According to El Monte half of all California residents hate themselves

SFGbob

Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-27/who-wants-to-leave-california-berkeley-igs-poll

CirrhosisDawg

SFGbob said:

Just over half of California’s registered voters have considered leaving the state, with soaring housing costs cited as the most common reason for wanting to move, according to a new poll.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-09-27/who-wants-to-leave-california-berkeley-igs-poll

You’ve already declared your intent to move working-class-GayBob.

Working-class-GayBob you are a fucking liar and coward.

2001400ex

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

MikeDamone

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

You’rt a fucking idiot.

2001400ex

MikeDamone said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

You’rt a fucking idiot.

You'rt probably right but I don't see what that has to do with housing prices in California.

Sledog

2001400ex said:

MikeDamone said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

You’rt a fucking idiot.

You'rt probably right but I don't see what that has to do with housing prices in California.

Probably?

As close as an idiot can get to an answer!

Swaye

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

SFGbob

Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.

Swaye

SFGbob said:

Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.

Supply and demand!!1!!11!!!!111!!!111ELEVEN!1!!!!11!!

SFGbob

Swaye said:

SFGbob said:

Hondo can't see why restrictive land use laws and regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016 could possibly add to the cost of housing.

Supply and demand!!1!!11!!!!111!!!111ELEVEN!1!!!!11!!

It's the free market man!!!

2001400ex

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

CirrhosisDawg

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Oh the fucking irony. Lol!

SFGbob

CirrhosisDawg said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Oh the fucking irony. Lol!

At this point El Monte is really putting out a cry for help. What didn't I read El Monte?

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?

And I already said:

regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016

And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?

And I already said:

regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016

And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.

And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.

Sledog

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?

And I already said:

regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016

And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.

And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.

They make panels for trailers? So when you Make this move you talked about will you drive through Earl Shieb for some new paint on the mobile mansion?

SFGbob

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

2001400ex said:

Swaye said:

2001400ex said:

I feel it's free market principals of supply and demand causing high housing prices.

Supply and demand is of course part of it, but it is much more nuanced than that. Proposition 13 has pushed cities toward developing land for hotels and shopping vice housing and the staggeringly difficult regulatory environment which exists in CA, making building exceedingly difficult when compared to other regions. I don't even live there and I know this. But supply and demand!

Yeah I agree regulations make it harder. I have a buddy in Washington that bought 5 acres in 02. Took him 5 years to get zoned for high density, then was too late or course. I've tried to develop with him a few times and we still couldn't get it to pencil even with new markets tax credits. The city council there is anti growth (actually a conservative council in a conservative town built on military which is weird). It took too much cash too build the way the city wanted with the infrastructure they required. He sold this year to a large outfit that can outlay the upfront costs.

That being said, the cities where it's expensive there's really no more building that can happen. Look at San Francisco, San Diego, LA. Those places are densely populated. That's why there's a shit ton of building going on in Riverside, Ontario, etc. Even far out like San Jacinto is growing huge.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-08-22/southern-california-housing-growth

And even out in those areas the cost of construction is higher than other parts of the country because of the state regulations. Free Market!!!

Exactly what state regulations are those?

Try reading you fucking moron.

Did you read your own quote? You blamed it on state regulations so I asked which one. Da fuq is wrong with you?

And I already said:

regulations that require new homes being built today to meet energy and standards that are 50% more stringent than they were in 2016

And if you don't like that one you could go with the requirement that all new homes have solar panels. But you're not really looking for information Hondo you're just performing a Kunt act.

And don't you think people will save money with solar and better energy requirements? And I feel like there's tax credits from solar panels. I'm actually thinking of adding some to my house when they redo my roof.

You asked what regulations added to the cost of housing in California. I answered. You stuck your head up your ass and claimed I didn't answer your question. I then answered your question again and gave you an additional example of something that adds to the cost of new houses being built in California. You then respond with the money people will save on energy and the tax credits for solar panels, neither of which do anything to lower the cost of new housing construction.

Go fuck yourself Hondo, you're not looking for an answer you're looking for a performance space for you kunt act.

California regulates the shit out of new housing construction and the entire state has very restrictive land use laws. None of this has anything to do with the "free market" which is what you claimed is responsible for the high cost of housing in the state.