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dnc

1to392831weretaken said:

Meek said:

1to392831weretaken said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.

Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”

My guess is probably. Never underestimate branding and marketing, and Oregon is a marketing machine first, development program second. (Of two...)

Car analogy: Bought a minivan in 2012 because minivans are the shit and future ck you all. Went with the Honda because it's the best, right? Turns out not so much:

Engine rebuild #1 at 30,000 miles. Turns out Honda's first crack at variable cylinder deactivation was a disaster, thousands of engines were failing prematurely, and the only reason they fixed these engines in the States is because of a class action suit that they lost.
Both CV joints went TU at 35,000 miles. They kicked the can down the road and replaced them at 50K.
Engine rebuild #2 at 55,000 miles. At first were going to give us new heads because nobody could figure out what was wrong, but then, "Hey, we found this $5 part that was bent, so it's fixed!"
Engine rebuild #3 at 55,001 miles. $5 bent part replacement wasn't the solution. Who'd have guessed?

I called American Honda in Torrance and asked them to buy the thing back from me. Was willing to buy a brand new one that had these problems resolved, but only if they would give me retail for my broke-ass van, which I thought was pretty reasonable. They refused, stating that the van was out of warranty and too old. I tried pulling the ol' "Aren't you worried about me telling every single person I know that Hondas are pieces of shit?"

Her response? In the cuntiest way possible: "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."

She was right. AFTER recounting this story to all of my friends and family, my sister and law and two friends bought new Hondas. Because "they're reliable and well built."

/csb

Point is, my initial reaction to the question of whether Oregon's recruiting will stay strong even if the results on the field and draft don't match was "of course not." Logically, when the sales pitch is exposed as a fraud, the endeavor will collapse. In reality, perception and marketing matter way more, and there's just too much being invested down there into marketing hype and excitement for me to believe that they won't be able to keep suckering kids into going there. I think kids waking up to the scam is probably the least likely outcome, behind even the possibility that Oregon gets legitimately good and backs the recruiting hype up on the field. If the results onfield taper off, they'll make another splash SEC Way West hire to keep the recruiting buzz going.

Taggart's single year was a disaster, including being assblasted by their rival by 49 points, and the big concern was they'd lose their recruiting momentum if they didn't retain him.
Cristoballz was voted in by the players, which is objectively a disastrous way to choose a replacement coach.
Yet the recruiting stayed steady at or near the top of the conference.

They'll be fine. I'll be more worried, though, if they get another real coach.

that's unfortunately. I bought a 2014 Honda Odyssey Elite (that was the year they strayed away from Touring and went with Elite) and I have to say that it has been a dream car. I took it for the regularly scheduled/recommended service diligently during the first 5 years and the only things I've had to replace are the tires (fucking hate Michelin so I upgraded to Yokohamas) and the battery. I have paid it off and it still drives like a dream. Only thing I hate about it is the UI for the video player.

2014 was also the first year after they solved the VCM failures. Too late for me and thousands of others.

What year did they start?

1to392831weretaken

dnc said:

1to392831weretaken said:

Meek said:

1to392831weretaken said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.

Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”

My guess is probably. Never underestimate branding and marketing, and Oregon is a marketing machine first, development program second. (Of two...)

Car analogy: Bought a minivan in 2012 because minivans are the shit and future ck you all. Went with the Honda because it's the best, right? Turns out not so much:

Engine rebuild #1 at 30,000 miles. Turns out Honda's first crack at variable cylinder deactivation was a disaster, thousands of engines were failing prematurely, and the only reason they fixed these engines in the States is because of a class action suit that they lost.
Both CV joints went TU at 35,000 miles. They kicked the can down the road and replaced them at 50K.
Engine rebuild #2 at 55,000 miles. At first were going to give us new heads because nobody could figure out what was wrong, but then, "Hey, we found this $5 part that was bent, so it's fixed!"
Engine rebuild #3 at 55,001 miles. $5 bent part replacement wasn't the solution. Who'd have guessed?

I called American Honda in Torrance and asked them to buy the thing back from me. Was willing to buy a brand new one that had these problems resolved, but only if they would give me retail for my broke-ass van, which I thought was pretty reasonable. They refused, stating that the van was out of warranty and too old. I tried pulling the ol' "Aren't you worried about me telling every single person I know that Hondas are pieces of shit?"

Her response? In the cuntiest way possible: "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."

She was right. AFTER recounting this story to all of my friends and family, my sister and law and two friends bought new Hondas. Because "they're reliable and well built."

/csb

Point is, my initial reaction to the question of whether Oregon's recruiting will stay strong even if the results on the field and draft don't match was "of course not." Logically, when the sales pitch is exposed as a fraud, the endeavor will collapse. In reality, perception and marketing matter way more, and there's just too much being invested down there into marketing hype and excitement for me to believe that they won't be able to keep suckering kids into going there. I think kids waking up to the scam is probably the least likely outcome, behind even the possibility that Oregon gets legitimately good and backs the recruiting hype up on the field. If the results onfield taper off, they'll make another splash SEC Way West hire to keep the recruiting buzz going.

Taggart's single year was a disaster, including being assblasted by their rival by 49 points, and the big concern was they'd lose their recruiting momentum if they didn't retain him.
Cristoballz was voted in by the players, which is objectively a disastrous way to choose a replacement coach.
Yet the recruiting stayed steady at or near the top of the conference.

They'll be fine. I'll be more worried, though, if they get another real coach.

that's unfortunately. I bought a 2014 Honda Odyssey Elite (that was the year they strayed away from Touring and went with Elite) and I have to say that it has been a dream car. I took it for the regularly scheduled/recommended service diligently during the first 5 years and the only things I've had to replace are the tires (fucking hate Michelin so I upgraded to Yokohamas) and the battery. I have paid it off and it still drives like a dream. Only thing I hate about it is the UI for the video player.

2014 was also the first year after they solved the VCM failures. Too late for me and thousands of others.

What year did they start?

2008 or 2009 depending on the model. In short, it affected every single V6 with cylinder deactivation from when they started selling them in 2008 until they fixed it in 2013. This is a high-six-figure/seven-figure number of vehicles worldwide: Accords, Pilots, Ridgelines, Oddyseys.

Did not mean to bring AIDS to this thread with minivan hawt talk...

BeerThirty

1to392831weretaken said:

CFetters_Nacho_Lover said:

Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.

Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”

My guess is probably. Never underestimate branding and marketing, and Oregon is a marketing machine first, development program second. (Of two...)

Car analogy: Bought a minivan in 2012 because minivans are the shit and fuck you all. Went with the Honda because it's the best, right? Turns out not so much:

Engine rebuild #1 at 30,000 miles. Turns out Honda's first crack at variable cylinder deactivation was a disaster, thousands of engines were failing prematurely, and the only reason they fixed these engines in the States is because of a class action suit that they lost.
Both CV joints went TU at 35,000 miles. They kicked the can down the road and replaced them at 50K.
Engine rebuild #2 at 55,000 miles. At first were going to give us new heads because nobody could figure out what was wrong, but then, "Hey, we found this $5 part that was bent, so it's fixed!"
Engine rebuild #3 at 55,001 miles. $5 bent part replacement wasn't the solution. Who'd have guessed?

I called American Honda in Torrance and asked them to buy the thing back from me. Was willing to buy a brand new one that had these problems resolved, but only if they would give me retail for my broke-ass van, which I thought was pretty reasonable. They refused, stating that the van was out of warranty and too old. I tried pulling the ol' "Aren't you worried about me telling every single person I know that Hondas are pieces of shit?"

Her response? In the cuntiest way possible: "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."

She was right. AFTER recounting this story to all of my friends and family, my sister and law and two friends bought new Hondas. Because "they're reliable and well built."

/csb

Point is, my initial reaction to the question of whether Oregon's recruiting will stay strong even if the results on the field and draft don't match was "of course not." Logically, when the sales pitch is exposed as a fraud, the endeavor will collapse. In reality, perception and marketing matter way more, and there's just too much being invested down there into marketing hype and excitement for me to believe that they won't be able to keep suckering kids into going there. I think kids waking up to the scam is probably the least likely outcome, behind even the possibility that Oregon gets legitimately good and backs the recruiting hype up on the field. If the results onfield taper off, they'll make another splash SEC Way West hire to keep the recruiting buzz going.

Taggart's single year was a disaster, including being assblasted by their rival by 49 points, and the big concern was they'd lose their recruiting momentum if they didn't retain him.
Cristoballz was voted in by the players, which is objectively a disastrous way to choose a replacement coach.
Yet the recruiting stayed steady at or near the top of the conference.

They'll be fine. I'll be more worried, though, if they get another real coach.

TL DR