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What is with this point that requiring ID to vote is racial voter suppression?

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

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    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    So you would have no issue requiring people to prove who the say they are when they register to vote. Right? And then match the signature on the absentee ballot to the one on the registration, right?
    Tell me what problem that would solve.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    So you would have no issue requiring people to prove who the say they are when they register to vote. Right? And then match the signature on the absentee ballot to the one on the registration, right?
    Leftists are currently calling for a national database in order to verify people's age in order to deter under-age vaping and smoking but they want no such restrictions on voting.
    Link?
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
    Because truth and facts aren't lies in my world Hondo. Yes I know that in your world statements of facts are "lies."
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
    Because truth and facts aren't lies in my world Hondo. Yes I know that in your world statements of facts are "lies."
    So you choose to believe lies. Idiot.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
    Because truth and facts aren't lies in my world Hondo. Yes I know that in your world statements of facts are "lies."
    So you choose to believe lies. Idiot.
    Said the Kunt who claimed these statements were "lies"

    Yesterday Pete Buttigieg put out a list of 400 Black South Carolinians that endorse him/his plan.

    -A lot of the people are confused because they didn’t endorse.

    -42 percent of the list is white.

    -They used stock photos from Kenya.


    And who lied and claimed he didn't call a press release from the Buttplug campaign "facts."

    Bob hates facts directly from the campaign.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
    Because truth and facts aren't lies in my world Hondo. Yes I know that in your world statements of facts are "lies."
    So you choose to believe lies. Idiot.
    Said the Kunt who claimed these statements were "lies"

    Yesterday Pete Buttigieg put out a list of 400 Black South Carolinians that endorse him/his plan.

    -A lot of the people are confused because they didn’t endorse.

    -42 percent of the list is white.

    -They used stock photos from Kenya.


    And who lied and claimed he didn't call a press release from the Buttplug campaign "facts."

    Bob hates facts directly from the campaign.
    You are too dumb to see it.
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    SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 31,922
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    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    Also can ask why they support registering illegals to vote without proof of citizenship. Why they oppose cleaning up voter registration roles. Why they support felons voting. Vote often, vote dead, vote in multiple states and vote for no jails.

    Bob why don't you attack this post as mostly being lies?
    Because truth and facts aren't lies in my world Hondo. Yes I know that in your world statements of facts are "lies."
    So you choose to believe lies. Idiot.
    Said the Kunt who claimed these statements were "lies"

    Yesterday Pete Buttigieg put out a list of 400 Black South Carolinians that endorse him/his plan.

    -A lot of the people are confused because they didn’t endorse.

    -42 percent of the list is white.

    -They used stock photos from Kenya.


    And who lied and claimed he didn't call a press release from the Buttplug campaign "facts."

    Bob hates facts directly from the campaign.
    You are too dumb to see it.
    Another white flag.
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,780
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    TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,780
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    Next time in English, Please.
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,458
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    Except you'd at least need an ID to register to vote and have your absentee ballot sent to you. HTH
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    So you would have no issue requiring people to prove who the say they are when they register to vote. Right? And then match the signature on the absentee ballot to the one on the registration, right?
    Tell me what problem that would solve.
    Do you think a person should have proof of citizenship to register to vote, then have a signature on file? Or is that too tall of an order for people you think are inferior? Or should anyone of any age or citizenship be able to register because you there is no problem to be solved?
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    Video Krypton for the HondoBros.

    No comment from Hondo. I’m sure if he did it would be and ad hominem
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Video Krypton for the HondoBros.

    No comment from Hondo. I’m sure if he did it would be and ad hominem
    Tl,dw
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    Next time in English, Please.
    Known voter fraud is essentially zero. What's so hard for you to understand?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    So you would have no issue requiring people to prove who the say they are when they register to vote. Right? And then match the signature on the absentee ballot to the one on the registration, right?
    Tell me what problem that would solve.
    Do you think a person should have proof of citizenship to register to vote, then have a signature on file? Or is that too tall of an order for people you think are inferior? Or should anyone of any age or citizenship be able to register because you there is no problem to be solved?
    Why are you putting words in my mouth? I've just stated the fact that voter ID laws are Republican tactics to, in their mind, suppress Democratic votes.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 102,286
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    Next time in English, Please.
    Known voter fraud is essentially zero. What's so hard for you to understand?
    And yet when anyone looks they find it to be rampant

    Fuck off
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    MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,781
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    edited November 2019
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    So you would have no issue requiring people to prove who the say they are when they register to vote. Right? And then match the signature on the absentee ballot to the one on the registration, right?
    Tell me what problem that would solve.
    Do you think a person should have proof of citizenship to register to vote, then have a signature on file? Or is that too tall of an order for people you think are inferior? Or should anyone of any age or citizenship be able to register because you there is no problem to be solved?
    Why are you putting words in my mouth? I've just stated the fact that voter ID laws are Republican tactics to, in their mind, suppress Democratic votes.
    So no proof of citizenship needed to register. Got it.

    You stated something. It’s only a fact in your pea brain.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    How do these people without ID, who are adults, actually function in society? ( Drive cars, buy alcohol, rent tools, rent an apartment, get a job, get something notarized, travel outside the us, etc ). I seriously don't get why this argument keeps coming up.

    I am asking to understand why this is an important thing to allow in our society. No one has ever given me a reasonable argument but I know there are some really smart liberal people on this forum who can explain it to me.

    That much is obvious.
    Another great explanation, as always.
    Do you need me to spoonfeed the answer to you? Seriously, Google is your friend.
    Spoonfeed please. In your words.
    Only cause you asked nicely.

    You see, it's believed that the majority of people without ID vote Democrat. So, under the veil of trying to eradicate voter fraud, Republicans want to require voters to present ID to vote. The facts that known voter fraud is essentially zero. Most votes are done by absentee ballot now. And race is irrelevant. Don't matter to Republicans who just want to win elections.
    Next time in English, Please.
    Known voter fraud is essentially zero. What's so hard for you to understand?
    And yet when anyone looks they find it to be rampant

    Fuck off
    Link?
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    YellowSnowYellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 34,256
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    Why are people that don’t own land allowed to vote? That should be the bar.
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