Explosive plays

Mad_Son

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

RoadDawg55

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

Houhusky

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

That play could work perfectly and Fuller would figure out how to get tackled after a 3 yard gain

spuden

It went down as a fumble by Bryant, but Fuller got both hands on the ball and smashed it against his leg causing him to lose the ball. The pitch was behind him, and not an easy play to make, but he’s made more difficult catches. It was disappointing execution, but agree with everyone here. A deep play action with a screen outlet in the event of a blitz not picked up would have been a more “aggressive” and sound play call. The maddening thing is even casual football watchers could see this was a dumb play. This is something you run with Browning because he couldn’t throw deep without a crow-hop, Eason can throw it out of the stadium. Hopefully Pete and Hamdan make the adjustment.

haie

After 5.5 years of Pete I'm numb to this shit.

CFetters_Nacho_Lover

I thought this would have more to do with Salvon or @PurpleBaze

Baseman

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

Disagree.

The high safety, Poala-Mao keyed run and committed towards the right side of the field. The corner, Issac-Stuart went with Chin (El oh El,). Ahmed ran a wheel route up the opposite sideline.

Trojan corner, Johnson chipped Chin and initially started towards Ahmed but froze after reading reverse because he had contain responsibility. Defenders on the opposite side of the play are taught to flow towards the play side of the field if they see the butts of the OL moving away from them but stay home and contain if they see the OL's helmets coming towards them.

At the exchange point, Chin had two steps on Issac Stuart. Ahmed, left uncovered, was wide open up the sideline

I generally frown on trickery. Opposing defenses, however spend an inordinate amount of practice time preparing for trick plays, distracting their normal planning for their next opponent. The opposing offensive scout team probably runs that same trick play 5-6 times during the week. Opposing defenders must account for the possibility of the trick play, slowing down their initial reaction time, even for a split second.

There's your Hot Take for the week

Mad_Son

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

I generally frown on trickery. Opposing defenses, however spend an inordinate amount of practice time preparing for trick plays, distracting their normal planning for their next opponent. The opposing offensive scout team probably runs that same trick play 5-6 times during the week. Opposing defenders must account for the possibility of the trick play, slowing down their initial reaction time, even for a split second.

There's your Hot Take for the week

Pete believes that wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we spend an inordinate amount of time on these plays too.

Houhusky

Mad_Son said:

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

I generally frown on trickery. Opposing defenses, however spend an inordinate amount of practice time preparing for trick plays, distracting their normal planning for their next opponent. The opposing offensive scout team probably runs that same trick play 5-6 times during the week. Opposing defenders must account for the possibility of the trick play, slowing down their initial reaction time, even for a split second.

There's your Hot Take for the week

Pete believes that wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we spend an inordinate amount of time on these plays too.

Pete is wasting hours figuring out ways to make opposing coaches waste minutes.

insinceredawg

Houhusky said:

Mad_Son said:

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

I generally frown on trickery. Opposing defenses, however spend an inordinate amount of practice time preparing for trick plays, distracting their normal planning for their next opponent. The opposing offensive scout team probably runs that same trick play 5-6 times during the week. Opposing defenders must account for the possibility of the trick play, slowing down their initial reaction time, even for a split second.

There's your Hot Take for the week

Pete believes that wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we spend an inordinate amount of time on these plays too.

Pete is wasting hours figuring out ways to make opposing coaches waste minutes.

4-D Chess

Baseman

Houhusky said:

Mad_Son said:

Baseman said:

RoadDawg55 said:

Mad_Son said:

Pete loves having explosive plays and hates giving up expensive plays due to their associated morale swings per recent press conferences. I believe this is why Pete gets so conservative on offense when we get marginal leads - he thinks an interception will cause the wheels to fall off and the entire team will collapse, allowing our opponents to get back in the game. (Does he think that we have a mentally weak team that wilts at the first sign of adversity, even when they are in a low pressure situation?)

Pete has a fundamental misunderstanding about college football which Sark had here as well. They believe you manufacture explosive plays which is not true. Explosive plays are probabilistic in nature. You put your athletes against favorable defensive matchups and eventually your players makes a play. Pete tries to pull out highly complicated maneuvers to generate one on one or running free situations when this can be accomplished with standard route concepts with a lot fewer moving pieces. Pete in particular needs to get away from his triple revese lutz wr pass plays because everyone expects it from him.

There are a lot lower risk options than this, like sending Puka on a deep route.



We actually had an explosive play on a run when we gave the ball to one of our best athletes, Ahmed, and gave him a block. We can generate more explosive plays by giving the ball to more talented players and letting them do what they do best.

That play wouldn’t have gotten big yardage even if the pitch was smooth. USC has a couple of guys that stayed home. Dumb call at the totally wrong time. Fuller isn’t exactly John Ross with the ball in his hands either.

I generally frown on trickery. Opposing defenses, however spend an inordinate amount of practice time preparing for trick plays, distracting their normal planning for their next opponent. The opposing offensive scout team probably runs that same trick play 5-6 times during the week. Opposing defenders must account for the possibility of the trick play, slowing down their initial reaction time, even for a split second.

There's your Hot Take for the week

Pete believes that wholeheartedly. Unfortunately we spend an inordinate amount of time on these plays too.

Pete is wasting hours figuring out ways to make opposing coaches waste minutes.

Pete's had that reverse pass in his playbook for years, and used it successfully several times over the past few years, including last years Apple Cup, opening up a two touchdown lead on the Coog. I like the play and had the SC DL run a pinch, it probably ends in a touchdown or big gain for us.

Preparing for a reverse and reverse pass requires more than a few minutes but not as much as the hours and days spent spewing the same drivel in Tug

Kingdome_Urinals

Sometimes your explosives turn into explosive diarrhea. But that's part of the process.

I actually don't mind the call. Fuck it. We've had big momentum swinging plays off of those things, think at USC in 2015, against PSU in the Fiesta.

Also, that fumble. Intentional. Part of a next level pitch-fumble-fake trickeration that Oregon will have to spend a week practicing against.

RoadDawg55

spuden said:

It went down as a fumble by Bryant, but Fuller got both hands on the ball and smashed it against his leg causing him to lose the ball. The pitch was behind him, and not an easy play to make, but he’s made more difficult catches. It was disappointing execution, but agree with everyone here. A deep play action with a screen outlet in the event of a blitz not picked up would have been a more “aggressive” and sound play call. The maddening thing is even casual football watchers could see this was a dumb play. This is something you run with Browning because he couldn’t throw deep without a crow-hop, Eason can throw it out of the stadium. Hopefully Pete and Hamdan make the adjustment.

I don’t blame Bryant or Fuller, but Bryant probably would deserve more for not eating it and taking the losses. Fuck the coaches for that one. Don’t spout some execution bullshit either.

Mad_Son

Kingdome_Urinals said:

Sometimes your explosives turn into explosive diarrhea. But that's part of the process.

I actually don't mind the call. Fuck it. We've had big momentum swinging plays off of those things, think at USC in 2015, against PSU in the Fiesta.

Also, that fumble. Intentional. Part of a next level pitch-fumble-fake trickeration that Oregon will have to spend a week practicing against.

Maybe subtext baked into my post is when hamdan and pete were talking about being aggressive. I don't think that there shouldn't be plays like this in their back pocket but right now their aggression is a bit of a one trick pony. They can fundamentally have an offense that takes more shots without having this same chance of going wrong, has more check downs, etc.