Cut the Pay and Benefits of Congress
Congress takes a full month off in August, and is about to start their 'Christmas Recess' in October. In October. Let that sink in. Meanwhile the typical American worker will get 1 to 2 weeks off for Christmas, if at all.
Save the taxpayer more money, and cut the pay and benefits of Congress to better reflect the actual time they put in, and value they contribute to society (which isn't very much at all).
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Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved.
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Agree. Members of Congress spend about 2/3rds of their time fundraising. Like Throbber mentioned in another thread get the money out of elections so these representatives can actually spend their time working and less time wooing the all mighty dollar as well.
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ThisPurpleThrobber said:Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved. -
You're conflating two issues, corruption and Congressional pay and benefits. The issue is saving the taxpayer money by reducing Congressional pay and benefits to something more aligned with what the average American gets paid and the benefits the average American receives upon retirement.PurpleThrobber said:Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved. -
You sound poor. There's zero chance I'd ever work for Congress for only $200k a year. The pay is fine. I agree with throbber other than I'd completely eliminate the lobbying system.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're conflating two issues, corruption and Congressional pay and benefits. The issue is saving the taxpayer money by reducing Congressional pay and benefits to something more aligned with what the average American gets paid and the benefits the average American receives upon retirement.PurpleThrobber said:Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved. -
You don't have a job. HTH.2001400ex said:
You sound poor. There's zero chance I'd ever work for Congress for only $200k a year. The pay is fine. I agree with throbber other than I'd completely eliminate the lobbying system.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're conflating two issues, corruption and Congressional pay and benefits. The issue is saving the taxpayer money by reducing Congressional pay and benefits to something more aligned with what the average American gets paid and the benefits the average American receives upon retirement.PurpleThrobber said:Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved. -
Average household median income was $63,000 in 2018. The average pension benefits for someone over 65 in the private sector was 10K.
Reduce Congressional pay to 63,000 a year. If you factor in all the time they take off, it is the same as paying someone 126K who does the same job but who actually works 5 days a week. Reduce their pension from 100K a year to 10K or less.
Serving 2 to 4 years in Congress should not get you a 100K yearly paycheck for life. Funded by the taxpayers. Fund your own damn retirement, or get another jerb. -
You are technically correct for once. Business owners are not employees.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You don't have a job. HTH.2001400ex said:
You sound poor. There's zero chance I'd ever work for Congress for only $200k a year. The pay is fine. I agree with throbber other than I'd completely eliminate the lobbying system.oregonblitzkrieg said:
You're conflating two issues, corruption and Congressional pay and benefits. The issue is saving the taxpayer money by reducing Congressional pay and benefits to something more aligned with what the average American gets paid and the benefits the average American receives upon retirement.PurpleThrobber said:Nah. Pay is fine. Nothing special.
Eliminate campaign contribution from unions, PACs and corporations and shit will clean up fast. Limit individual contributions to set amount.
Enact term limits. Two terms in Senate. Four in the House.
Limit employment with government contractors and company boards for five years after term ends unless previously on board prior to election.
Problems pretty well solved. -
I don’t want average people representing me. I want people properly incented to leave their career at whatever stage that may be.oregonblitzkrieg said:Average household median income was $63,000 in 2018. The average pension benefits for someone over 65 in the private sector was 10K.
Reduce Congressional pay to 63,000 a year. If you factor in all the time they take off, it is the same as paying someone 126K who does the same job but who actually works 5 days a week. Reduce their pension from 100K a year to 10K or less.
Serving 2 to 4 years in Congress should not get you a 100K yearly paycheck for life. Funded by the taxpayers. Fund your own damn retirement, or get another jerb.
I want exceptional people as representatives. People who have achieved some level of success. Exceptional people aren’t settling for what they could probably pull in the private sector.
You get shitfucks and unemployed at $63K.
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This is not factually correct.oregonblitzkrieg said:Average household median income was $63,000 in 2018. The average pension benefits for someone over 65 in the private sector was 10K.
Reduce Congressional pay to 63,000 a year. If you factor in all the time they take off, it is the same as paying someone 126K who does the same job but who actually works 5 days a week. Reduce their pension from 100K a year to 10K or less.
Serving 2 to 4 years in Congress should not get you a 100K yearly paycheck for life. Funded by the taxpayers. Fund your own damn retirement, or get another jerb.
A senator or representative’s retirement benefits are based on their plan, age and how long they served. No member of Congress is eligible for his or her pension unless he or she has served for at least five years. To collect their full pensions, congressmen must be at least 62, or at least 50 with 25 years of service.
By federal law, senators and representatives cannot earn their full salary in retirement. The most a congressman can earn after the leave office is 80% of their final salary. However, he or she would have had to have served 67 years to earn that top percentage.
https://smartasset.com/retirement/congress-retirement-plans
