I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
You asked what regulations added to the cost of housing in California. I answered. You stuck your head up your ass and claimed I didn't answer your question. I then answered your question again and gave you an additional example of something that adds to the cost of new houses being built in California. You then respond with the money people will save on energy and the tax credits for solar panels, neither of which do anything to lower the cost of new housing construction.
Go fuck yourself Hondo, you're not looking for an answer you're looking for a performance space for you kunt act.
California regulates the shit out of new housing construction and the entire state has very restrictive land use laws. None of this has anything to do with the "free market" which is what you claimed is responsible for the high cost of housing in the state.
No I researched the answer before I asked you the question. And it's supply and demand as the biggest factor for high housing. I've already answered why. That being said, yes those regulations add to the cost as well. But in your fucked up view it's only because of Liberals. Totally couldn't be the lack of land.
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
You asked what regulations added to the cost of housing in California. I answered. You stuck your head up your ass and claimed I didn't answer your question. I then answered your question again and gave you an additional example of something that adds to the cost of new houses being built in California. You then respond with the money people will save on energy and the tax credits for solar panels, neither of which do anything to lower the cost of new housing construction.
Go fuck yourself Hondo, you're not looking for an answer you're looking for a performance space for you kunt act.
California regulates the shit out of new housing construction and the entire state has very restrictive land use laws. None of this has anything to do with the "free market" which is what you claimed is responsible for the high cost of housing in the state.
No I researched the answer before I asked you the question. And it's supply and demand as the biggest factor for high housing. I've already answered why. That being said, yes those regulations add to the cost as well. But in your fucked up view it's only because of Liberals. Totally couldn't be the lack of land.
That being said, yes those regulations add to the cost as well.
No further questions.
And go fuck yourself, I never said it's only because of liberals. That's the standard Hondo strawman ass fuck because you're both too stupid and too fucking dishonest to address what I actually say.
Even in areas of the state where land is readily available housing construction costs and state regulations making the cost of housing higher than in other states. Free market!!!!
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
You asked what regulations added to the cost of housing in California. I answered. You stuck your head up your ass and claimed I didn't answer your question. I then answered your question again and gave you an additional example of something that adds to the cost of new houses being built in California. You then respond with the money people will save on energy and the tax credits for solar panels, neither of which do anything to lower the cost of new housing construction.
Go fuck yourself Hondo, you're not looking for an answer you're looking for a performance space for you kunt act.
California regulates the shit out of new housing construction and the entire state has very restrictive land use laws. None of this has anything to do with the "free market" which is what you claimed is responsible for the high cost of housing in the state.
No I researched the answer before I asked you the question. And it's supply and demand as the biggest factor for high housing. I've already answered why. That being said, yes those regulations add to the cost as well. But in your fucked up view it's only because of Liberals. Totally couldn't be the lack of land.
Of course you looked up building regulations, but your dumb ass didn’t look at zoning, which causes “lack of land” dumb shit. Also, the leftists in power aren’t liberals.
Drivers of Construction Costs in San Francisco Construction costs average $330 per square foot in San Francisco, the second highest in the world. The first study found that local stakeholders believe quickly rising costs are contributing directly to the affordability crisis.
Finding ways to lower costs is especially critical for affordable housing. “Every dollar saved translates into a subsidy for additional units,” the report concludes. The research highlights a dramatic cost-per-unit increase within a typical 100-unit affordable project in San Francisco, from $265,000 in 2000 to $425,000 in 2017.
According to the study, four main categories drive rising construction costs in San Francisco:
Lengthy and complex city processes Building codes and design requirements Workforce and procurement rules Environmental regulations While not all factors are within the city’s control, local decisions do drive many rising costs.
The panelists noted that the most significant factor driving up construction costs is the length of time it takes for a project to get through the city permitting and development processes.
Development Fees The second study, focused on seven California cities, identified development fees as a significant factor driving up the cost of new housing. Fees ranged from 6 to 18 percent of the home price. The panelists noted that the fees are often set without oversight or coordination between city departments. In Fremont, where fees are the highest, they totaled nearly $160,000 on the $850,000 median value of a single-family home.
Supply and demand and the free market at work, right Hondo you fucking lying piece of crap.
I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.
Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!
Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.
That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.
And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!
Exactly what state regulations are those?
Try reading you fucking moron.
Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?
And I already said:
regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016
And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.
And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.
So why does the government need to make it a law?
I agree with you. I don't think the government should mandate solar on all homes. That being said, the law isn't in place yet and there's various exceptions.
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No further questions.
And go fuck yourself, I never said it's only because of liberals. That's the standard Hondo strawman ass fuck because you're both too stupid and too fucking dishonest to address what I actually say.
Even in areas of the state where land is readily available housing construction costs and state regulations making the cost of housing higher than in other states. Free market!!!!
https://www.spur.org/news/2018-05-09/it-all-adds-growing-costs-prevent-new-housing-california
Construction costs average $330 per square foot in San Francisco, the second highest in the world. The first study found that local stakeholders believe quickly rising costs are contributing directly to the affordability crisis.
Finding ways to lower costs is especially critical for affordable housing. “Every dollar saved translates into a subsidy for additional units,” the report concludes. The research highlights a dramatic cost-per-unit increase within a typical 100-unit affordable project in San Francisco, from $265,000 in 2000 to $425,000 in 2017.
According to the study, four main categories drive rising construction costs in San Francisco:
Lengthy and complex city processes
Building codes and design requirements
Workforce and procurement rules
Environmental regulations
While not all factors are within the city’s control, local decisions do drive many rising costs.
The panelists noted that the most significant factor driving up construction costs is the length of time it takes for a project to get through the city permitting and development processes.
Free Market man!!!!
The second study, focused on seven California cities, identified development fees as a significant factor driving up the cost of new housing. Fees ranged from 6 to 18 percent of the home price. The panelists noted that the fees are often set without oversight or coordination between city departments. In Fremont, where fees are the highest, they totaled nearly $160,000 on the $850,000 median value of a single-family home.
Supply and demand and the free market at work, right Hondo you fucking lying piece of crap.