Uh oh. The Oregon staffer that is suppose to keep an eye on this is about to be in trouble. They are 2 offers behind Colorado. The job description clearly stated they are suppose to keep Oregon 1 offer behind most in the pac12.
Uh oh. The Oregon staffer that is suppose to keep an eye on this is about to be in trouble. They are 2 offers behind Colorado. The job description clearly stated they are suppose to keep Oregon 1 offer behind most in the pac12.
Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.
Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”
Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.
Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”
Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.
Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”
My guess is probably. Never underestimate branding and marketing, and Oregon is a marketing machine first, development program second. (Of two...)
Car analogy: Bought a minivan in 2012 because minivans are the shit and fuck you all. Went with the Honda because it's the best, right? Turns out not so much:
Engine rebuild #1 at 30,000 miles. Turns out Honda's first crack at variable cylinder deactivation was a disaster, thousands of engines were failing prematurely, and the only reason they fixed these engines in the States is because of a class action suit that they lost. Both CV joints went TU at 35,000 miles. They kicked the can down the road and replaced them at 50K. Engine rebuild #2 at 55,000 miles. At first were going to give us new heads because nobody could figure out what was wrong, but then, "Hey, we found this $5 part that was bent, so it's fixed!" Engine rebuild #3 at 55,001 miles. $5 bent part replacement wasn't the solution. Who'd have guessed?
I called American Honda in Torrance and asked them to buy the thing back from me. Was willing to buy a brand new one that had these problems resolved, but only if they would give me retail for my broke-ass van, which I thought was pretty reasonable. They refused, stating that the van was out of warranty and too old. I tried pulling the ol' "Aren't you worried about me telling every single person I know that Hondas are pieces of shit?"
Her response? In the cuntiest way possible: "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."
She was right. AFTER recounting this story to all of my friends and family, my sister and law and two friends bought new Hondas. Because "they're reliable and well built."
/csb
Point is, my initial reaction to the question of whether Oregon's recruiting will stay strong even if the results on the field and draft don't match was "of course not." Logically, when the sales pitch is exposed as a fraud, the endeavor will collapse. In reality, perception and marketing matter way more, and there's just too much being invested down there into marketing hype and excitement for me to believe that they won't be able to keep suckering kids into going there. I think kids waking up to the scam is probably the least likely outcome, behind even the possibility that Oregon gets legitimately good and backs the recruiting hype up on the field. If the results onfield taper off, they'll make another splash SEC Way West hire to keep the recruiting buzz going.
Taggart's single year was a disaster, including being assblasted by their rival by 49 points, and the big concern was they'd lose their recruiting momentum if they didn't retain him. Cristoballz was voted in by the players, which is objectively a disastrous way to choose a replacement coach. Yet the recruiting stayed steady at or near the top of the conference.
They'll be fine. I'll be more worried, though, if they get another real coach.
Obviously each approach is based on the philosophy of the head coach but I look at Stanford & UW being very selective and having the 2nd & 3rd best average rating and then Oregon at the opposite end of the spectrum with the best average.
Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”
Without our punter, we are above them. But that is picking nits.
What it says to me is that Stanford and UW know exactly what kids they are looking for that fits their program. Oregon OTHO offers kids from across the country regardless of if they might decommit for a local school or may not fit the program.
Not to sound like Ballz, but I’ve heard from a few places that they do tend to look for highly rated kids, and that they want to offer as many as possible to drive hype.
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ASU: 16 commits / 227 offers / 7.04% success rate / 84.13 avg 247 rating
Cal: 19 commits / 127 offers / 14.96% success rate / 84.95 avg 247 rating
Colorado: 16 commits / 301 offers / 5.32% success rate / 84.56 avg 247 rating
Oregon: 19 commits / 299 offers / 6.36% success rate / 88.58 avg 247 rating
OSU: 12 commits / 148 offers / 8.11% success rate / 84.83 avg 247 rating
Stanford: 13 commits / 63 offers / 20.63% success rate / 88.46 avg 247 rating
UCLA: 11 commits / 95 offers / 11.58% success rate / 85.45 avg 247 rating
USC: 10 commits / 155 offers / 6.45% success rate / 86.90 avg 247 rating
Utah: 5 commits / 214 offers / 2.34% success rate / 84.40 avg 247 rating
Washington: 19 commits / 70 offers / 27.14% success rate / 88.47 avg 247 rating
WSU: 10 commits / 161 offers / 6.21% success rate / 84.60 avg 247 rating
Arizona: 10 Three Stars / 1 Two Star
ASU: 3 Four Stars / 12 Three Stars / 1 Two Star
Cal: 1 Four Star / 18 Three Stars
Colorado: 15 Three Stars / 1 Two Star
Oregon: 7 Four Stars / 12 Three Stars
OSU: 12 Three Stars
Stanford: 3 Four Stars / 10 Three Stars
UCLA: 4 Four Stars / 6 Three Stars / 1 Two Star
USC: 1 Five Star / 1 Four Star / 8 Three Stars
Utah: 5 Three Stars
Washington: 7 Four Stars / 11 Three Stars / 1 Two Star
WSU: 10 Three Stars
Sorry.
I wanted to do it on a spreadsheet but I was doing it from my iPhone while waiting in a doctors office.
Speaking hypothetically even though we don’t deal in hypotheticals around here Bob, can Oregon maintain its pace and the results? What they’re currently doing screams “we have no idea what we’re doing so we’re throwing against the wall to see what sticks”
Car analogy: Bought a minivan in 2012 because minivans are the shit and fuck you all. Went with the Honda because it's the best, right? Turns out not so much:
Engine rebuild #1 at 30,000 miles. Turns out Honda's first crack at variable cylinder deactivation was a disaster, thousands of engines were failing prematurely, and the only reason they fixed these engines in the States is because of a class action suit that they lost.
Both CV joints went TU at 35,000 miles. They kicked the can down the road and replaced them at 50K.
Engine rebuild #2 at 55,000 miles. At first were going to give us new heads because nobody could figure out what was wrong, but then, "Hey, we found this $5 part that was bent, so it's fixed!"
Engine rebuild #3 at 55,001 miles. $5 bent part replacement wasn't the solution. Who'd have guessed?
I called American Honda in Torrance and asked them to buy the thing back from me. Was willing to buy a brand new one that had these problems resolved, but only if they would give me retail for my broke-ass van, which I thought was pretty reasonable. They refused, stating that the van was out of warranty and too old. I tried pulling the ol' "Aren't you worried about me telling every single person I know that Hondas are pieces of shit?"
Her response? In the cuntiest way possible: "Oh, I think Honda's reputation will be juuuuust fine."
She was right. AFTER recounting this story to all of my friends and family, my sister and law and two friends bought new Hondas. Because "they're reliable and well built."
/csb
Point is, my initial reaction to the question of whether Oregon's recruiting will stay strong even if the results on the field and draft don't match was "of course not." Logically, when the sales pitch is exposed as a fraud, the endeavor will collapse. In reality, perception and marketing matter way more, and there's just too much being invested down there into marketing hype and excitement for me to believe that they won't be able to keep suckering kids into going there. I think kids waking up to the scam is probably the least likely outcome, behind even the possibility that Oregon gets legitimately good and backs the recruiting hype up on the field. If the results onfield taper off, they'll make another splash SEC Way West hire to keep the recruiting buzz going.
Taggart's single year was a disaster, including being assblasted by their rival by 49 points, and the big concern was they'd lose their recruiting momentum if they didn't retain him.
Cristoballz was voted in by the players, which is objectively a disastrous way to choose a replacement coach.
Yet the recruiting stayed steady at or near the top of the conference.
They'll be fine. I'll be more worried, though, if they get another real coach.
What it says to me is that Stanford and UW know exactly what kids they are looking for that fits their program. Oregon OTHO offers kids from across the country regardless of if they might decommit for a local school or may not fit the program.
Not to sound like Ballz, but I’ve heard from a few places that they do tend to look for highly rated kids, and that they want to offer as many as possible to drive hype.