I went on record 6 months ago and said the Dems would have to try to actively lose to not beat Trump, and here we are, almost at halftime, and they are doing everything they can to make that dream a reality. There is nobody helping to MAGA more than Nancy Pelosi, Adam Schifforbrains, and the DNC!
Thanks Democrats, for all you do for America. Accidentally.
Part of me says they are doing it on purpose. The more divisive unrest they can stir up, the better for their brand.
That's the bet.
If they have made only one smart calculation it's that no Democratic candidate is going to pull from Trump's base. Their target is (or should be) the middle.
Whether anyone likes hearing it or not, Trump has engendered loyalty in his base that is difficult for any other current politician to match. There's not much he could do to alienate that group ... certainly not this shit show.
I honestly don't think it has anything to do with the 2020 election.
I used to believe the whole left-wing/overthrow the government/radical stuff was tinfoil. It is becoming more and more apparent there is a very large segment of the left who want nothing more than total upheaval of the system. Trump is simply the current useful idiot who is emboldening them to hasten that strategy.
Which is somewhat where we agree -Trump's "base" isn't going anywhere. Let's lock it in at 35 to 40%. That's a BIG number to put on the scoreboard at kickoff.
But again, that's why I don't think the *real* leftists want to win in 2020. Another four years of disunity and chaos and fuck all is just another 4 years of OK Boomers dying off and cancel culture indoctrination on the nation's campuses.
Interesting take. I'd like to see you debate Steve Bannon on this point. Your take is very un-Trumpian.
The conservative populist (happy @YellowSnow ?) view of the world is that the establishment Republicans and the left want to keep things exactly as they are, which includes unfettered access to cheap labor vis a vis immigration, keep the administrative state/permanent political class entrenched in DC so that they can manipulate things as they wish, continue whoring out to Wall Street and managing the globe as the world's mall cop. It is they (conservative populism) that want to tear up the system with a blitzkrieg approach. Bannon often describes Trump as an incredibly imperfect instrument for this movement, but also as an "armor piercing shell". .
Reagan was hated just as much but delivered as well
Only whacko lefties hated Reagan. He never dipped below 50% approval and left office at 73%. I get that it's a different country now, but Trump will never touch these numbers.
The outcomes under Trump haven't been horrible thus far- i.e., no bumbling into war and good economy (albeit juiced by $1 trillion stimulus).
I was there. The hate was mainstream. SNL to the nightly news
The hate was real.
I agree, I was there too, the hate was real and it was mainstream, SNL to nightly news as you mention, but IMHO it was less unhinged than the hate Trump has had slung at him, and the trajectories are different.
The Great Communicator, was witty and self deprecating, very likable to any reasonable and rational person. He diffused the situation and made his haters look foolish. Reagan was truly generational. Incredibly effective and blessed with insane communication skills. Easily amongst the best presidents we've ever had. The growth and opportunities he spawned are still with us.
Trump has been effective in areas that really matter, particularly on economic and judicial appointment fronts. Only a dumbass would fail to see that. But he's also been acerbic and basal. Because of this, while he makes his haters look foolish, he also gives them an out. I'm with @YellowSnow in that I wish he'd carry himself more like the gipper. But there is no way in hell the other side offers anything of value. They're truly lost. There is no other choice at this point.
Reagan was hated just as much but delivered as well
Only whacko lefties hated Reagan. He never dipped below 50% approval and left office at 73%. I get that it's a different country now, but Trump will never touch these numbers.
The outcomes under Trump haven't been horrible thus far- i.e., no bumbling into war and good economy (albeit juiced by $1 trillion stimulus).
I was there. The hate was mainstream. SNL to the nightly news
The hate was real.
I agree, I was there too, the hate was real and it was mainstream, SNL to nightly news as you mention, but IMHO it was less unhinged than the hate Trump has had slung at him, and the trajectories are different.
The Great Communicator, was witty and self deprecating, very likable to any reasonable and rational person. He diffused the situation and made his haters look foolish. Reagan was truly generational. Incredibly effective and blessed with insane communication skills. Easily amongst the best presidents we've ever had. The growth and opportunities he spawned are still with us.
Trump has been effective in areas that really matter, particularly on economic and judicial appointment fronts. Only a dumbass would fail to see that. But he's also been acerbic and basal. Because of this, while he makes his haters look foolish, he also gives them an out. I'm with @YellowSnow in that I wish he'd carry himself more like the gipper. But there is no way in hell the other side offers anything of value. They're truly lost. There is no other choice at this point.
My favorite Trumptard is a trumptard reflecting deeply on his own idiocy. Really thought provoking.
being an older fart on this site - you guys seem very optimistic about future politics. I see it getting worse - it is like they have opened the gates and are letting the loons loose with the backing of the press.
maybe (and this is real scary) the deep state is what has kept this clown show on an even keel
being an older fart on this site - you guys seem very optimistic about future politics. I see it getting worse - it is like they have opened the gates and are letting the loons loose with the backing of the press.
maybe (and this is real scary) the deep state is what has kept this clown show on an even keel
Wrong. The 'deep state' is responsible for this clown show. It can only continue to exist by creating divisions to divide and conquer. It needs two warring sides hating each other's guts to continue on with business as usual. And business as usual never serves the interests of the American people.
being an older fart on this site - you guys seem very optimistic about future politics. I see it getting worse - it is like they have opened the gates and are letting the loons loose with the backing of the press.
maybe (and this is real scary) the deep state is what has kept this clown show on an even keel
Wrong. The 'deep state' is responsible for this clown show. It can only continue to exist by creating divisions to divide and conquer. It needs two warring sides hating each other's guts to continue on with business as usual. And business as usual never serves the interests of the American people.
did you miss the real scary qualifier - doesn't seem like it
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maybe (and this is real scary) the deep state is what has kept this clown show on an even keel