Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
OK so we need every democrat congress and senate critter under oath first and we'll work up the list to president.
There has been no crime there should be no trial. HTH
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
And seriously, who the fuck are you to complain about lying Hondo? Not a day goes by here where you don't lie your ass off. And spare me the bullshit about holding you to a higher standard than I do Trump. Yes, Trump lies all the fucking time but then again so do you. Neither one of us can do anything about Trump's lies, you have complete control over your own and yet you lie your ass off her nearly every day.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Because you actually attempted to provide an explanation, I won't beat on you right now.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Because you actually attempted to provide an explanation, I won't beat on you right now.
I'm cool like dat.
I laugh at the drivel from the others in response lol.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
OK so we need every democrat congress and senate critter under oath first and we'll work up the list to president.
There has been no crime there should be no trial. HTH
Get rid of all of them. I'm fine with that. But you gotta include Republicans too
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
I didn't say I want to get him under oath idiot. I said that's the Democrats plan. You seriously are a fucking idiot and can't read for shit. I didn't read the rest of your post.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Of all the trumptrash on the tug, I thought you would be the last person who would play dumb. I was wrong. Sad.
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.
Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
That's what you celebrated during the Benghazi hearings. Why is it all of the sudden a problem now?
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.
Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
That's what you celebrated during the Benghazi hearings. Why is it all of the sudden a problem now?
Do you think you'll ever get over the butthurt about your girlfriend fucking up and losing an embassy?
Just to clarify pawz threw a meltdown after I rightly accused the idiot president of treason on this trash bored -- but it's being said on the floor of the House! Now he seems to be changing the subject.
Same question as of typhus boy that was never answered; what’s the high crime?
Exposing a corrupt former VP is attempting to undermine the sovereignty or government of the United States??? Explain that to me.
I'd try, but your mind is so badly warped from far right lunatic fringe foxnews stuff it would be useless
No. You won’t try at all. Because you have no answer other than the tired ‘you just won’t understand’ angle.
Try me. Go ahead and explain it.
Last time I watched Fox News was about 2001. I watch CNBC and read. TV news is horrific.
The problem is you can always make an argument. The nazis had arguments to back up what they did, and they believed they were doing the right thing. I'm not calling you a nazi and not twisting, just making an analogy. There is no point in making arguments with you since you see the world in a way that is so irrationally biased, it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I post here just to see what insane arguments the lunatic far right has. It's more like an observation. I'm not going to argue with crazy.
Who’s arguing?
Asking for an explanation isn’t an argument
Unless you don’t or can’t make an explanation based on the facts.
I meant I'd have to construct an argument. I'd write something, and you'd cite some lunatic far right conspiracy theory about Biden. Then I'd have to fight through a set of disingenuous arguments, false dichotomies, red herrings, ad hominem fallacies, not to mention the standby of all Trumpers, the fallacy of ridicule (you attempt to show you are right by laughing)... so it's a waste of time.
So you don’t have an explanation. But it’s ok for you to repeatedly post ‘you couldn’t possibly understand.’
Which is true because it is impossible to gain understanding on a black hole of intellectual expression and logic.
At least be honest about it
By "explanation" you are demanding that I defend my position with some kind of cogent argument. But I just told you why it's a waste of time. I don't come here to try to alter your opinions. It's a waste of time for all the reasons I stated. If you actually wanted to have a civil argument -- here? How?
For some reason, throbber has adopted GayBob’s schtick.
It's not schtick and I'm not bob. Nor want to be.
Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
Ok you want a rational discussion... Here goes.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
Just like that, the #1 goal of the grand hoax comes out.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Great. You and I both agree. The whole point of the Russia thing and now this is to get Trump under oath. I feel I've stated that since day one.
Which means there is actually nothing wrong with the president.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
Explain how that means there is nothing wrong with Trump? Lying under oath is a big deal. And Trump lies on a daily basis. Which lying on a daily basis, while not impeachment, is fucked up.
Playing stupid or are you really this big of a dipshit?
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
Trying to catch people in process crimes because you can't show where they have committed a real crime has been the standard tacit used by all police states and dictatorships.
Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
That's what you celebrated during the Benghazi hearings. Why is it all of the sudden a problem now?
Do you think you'll ever get over the butthurt about your girlfriend fucking up and losing an embassy?
Was Obama impeached?
Do you ever think your news source lied to you as it screamed about stand down order and other bullshit lies?
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Just would like a cogent argument or explanation framed. A reasonable request of which no one has taken the time or intelligence to develop.
ARRRRRGG TRAITOR!!! AAARRGGH NATIONAL SECURITY!!!! AAAARRRGGH Trump! AAARRGH you dumb! is all I get.
It's shouldn't be all that hard if this is such an open and such deal.
You asked "what's the high crime" and responded to AOG saying people are calling for treason, I'll answer that one first.
I don't think Trump, Obama, Bush, Clinton etc have ever committed treason, although that word gets thrown around at each of them for whatever reason. For as much as a dislike Trump as a president, and as much as he is out to help himself and his family, I don't think he'd betray the country (although if there were enough money involved he probably would). And I don't think he'd do anything within the definition of treason. He thinks he's doing what the country wants in his warped mind, which is polluted through the lense of Fox news.
Now we are on to the high crime or misdemeanor. Obviously the definition of misdemeanor is different now so I won't really use that word. So high crimes.... At this point we don't have enough information to determine if we are there. That's the whole point of an impeachment hearing, there's a lot of things in the whistleblower report that could lead to high crimes if true. One potential issue is threatening a country to withhold aid if they don't investigate his political opponent. The other side being whether he is covering up his actions and lying. I have no idea if either is true, that's the point of the hearings, you get people under oath and get them to talk. Then eventually you get Trump under oath. I'll say this, Granted Hillary wasn't president at the time and the bar to get a president under oath is higher, but there's a lot more smoke under Trump than the was under Hillary when she was put under oath in connection with Benghazi.
Could it all be bullshit? Of course. If Trump fully and plainly admits to threatening Ukraine and covering it up, will sledog, Bob, Houston, etc still stroke Trump? Of course. So at the end of the day, nothing happens. And there's the circle of politics.
The one thing they never got in the Russiagate hoax.
Not coincidentally the one thing that WJC was actually impeached for - lying under oath.
Glad you just admitted the treasonous plot by your handlers to overthrow a sitting president.
You should hang.
Hopefully @NSA_Dawg is paying attention.
There has been no crime there should be no trial. HTH
You're admitting that you want to get him under oath and question him not because you believe he has already committed an impeachable offense and you want to investigate that belief, but because you hope you can trip him up and get him to "lie" under oath. And as we saw with Scooter Libby a "lie" for a leftists is when you have two people who recall the details of a conversation differently. This is banana republic bullshit and not how a criminal justice system outside of the old East German Stasi police should operate. It's exactly what the old Soviet State security head was talking about when he said "Show me the man and I'll show you the crime."
It's nothing more than the left's continuing push to criminalize political difference. They did it under Reagan and they did it to Bush and now they're doing it to Trump.
Heal yourself first Kunt.
It's all premeditated. Every last bit.
Of course that's what Hondo is calling for.
I'm cool like dat.
Was Obama impeached?