You have $1000...
Let’s say you want a minimum of 2 weapons.
What do you buy?
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If I were in England. I'd buy two buck knives then spend the rest on hookers and blow.
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Assuming flamethrower's off the table
AR-15 and some stupid big Taurus pistol. -
I'm partial to my Mini-14 and GP100
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LEAVE2001400ex said:If I were in England. I'd buy two buck knives then spend the rest on hookers and blow.
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In all seriousness I’d have an axe, crowbar, multitool, and one of my knives with me. I’m not the best shot. Maybe some bear spray.
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Neither.ThomasFremont said:...to defend a cabin in the woods from potential intruders.
Let’s say you want a minimum of 2 weapons.
What do you buy?
I buy @Swaye and @USMChawk plane tickets to the G&R compound which is well stocked with hookers and blow.
Bring it.
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EDIT: Putting the edit at the top. I am a dumbass and did not see the 1000 buck restriction. So, you can skip this section (which will set you back like 3K+) and go below where I answer your question within parameters. Or save your money, be a fucking baller, and do the below.
Cabin in the woods means no need for seriously long range stuff. So, Barrett 50, 338 and 308 stuff out.
I'd get a good lightweight easy handling AR platform with absolute nails credentials (suggest Barrett REC7) or a bullpup of some type (suggest Steyr AUG). By nails credentials I mean has actually seen combat use and has a track record of flawless performance. Optics are dealers choice but for woods suggest open sights or something simple and robust like the SIG ROMEO or an EOTech. Trijicon if you have deep pockets. B/U flip up irons regardless.
Then, for up close and personal I'd roll with a 12 gauge. I am assuming of course since this is defense we aren't talking 10 attackers. So yeah, shotgun for indoor work. Any Remington 870 pump will work, and if you want to go high end check out the Beretta 1301. Some folks say that you should never use an auto shotgun for defense, but those people are morons who live in the past. Reliability scores on the Beretta are through the roof (same with a Benelli M2) - I'd trust my life to either. You can even get the Beretta with a pistol grip stock - it says LE only but you can find them everywhere. If you do get a pump actually train with it. You'd be surprised how difficult simple manipulation tasks can be under duress. In either case get something with ghost ring sights - those are for people combat not birds. -
ANd if you really want a pistol you cannot go wrong with the new HK VP-9, or last generations P-30. I have shot half the pistols ever made and the ergo's, reliability, and shootability of these two pistols is the best I've ever seen sub 1 grand. If you want to go big time, the SIG Legion series is absolute tits but they will cost you. I have the 10MM and it is righteous.
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@ThomasFremont I fucked the entire thing up by not reading the 1000 bucks part. That changes everything. I am a known dumbfuck. As @PurpleThrobber suggests buy plane tickets for the gun nuts you know is your best option.
If not, get the Remington 870 and a cheap but reliable pistol (I'm thinking Glock for semi or Ruger for wheelgun). Might be tough to stay below a grand but you could stay close. Never scrimp on defense. Your life quite literally depends on it. Ruger and Glocks are cheaper guns, but they have a nice track record of reliable performance. The Remington is stone cold reliable. -
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@ThomasFremont I fucked the entire thing up by not reading the 1000 bucks part. That changes everything. I am a known dumbfuck. As @PurpleThrobber suggests buy plane tickets for the gun nuts you know is your best option.
If not, get the Remington 870 and a cheap but reliable pistol (I'm thinking Glock for semi or Ruger for wheelgun). Might be tough to stay below a grand but you could stay close. Never scrimp on defense. Your life quite literally depends on it. Ruger and Glocks are cheaper guns, but they have a nice track record of reliable performance. The Remington is stone cold reliable.
Should I stock up on *real* native hookers or the costume store variety?
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Instead of figuring out the best weapons platforms I’m trying to figure out how to use the terrain to funnel them into kill zones. We’re gonna need a chainsaw, a lot of rope, kerosene, stinging nettles, blackberry bushes, and some excavation equipment (with the $1000.00 spending cap, we’ll have to hire a Mexican with a shovel for that last one). Leave enough money on the table to buy me a tank of gas and I’ll load the car with my inventory.
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The G&R Compound is on high ground and has plentiful supplies/equipment. We good. Will need to check market conditions for llegals but pretty sure I can get six or seven at $1000 for a week's worth of work.USMChawk said:Instead of figuring out the best weapons platforms I’m trying to figure out how to use the terrain to funnel them into kill zones. We’re gonna need a chainsaw, a lot of rope, kerosene, stinging nettles, blackberry bushes, and some excavation equipment (with the $1000.00 spending cap, we’ll have to hire a Mexican with a shovel for that last one). Leave enough money on the table to buy me a tank of gas and I’ll load the car with my inventory.
Do you like your blow already cut or in rock form?
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I like my blow in Jack Daniels form.PurpleThrobber said:
The G&R Compound is on high ground and has plentiful supplies/equipment. We good. Will need to check market conditions for llegals but pretty sure I can get six or seven at $1000 for a week's worth of work.USMChawk said:Instead of figuring out the best weapons platforms I’m trying to figure out how to use the terrain to funnel them into kill zones. We’re gonna need a chainsaw, a lot of rope, kerosene, stinging nettles, blackberry bushes, and some excavation equipment (with the $1000.00 spending cap, we’ll have to hire a Mexican with a shovel for that last one). Leave enough money on the table to buy me a tank of gas and I’ll load the car with my inventory.
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The G&R compound is self-sufficient. #moonshineUSMChawk said:
I like my blow in Jack Daniels form.PurpleThrobber said:
The G&R Compound is on high ground and has plentiful supplies/equipment. We good. Will need to check market conditions for llegals but pretty sure I can get six or seven at $1000 for a week's worth of work.USMChawk said:Instead of figuring out the best weapons platforms I’m trying to figure out how to use the terrain to funnel them into kill zones. We’re gonna need a chainsaw, a lot of rope, kerosene, stinging nettles, blackberry bushes, and some excavation equipment (with the $1000.00 spending cap, we’ll have to hire a Mexican with a shovel for that last one). Leave enough money on the table to buy me a tank of gas and I’ll load the car with my inventory.
Do you like your blow already cut or in rock form?
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WoodDoog_de_Jour said:
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I would have my Bible and my love in my heart for my neighbors and we would join together and share our resources.
Arming myself and fighting back would only make them mad. I would want to discuss why they are intruding. -
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You need at least 3 guns. A rifle pistol and shotgun. For a little more than a grand you could get a Smith & Wesson AR sport 5.56, a Mossberg 500 8 shot pump 12 gauge and a S&W M&P 9mm, .40 or .45 pistol. These all work. Not all the greatest but fairly well proven. Sub in any decent quality handgun in that price range. More importantly you need to know how to use them.
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I still maintain I would just save more and buy better guns, but yeah, this would work, or damn near that 1000 dollar limit.Sledog said:You need at least 3 guns. A rifle pistol and shotgun. For a little more than a grand you could get a Smith & Wesson AR sport 5.56, a Mossberg 500 8 shot pump 12 gauge and a S&W M&P 9mm, .40 or .45 pistol. These all work. Not all the greatest but fairly well proven. Sub in any decent quality handgun in that price range. More importantly you need to know how to use them.
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I've never shot a gun in my life. I'd probably go to the bar and try to find a redneck chick to protect me
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Could I use my existing Remington 870 and Mrs. Lebam's Desert Eagle - then spend the grand on box wine from Costco at #12.99 per - that would be 76 boxes.
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Get to work Sally!Pitchfork51 said:I've never shot a gun in my life. I'd probably go to the bar and try to find a redneck chick to protect me
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Won't be able to afford the ammo...Sledog said:You need at least 3 guns. A rifle pistol and shotgun. For a little more than a grand you could get a Smith & Wesson AR sport 5.56, a Mossberg 500 8 shot pump 12 gauge and a S&W M&P 9mm, .40 or .45 pistol. These all work. Not all the greatest but fairly well proven. Sub in any decent quality handgun in that price range. More importantly you need to know how to use them.
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Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory.
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Nothing sucks like getting ripped off. Its a rage inducerThomasFremont said:Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory. -
You don’t have staff on site year round at your compound?!?ThomasFremont said:Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory.
Sounds poar. The Throbber can hook you up with some illegals at a reasonable weekly fee. And they’ll mule coke in as a value add. -
Especially when it’s stuff that’s a family heirloom. That stuff is irreplaceable.RaceBannon said:
Nothing sucks like getting ripped off. Its a rage inducerThomasFremont said:Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory. -
That sucks. How remote are we? talking on this cabin?ThomasFremont said:Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory.
I usually carry or have my pistol close by day-to-day, but without exception carry when camping, hiking or any place off the beaten track. You simply can't expect anyone to help you in those circumstances and shit does happen. Ten+ years ago, a mother and her daughter were murdered on the trail to Lake 22 east of Granite Falls. That's a fairly busy trail in season but no one saw anything and the bodies weren't discovered for a day or more. Far as I know, that's never been solved. -
would be alright with me if they treated the thieves like they did the old cattle rustlers. Same goes for care thieves and the asshole who sawed off my catalytic converter on my 4Runner.RaceBannon said:
Nothing sucks like getting ripped off. Its a rage inducerThomasFremont said:Backstory:
My cabin got fucking robbed. Totally cleaned out. Fuckers just smashed in the windows and walked off with everything from electronics to kitchenware. Booze cabinet totally gone, which is easily a few grand all by itself. They didn’t take the guns for some reason, probably because they suck. All we had up there was a basic .22 rifle that I learned to shoot on as a kid and my great grandfather’s old double barrel shotgun. They did take my grandpas ka-bar from WWII. That one really pisses me off...
I’m guessing they made sure nobody was home before cleaning it out due to the sheer volume of stuff they removed (they must have had a truck or van). But the smashed windows make me wonder how sophisticated they really were.
Regardless, I’m reevaluating my defensive fortifications and armory.
