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  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Houhusky said:

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    What does lack of player development at ILB and WR have to do with acknowledging that there are some specific young players at TE, RB, DB, OL, or DL that have talent?

    They suck if they don’t see the field and don’t produce. They ain’t shit until then
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Tequilla said:

    Cam Williams will be a good player and likely starting again come next year

    He is a kid that actually needs more time to get bigger, better knowledge of the game and tackling. He will be good
  • Houhusky
    Houhusky Member Posts: 5,537
    edited November 2019
    FirePete said:

    Houhusky said:

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    What does lack of player development at ILB and WR have to do with acknowledging that there are some specific young players at TE, RB, DB, OL, or DL that have talent?

    They suck if they don’t see the field and don’t produce. They ain’t shit until then
    Are you not watching the games?

    We have had more than a couple of young guys produce on the field... outlined above by both @DoogCourics and I


    The problem with the team isnt its youth or lack of youthful talent... Its the blame of the game-day coaching, the control/usage of the WR personnel, and the play of the upperclassmen at ILB.

    and it doesnt make someone a doog for understanding that.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148

    Houhusky said:

    I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.

    I appreciate the optimism @Houhusky & @DoogCourics . But you're mentioning a lot of guys who either haven't even played or only limited.

    If you are DQing guys who played last year doesn’t it really have anything to do with actual young talent (Tm) on the roster.

    They are still young and talented.

    You’ve basically only limited the pool to young players (Fr-So?), that didn’t start in previous years, that have played significant time this year. (Do puka or newton count?)

    Chopping off the top and bottom bounds of playing time is obviously going to yield a small number.

    How many guys fit in your starting parameters on the roster regardless of being talented? 5?
    I'm talking about 2019 equivalents of 2015 Gaskin, Gaines or McGary. First year players that have played well, if not consistently, then at least often enough to catch the eye. All I came up with first was McDuffie, but others rightly pointed out #MyDick. Puka has definitely flashed, but only flashes. Latu maybe too (honestly, what happened? Hurt?). Tuli/Taki are debatable. Mele is a good one.

    It’s hard to compare. We could have some really good young OL, but don’t know it yet. They were never starting this year. The starting OL was set last Spring with maybe the thought Bain or another young OL could push Wattenberg. Adams and McGary has to play early because there was nobody else.

    Gaskin was great, but he didn’t have an upperclassman like Ahmed in front of him. He had D-Wash and that was it.

    The young guys in 2015 had very few quality players in front of them.

    I think you’re underselling Tuli. Can’t say the same for Taki. He’s been just a guy out there, but Tuli has shown serious flashes. I think we are going be pretty damn stout on the DL very soon.
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823
    Houhusky said:

    FirePete said:

    Houhusky said:

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    What does lack of player development at ILB and WR have to do with acknowledging that there are some specific young players at TE, RB, DB, OL, or DL that have talent?

    They suck if they don’t see the field and don’t produce. They ain’t shit until then
    Are you not watching the games?

    We have had more than a couple of young guys produce on the field... outlined above by both @DoogCourics and I


    The problem with the team isnt its youth or lack of youthful talent... Its the blame of the game-day coaching, the control/usage of the WR personnel, and the play of the upperclassmen at ILB.

    and it doesnt make someone a doog for understanding that.
    That is not changing either
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,341 Founders Club
    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    This is the first year with atrocious ILB play. Gregory's issues seem to be less development as opposed to 'crooting- i.e., no depth at the position whatsoever. But fine @FireBob
  • FireCohen
    FireCohen Member Posts: 21,823

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    This is the first year with atrocious ILB play. Gregory's issues seem to be less development as opposed to 'crooting- i.e., no depth at the position whatsoever. But fine @FireBob
    @fireveryoneexceptkawasaki
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    The thing about game day coaching is that it can be finicky depending on the season. Pete has been especially bad this year. Stuff like that and losing close games seems to even out over time tho.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    edited November 2019

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    This is the first year with atrocious ILB play. Gregory's issues seem to be less development as opposed to 'crooting- i.e., no depth at the position whatsoever. But fine @FireBob
    I can accept Gregory being fired. I also don’t think he’s the problem and everything will be so much better if he’s gone.

    If we lost three starting caliber players at any position, we would look bad there. He has seemed to miss on a lot of guys tho. I’m not as big into star ratings as most, but he’s gotten some guys that haven’t been nearly as good as they were hyped of projected to be.

    We could have gotten Weaver and Bolton, but we decided not to and deems ourselves too good to recruit those guys. It had nothing to do with Gregory’s ability to recruit.

    I mean, there were posters that were talking about Sirmon being nearly Kaho’s equal. Kaho isn’t doing shit at Alabama, but I still doubt that they are close to equal.
  • RoadDawg55
    RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,148
    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    FirePete said:

    A lot of dooging going on here

    A Doog is a Husky that acts like a Cuog. We all agree that we suck and have no one to blame but ourselves.

    Thinking we have some talent in the Freshman and RS Freshman classes isn't Dooging.
    They suck until they don’t. They player development at WR and ILB has been atrocious. What makes you think that will change???
    This is the first year with atrocious ILB play. Gregory's issues seem to be less development as opposed to 'crooting- i.e., no depth at the position whatsoever. But fine @FireBob
    @fireveryoneexceptkawasaki
    I don’t want to fire Kwat either, but he’s been the coach of one of our weakest positions. Our Bucks and Sams have been bad. They are a little better this year, but nothing special.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    animate said:

    Vita and Gaines held that Alabama team to a standstill for much of the game. They covered up much of the weaknesses until the team was eventually Overwhelmed.

    People forget that.

    If we had depth plus the talent like that imagine ...

    Vita and Gaines plus rotating tuli and taki plus bandes and faatui etc ... Peterman get your shit together!

    Vita and, quietly, Gaines were generational D lineman for UW. You don’t have any one on your roster now that could sniff their jock.