a paradox of prosperity. Maybe economis has a term for it.
    I’m hearing racism and hate crimes are rampant. Into the millions probably. It’s never been worse.
    Lynchings are as common as house flies!
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
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    Sledog said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
    Because we as nation have relatively few, in the long view, existential daily problems, we turn that energy to increasingly more minor issues, while at the same time treating them like daily mass starvation. It’s a paradox of prosperity. Maybe economis has a term for it.
    I’m hearing racism and hate crimes are rampant. Into the millions probably. It’s never been worse.
    Lynchings are as common as house flies!
    It’s open season on blacks. Cops are shooting them in the back everyday for no reason other than just being out during the day.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited November 2019

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Gwad said:

    Communism bad. Capitalism good. Grunt Grunt.

    Capitalism killed just as many as communism. Derp derp.
    That is not easily quantified good try though. Stop blaming economic systems for the deeds of people with erroneous personal values. Its a bad look!!

    Why does every communist government have people with erroneous personal values?
    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend.
    What anti social behavior? Social Security? Welfare? Food stamps? A rising tide of wages and opportunity?

    Maybe stop being a loser who covets his neighbors possessions and go out a get a job.
    Yes things from social programs is the antithesis of anti-social behavior. Very basic bitch of you.
    You're playing a little loose with definitions in your juxtaposition. You're comparing state programs with social behavior.
    Race brought up social programs not me.
    Lightweight this is what you brought up

    If you think the anti-social behavior that is commonplace in a capitalist society has any long term sustainability you are wrong my friend


    If anti social behavior is so commonplace why does the capitalist society spend trillions on the programs. And look into private donations to causes. And Foundations started by capitalists that support the arts and humanities to this day.
    The anti-social comment was in reference to the personal values of the people that make up the society.
    Again then let's look at the personal values of turning in your neighbor or working at a Gulag or sentencing your neighbor to death. Or starving a few million peasants for the cause.

    As opposed to hard work and a free society and a social safety net

    Hey man communism is dangerous in an all the biscuits in one basket type of deal. If you wanted capitalism to have a little longer run maybe you shouldn't of kept the hard working dirt poor teachers next to the kids!!! Hope this helps!!!
    More gibberish
    Economic systems do bad things whaaa.

    That is actually the argument that you are making and you are too stupid to see it

    I'm talking about people and human nature. What system serves the most the best. Hint - its not communism
    I think that dirty socialist,Winston, had something good to say on this subject.
    I'm not dogmatic which is why I avoid most of the arguments on doctrine. I'm pragmatic. If a dash of social safety or socialism makes the capitalist stew better then do it. Go to far and we have a problem. Don't go far enough and we have a problem

    Just right and you have America

    Fuck yeah!
    I could not agree more. A certain amount of the welfare state is absolutely necessary to have a functioning capitalist democracy. Only classical liberal, nut jerbs like @MikeDamone think otherwise. Churchill's People's Budget helped ward off the Red menace in the UK, much like the New Deal did in the country. ed, rather than help lessen the occasional pain inflicted by capitalism.
    What do I think?
    I’m teasing. I honestly don’t know how much welfare state you are ok with.
    I think pretty much what you said at the end of your post. “ The problem we have now is that too many Americans expect government to meet their every need.”

    A safety net for the very few people who need it from time to time is good and is the right thing to do in the richest country in the history of life, but as all things with government, unintended consequences have fucked it up and has absolutely crushed whole segments of our society. I thinks it’s actually worse than people expecting the government to meet their needs. They couldn’t meet their needs of they had to. They have been rendered completely incapable of taking care of themselves. And it’s not just a small number.
    Because we as nation have relatively few, in the long view, existential daily problems, we turn that energy to increasingly more minor issues, while at the same time treating them like daily mass starvation. It’s a paradox of prosperity. Maybe economis has a term for it.
    Women get paid 72% of what men make. Can you believe that. And the president is mean. We need to remove him. He’s not nice. Did you hear amazon pays no taxes, and warren buffets secretary pays more taxes than the top 400 richest people in the world? How is that right?
  • YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 36,150 Founders Club

    I guess growing up ducking and covering had its benefits. As much as I was pissed off at America for the racism and Vietnam and all the rest I NEVER saw the Soviets as an alternative. Lot of leftists did and still do

    BRUCE COLE: There was a study done not too long ago that surveyed fifty of the elite colleges and universities. The students were asked questions taken from a high school curriculum, and the lack of historical knowledge was really appalling.

    Olympia High in the early 70's was an Ivy League education I guess

    Common sense was in the water I reckon.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I guess growing up ducking and covering had its benefits. As much as I was pissed off at America for the racism and Vietnam and all the rest I NEVER saw the Soviets as an alternative. Lot of leftists did and still do

    BRUCE COLE: There was a study done not too long ago that surveyed fifty of the elite colleges and universities. The students were asked questions taken from a high school curriculum, and the lack of historical knowledge was really appalling.

    Olympia High in the early 70's was an Ivy League education I guess

    OK Boomer!
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