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I'm hearing quid pro quo is out
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I am a known dumbass.salemcoog said:
Why are you bothering to engage it?Swaye said:
That is not a smoking gun Hondo. That is Mulvaney saying yes Trump wanted corruption looked at before we give you more money you will waste on crony capitalism. That is NOT "Trump specifically withheld aid to try to damage Joe (fuck Hunter) Biden's campaign." Again, not how it looks (to some), but what you can prove.2001400ex said:
Let’s revisit what he said during the briefing last Thursday. In response to a question from ABC’s Jon Karl about whether a “demand for an investigation into the Democrats was part of the reason that [Trump] ordered to withhold funding to Ukraine,” Mulvaney said this: “[T]he look-back to what happened in 2016 certainly was part of the thing that he was worried about in corruption with that nation. And that is absolutely appropriate.”RaceBannon said:
I have no idea what you are talking about.2001400ex said:
You answer my question and I'll answer yours. Deal?RaceBannon said:
When does the whistle blower testify?2001400ex said:
Ok. What about when they get Mulvaney on the stand? And he gets asked why he said Trump was withholding aid? Would that change your opinion?Swaye said:
I read the transcript. I watched the hearings yesterday. I don;t give a shit what Fox news or MSNBC or anyone else tries to tell me. I can read. I can listen to questions and answers at a hearing. Unless there is something super explosive Shifforbrains has been holding out there is no there there. None. My eyes and brain see a charade. Fuck Fox News.2001400ex said:
Swaye, we give each other shit and I think you are hilarious a lot of the time. But what you've said here isn't reflective of reality. I know you won't trust anything but your news source, so I'd try to actually watch it rather than your news source take on it. And it's the same on the other side, I'd imagine MSNBC is saying Trump hung himself and he's done with this testimony. Where your side is only saying the fourth hand testimony line of testimony.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
Everyone knows the whistle blower since he started all this. You don't find it odd that he isn't going to testify? What a fucking partisan hack
Feel free to show us the smoking gun that Mulvanny has
“To be clear, what you described is a quid pro quo,” Karl pointed out. But Mulvaney was unbothered: “we do that all the time with foreign policy,” he said, confirming Karl’s characterization. -
I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1. -
If terms of winning POTUS elections, yes, which is what I just said above. But it's not like he couldn't have gotten a tax cut and nominated conservative judges.salemcoog said:
Disagree. Romney is a prolapsed pussy.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1. -
Romney had his shot and got his ass kicked by Candy Crowley
Trump ran on revisiting all aid to foreign countries and to take another look at America funding NATO. Then he acted on it.
We had idiots in bow ties who never got elected butt hurt that they don't run the show anymore. That's a policy difference not an impeachable offense
Romney lacked the guts to do that. He's part of the problem
Trump threatening military aid got the Complex up in arms. It is as simple as that -
Disagree.YellowSnow said:
If terms of winning POTUS elections, yes, which is what I just said above. But it's not like he couldn't have gotten a tax cut and nominated conservative judges.salemcoog said:
Disagree. Romney is a prolapsed pussy.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
He never would have taken on China. He never would have told the world to fuck off about the hypocritical Paris accord. He never would have taken on NATO to pay more of
Their share. He never would have tackled our Southern border situation. And He would have escalated our presence in the ME like all the good Bush/Clinton indoctrinees. -
The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.Swaye said:
I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.
The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country. -
My answer wasn't for deranged TDS sufferers.2001400ex said:Why the meltdown? I just asked what his response would be if questioned in the impeachment inquiry.
If you don't want the answer don't ask the question -
Romney wouldn't have stood up to China. Or NATO. Or the Paris accords. Romney never met a challenge he wasn't perfectly cool with not facing. Do agree Romney is probably legit better on guns. Trump always has to be scared back into believing in the 2nd Amendment. One of my major issues with Trump quite frankly. That and his bone spurs.YellowSnow said:
The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.Swaye said:
I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.
The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country. -
Progress is happening on the wall despite the Establishment united to stop it. The illegals were never being rounded up. Stop the flow and deal with what we have. Trump offered a DACA deal two years agoYellowSnow said:
The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.Swaye said:
I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.
The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country.
He's not the dictator his opponents claim. Congress plays a role here.
Starting with Bubba through Obama there was lots of talk about illegals. Trump acted and became Public Enemy #1. It takes fortitude to stand up to the mob. None of the 16 GOP candidates had it. That's why Trump won
To complain about his tone while ignoring the last three years of lies and abuse by his opponents strikes me as a bit short sighted -
The world just won't work the way I want and I hate myself. FYFMFE.RaceBannon said:
Progress is happening on the wall despite the Establishment united to stop it. The illegals were never being rounded up. Stop the flow and deal with what we have. Trump offered a DACA deal two years agoYellowSnow said:
The illegals are still here. The wall isn't built. It's all symbolism over substance rhetoric thus far.Swaye said:
I don't think Romney would have been strong on the border or taken on the Chinese (to be fair I thought Trump was ham fisted there but it seems to be working). Romney is a giant pussy as well. But yeah, less baggage for sure. But also less HondoBros meltdowns. And these meltdowns are pretty glorious.YellowSnow said:
Trump got elected, so winners win and all that. Romney would have been a better President rather easily. You still would have gotten all of your policy preferences with out all the baggage.Swaye said:
I have never cared What Mitt Romney or Susan Collins do. Don't much care now either. Takes a supermajority to convict. If you think you are going to find 20 RINOs to vote with that loser Romney, welp, good luck.CirrhosisDawg said:
Hold on one cotton-picking minute there Slim. Can you show me 51 votes in the senate for a show trial? It’s more than plausible to expect Romney, Collins, Burr and Sasse to vote with the 47 dems for a REAL trial on the articles of impeachment.Swaye said:
Their next batch of "witnesses" will have gotten the info 7th hand. The led with their "best" witnesses they hand selected in secret meetings in a basement. I can only imagine how great this will be in the Senate when everyone, including GOP witnesses, get called. Face it. It's over. Find another new scandal to pin your hopes on. Russia, Collusion-gate, Obstruction-gate and now Ukraine were all duds. Just keep trying. And failing.2001400ex said:
You do know it's like 6 minutes into the first quarter. Right?Swaye said:
It's like if the early 80s coked up SNL cast tried to hold an impeachment proceeding. I can't wait until Schifforbrains has to admit he coordinated with the whistleblower before all this. Doesn't really matter though, because the validity of this whole thing has already unraveled. Now we are just waiting to see if the Dems are stupid enough to hold an impeachment vote based on hearsay and democrat operative schemes. It's over Dems. You lost. Again.Doogles said:There are so many low points for the Dems the past 4 years it's hard to choose, but this impeachment business might be the most embarrassing.
I knew Trumptards lose their shit over trump’s upcoming impeachment but I didn’t think it would such a meltdown after day 1.
I think Romney would have had a course correction on China too. Romney didn't want your guns either.
The meltdown are glorious in the Tug. It's not good for the country.
He's not the dictator his opponents claim. Congress plays a role here.
Starting with Bubba through Obama there was lots of talk about illegals. Trump acted and became Public Enemy #1. It takes fortitude to stand up to the mob. None of the 16 GOP candidates had it. That's why Trump won
To complain about his tone while ignoring the last three years of lies and abuse by his opponents strikes me as a bit short sighted
