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Donald Trump Promised To Eliminate The Deficit In 8 Years. So Far, He Has Increased It By 68%
insinceredawg
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Gotta spend money to make money?
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Saying that the nation's fiscal problems will not be solved with "any one step alone," President Obama this morning signed an executive order creating the National Commission on Fiscal Responsibility and Reform. Then as expected, he named former Sen. Alan Simpson (R-Wy) and former Clinton White House Chief of staff Erskine Bowles as the group's co-chairs.
Obama said the commission will be charged with making clear recommendations on how to balance the budget excluding interest payments by 2015 and ways to improve the long-term fiscal health of the nation. That, the administration said, would stabilize the debt-to-GDP ratio at an acceptable level once the economy recovers. The commission will be asked to address changes to the growth of entitlement programs, as well as the gap between projected revenues and expenditures over the long-term. Any recommendations would have to receive approval by 14 of 18 commission members, guaranteeing bipartisan support. The panel must issue its recommendations by Dec. 1. -
but but but Obama!
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Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
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But, but, but fucking hypocrite.insinceredawg said:but but but Obama!
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NOC including the OP
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First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802 -
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
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So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt. -
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
Liar. I didn't post that tweet. And even if I did, this is just another example of you using semantics to deflect. Trump still owns the property in Istanbul as well as many others globally. But keep on running your Kunt act to defend dear leader. You're not fooling anyone besides the cultists on this board.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son?
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Yeah, I didn't post it. Liar.SFGbob said:insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
You know what I think...
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And I'm playing a semantics game? You re-posted it when you responded to it and you certainly weren't disagreeing with it, in fact you're so fucking stupid you thought it was some kind of defense of Hunter Biden.insinceredawg said:
Yeah, I didn't post it. Liar.SFGbob said:insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
LOL you really got me now! You are a sad and pathetic little man.SFGbob said:
And I'm playing a semantics game? You re-posted it when you responded to it and you certainly weren't disagreeing with it, in fact you're so fucking stupid you thought it was some kind of defense of Hunter Biden.insinceredawg said:
Yeah, I didn't post it. Liar.SFGbob said:insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
Gay Bob Logic
Trump owns dozens of properties worldwide and makes millions off them during his presidency but it's not a conflict of interest because a random tweet from Ivanka was from 2012. Nothing to see here!
Biden's son makes a meager 50k a month salary from a Ukraine company and we must investigate!
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There's no "getting" a dumbfuck like you IC. You're a shameless liar and you're a dumbfuck who thought a Tweet from 2012 was a defense of what Hunter Biden did in 2014. You'll never admit, you lack the integrity to admit such things. You're a typical leftist. And this is what leftists do, they lie.insinceredawg said:
LOL you really got me now! You are a sad and pathetic little man.SFGbob said:
And I'm playing a semantics game? You re-posted it when you responded to it and you certainly weren't disagreeing with it, in fact you're so fucking stupid you thought it was some kind of defense of Hunter Biden.insinceredawg said:
Yeah, I didn't post it. Liar.SFGbob said:insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
lol integrity? You won't even admit you fell for Pizzagate and were demanding an investigation into it.
But congrats on hijacking this thread to deflect from the main topic about your dear leader being a liar. Just like you. -
The GOP has been lip service to small government since before any of our lifetimes(except Race of course). Reagan for all his bluster still had "Reaganomics". Nixon oversaw a vast increase in federal environmental oversight(which I agree with but still).Swaye said:
First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802
At no point was Trump a small government guy. He's more like a 90's Democrat which with the continuing progressive-ation of the current DNC has made him a Republican. The only thing that I will give him is that he's at least got a lot of "common sense" takes on government as an outsider.
That's the trouble with being in the small government camp in a nutshell. The choice in the last 4 decades or more has been between Statism and Federalism at best. -
insinceredawg said:
Gay Bob Logic
Trump owns dozens of properties worldwide and makes millions off them during his presidency but it's not a conflict of interest because a random tweet from Ivanka was from 2012. Nothing to see here!
Kunt logic, is there anything can't do. Amazing the arguments you can craft when you're willing to lie your ass off.
I never said the Tweet showed there was no conflict of interest during his Presidency. I said the fact that you posted a Tweet from 2012 as some sort of defense of what Hunter Biden did in 2014 show you're a fucking dipshit. The fact that you continue to misrepresent what I said, and deny that you had your head up your ass confirms all that.
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The more you repeat a lie doesn't make it true. I know your dear leader and your party utilize that strategy to fool the public but it's not going to work with me. Keep on believing your bullshit if it makes you feel better about being a dumbfuck.SFGbob said:insinceredawg said:Gay Bob Logic
Trump owns dozens of properties worldwide and makes millions off them during his presidency but it's not a conflict of interest because a random tweet from Ivanka was from 2012. Nothing to see here!
Kunt logic, is there anything can't do. Amazing the arguments you can craft when you're willing to lie your ass off.
I never said the Tweet showed there was no conflict of interest during his Presidency. I said the fact that you posted a Tweet from 2012 as some sort of defense of what Hunter Biden did in 2014 show you're a fucking dipshit. The fact that you continue to misrepresent what I said, and deny that you had your head up your ass confirms all that. -
Take a walk and get some perspective. Don't get me wrong, I'd like a balanced budget, too, but the total Debt level is just one measurement of the challenge. The interest rate on the debt matters as well.
https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/07/24/facts-about-the-national-debt/
"Net interest payments on the debt are estimated to total $393.5 billion this fiscal year, or 8.7% of all federal outlays. (The government projects it will pay out a total of $593.1 billion in interest in fiscal 2019, which ends Sept. 30, but that includes interest credited to Social Security and other government trust funds.) By comparison, debt service was more than 15% of federal outlays in the mid-1990s. The share has fallen partly because lower rates have held down interest payments, but also because outlays have risen substantially, up about 29% over the past decade."
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The GOP is the original big spender party. They have never been budget hawks for any extended period of time.Swaye said:
First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802 -
Is there no lie too big for you to tell?HHusky said:
The GOP is the original big spender party. They have never been budget hawks for any extended period of time.Swaye said:
First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802
I'm so upset by GOP spending that I'm going to vote for folks who want to add 30-40 trillion to the budget
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No, I don’t believe there is.RaceBannon said:
Is there no lie too big for you to tell?HHusky said:
The GOP is the original big spender party. They have never been budget hawks for any extended period of time.Swaye said:
First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802 -
Blob posts a picture to prove he lied. lolSFGbob said:insinceredawg said:
Liar. I didn't post that tweet.SFGbob said:
Who do you pretend the strawman is when you fuck it in the ass IC?insinceredawg said:
So you do think he is a liar yet you still take his word every single time. Does that make you gullible or just stupid?SFGbob said:
For the same reason Obama said he was going to cut the deficit. Are you under some belief that I don't think Trump is a liar? Now, speaking of liars, tell me how the emoluments clause applied to Ivanka in 2012?insinceredawg said:Tell me Gay Bob, why did your President say he was going to eliminate the deficit but instead it's gone up during his tenure? Did he lie to us?
Tell me, does the emoluments clause apply to Trump and his family in 2017 and beyond? Does Trump still own a property in Istanbul? Go on and hold onto the 2012 tweet as if he's had no international business deals since. Bitchass partisan Kunt.
Why did you post the Tweet from 2012 dumbfuck and try to use it to run interference for Biden and his son? -
Exactly. Leftards lie and love to be lied to.
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fixed it for yaWestlinnDuck said:Exactly. Leftards lie and love to be lied to. ™
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We’ve covered this. Your? Party hasn’t been fiscally conservative since 1970.Swaye said:
First upvote I have ever given you in the Tug. I am disgusted that my? party, the once proud party of fiscal conservatism is now functionally no different than the Dems. They just all want to spend money on different shit. Not just Trump either. 2/3rds of the idiots in Congress in the GOP, Bush 2, etc. Totally sold out on the principle of smaller government. It's a fucking joke.insinceredawg said:Promises made, promises kept!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-deficit-debt-cbo-data-obama-1463802
