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RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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President Trump and his allies in Congress pushed back against damaging revelations from diplomat Bill Taylor’s Tuesday testimony – in which the Ukraine envoy said the administration linked U.S. military aid to a call for politically related investigations in Kiev – saying the witness also acknowledged under questioning that Ukraine was initially in the dark on the aid holdup.

Rep. John Ratcliffe, R-Texas, asserted that this counters claims of a “quid pro quo.”

“At the end of the day, this was about quid pro quo and whether or not the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld and on that most important issue. Neither this witness or any other witness has provided any evidence that there was a quid pro quo, or any evidence that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld on July 25,” Ratcliffe said on “The Story” Tuesday night, claiming that absent testimony speaking to that point, “a quid pro quo is legally impossible.”

He was referring to the now-famous phone call on July 25 between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, during which Trump pressed for investigations into 2016 election interference and Biden family dealings in the country, specifically Hunter Biden's role on the board of natural gas firm Burisma Holdings.

A source familiar with the testimony confirmed to Fox News that during questioning on Capitol Hill Tuesday, Taylor said the Ukrainians did not know at the time of the call about the hold on U.S. military aid.

“The mainstream media reporting that he provided evidence of a quid pro quo involving military aid is false — I questioned him directly on that,” Ratcliffe said Tuesday. “I can’t tell you what he said … but I can tell you what he didn’t say — neither he nor any other witness has provided testimony that the Ukrainians were aware that military aid was being withheld.”

He added: “You can’t have a quid pro quo with no quo.”

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., said a fellow Republican lawmaker deconstructed a key part of the latest Trump impeachment inquiry witness testimony in Tuesday's closed-door session.

    "In 90 seconds, we had John Ratcliffe destroy [acting U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill] Taylor's whole argument," McCarthy said.

    The questioning by Ratcliffe, a Texas Republican and member of both the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees, was an important moment in the hearing, McCarthy claimed.

    "We can't really talk about it," he said.

    Ratcliffe appeared on Fox News after the testimony and said there were new details brought to light, but said nothing "worthy of impeachment."

    McCarthy added House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., is not allowing lawmakers to speak too specifically about the proceedings, in an interview Tuesday on "The Ingraham Angle."

    "Adam Schiff won't let us talk about what happened," he said regarding U.S. diplomat to Ukraine Bill Taylor's closed-door hearing on Capitol Hill. "There is no quid pro quo."

    The California lawmaker also claimed the impeachment inquiry process continues to be based largely on testimony from those without first-hand knowledge of the Trump-Ukraine situation.



    "The one thing that you find out in this process is all this information is just like that whistleblower... everything is second-, third-, and fourth-hand information," he said.

    He criticized Schiff for how he is conducting the proceedings, claiming the relevant Republican lawmakers are unable to view information from the hearings unless they are accompanied by the chairman's staff members.

    "What they are doing [is] they are changing every rule we ever had," he said.
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Cool story bro.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    Look at the shill right on time

    Hondo wouldn't know the truth if it curb stomped him to death
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    GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    GDS said:

    No one cares

    Agree

    But my spam is better than your spam
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,866
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    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,866
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    2001400ex said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
    Go ahead - explain it.

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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    2001400ex said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
    Tell us more oh ye of the complex mind
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    GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
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    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Biden is guilty of a quid pro quo to further US, EU, IMF and Ukrainian ant-corruption interests. Trump is guilty of a quid pro quo to further his own political interests...which in the mind of trumptards is the same FUCKING thing...
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,866
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    2001400ex said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
    Tell us more oh ye of the complex mind
    You just won't understand, @RaceBannon


    This is normal CD, H and Hondo. APAG gave up running that. Actually APAG just gave up.

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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
    Go ahead - explain it.

    We have discussed it many many times. But Bidens scenario, other countries wanted him removed. Biden is a cocky bastard and was bragging about what he did that he really didn't have much influence over.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    Its a lie to say other countries wanted the guy removed. We proved that last week. It was Obama and Biden

    Biden threatened to withhold US aid if the Ukes didn't fire the guy looking into his corrupt son

    Trump did not threaten to withhold aid but wants the Ukes and other countries to look into DNC corruption. Barr was in Italy and Australia offered to help

    Biden brags on tape that he did it. The Trump transcript shows he did not and the alleged target of the threat in the Ukraine denies it as well


    There you go big brains
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    GDS said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Biden is guilty of a quid pro quo to further US, EU, IMF and Ukrainian ant-corruption interests. Trump is guilty of a quid pro quo to further his own political interests...which in the mind of trumptards is the same FUCKING thing...
    Almost

    Just switch Biden and Trump and you have it

    Typical leftist. Accuse others of what you did
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    Its a lie to say other countries wanted the guy removed. We proved that last week. It was Obama and Biden

    Biden threatened to withhold US aid if the Ukes didn't fire the guy looking into his corrupt son

    Trump did not threaten to withhold aid but wants the Ukes and other countries to look into DNC corruption. Barr was in Italy and Australia offered to help

    Biden brags on tape that he did it. The Trump transcript shows he did not and the alleged target of the threat in the Ukraine denies it as well


    There you go big brains

    And Race goes full Fox news conspiracy theory.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,426
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    2001400ex said:

    Its a lie to say other countries wanted the guy removed. We proved that last week. It was Obama and Biden

    Biden threatened to withhold US aid if the Ukes didn't fire the guy looking into his corrupt son

    Trump did not threaten to withhold aid but wants the Ukes and other countries to look into DNC corruption. Barr was in Italy and Australia offered to help

    Biden brags on tape that he did it. The Trump transcript shows he did not and the alleged target of the threat in the Ukraine denies it as well


    There you go big brains

    And Race goes nailed it based on facts
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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,866
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    edited October 2019
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Only a simple mind thinks they are the same thing. It's almost like there are facts and circumstances that are different in each scenario.
    Go ahead - explain it.

    We have discussed it many many times. But Bidens scenario, other countries wanted him removed. Biden is a cocky bastard and was bragging about what he did that he really didn't have much influence over.
    Did Biden or did Biden not say that loan guarantees were withheld and indicated he was an authorized agent acting on the behalf of the President of the United State of America?

    FF to 0:34 if you need help.



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    PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 41,866
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    GDS said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Biden is guilty of a quid pro quo to further US, EU, IMF and Ukrainian ant-corruption interests. Trump is guilty of a quid pro quo to further his own political interests...which in the mind of trumptards is the same FUCKING thing...

    There are, at last count, 19 candidates running for the Democratic nomination for POTUS. NINETEEN!

    And you're saying Trump is smart enough to know that out of NINETEEN candidates, Biden is the one to take out?

    You guys are always saying how dumb Trump is. And now he is smart enough to handicap a 19 candidate field and zero in on Biden?!?!

    Crazy Joe Biden?

    Wow.



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    GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
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    Its a lie to say other countries wanted the guy removed. We proved that last week. It was Obama and Biden

    Biden threatened to withhold US aid if the Ukes didn't fire the guy looking into his corrupt son

    Trump did not threaten to withhold aid but wants the Ukes and other countries to look into DNC corruption. Barr was in Italy and Australia offered to help

    Biden brags on tape that he did it. The Trump transcript shows he did not and the alleged target of the threat in the Ukraine denies it as well


    There you go big brains

    Hence why there were contemporaneous quotes from IMF leaders pushing for his removal. The idea that the parliament voted overwhelmingly 4 months after Biden visited because of Biden is fucktarded even for massive Trump kneepaders like you Race. It couldn’t have been because of the hordes of diamonds and cash found in prosecutors homes from all the bribes they were taking or their failure to persecute corruption on a massive scale.
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    GDSGDS Member Posts: 1,470
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    GDS said:

    Of course it was quid pro quo. Life is quid pro quo. Don't let the progressives co opt that word too.

    Again, if Trump is 'quid pro quo' for demanding assistance in investigation, Biden is just as guilty of 'quid pro quo' on the other side demanding removal of the investigator.

    It's the same FUCKING thing. Just opposite sides of the same quid.

    Biden is guilty of a quid pro quo to further US, EU, IMF and Ukrainian ant-corruption interests. Trump is guilty of a quid pro quo to further his own political interests...which in the mind of trumptards is the same FUCKING thing...
    Almost

    Just switch Biden and Trump and you have it

    Typical leftist. Accuse others of what you did

    Lying again. Sad.
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