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  • Pitchfork51
    Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 27,676
    Swaye said:

    Nobody wants to explain how the poor are getting stolen from when they are getting 12k per adult back?

    He literally said in his Joe Rogan interview that current govt benefits (ie food stamps, etc) get deducted from the $1,000/month. Not sure how else to say it.
    Right, but thats exactly the point. The idea is that UBI eventually replaces other welfare programs as people are incentivized to take the $1000, which has no bureaucracy or red tape behind it unlike other welfare programs such as food stamps. Food stamps are a great example because they have weird restrictions and actually make it harder in many cases for low income people to buy actual healthy food. UBI is a far more flexible and empowering replacement. From a conservative point of view I would think this makes more sense and Im surprised you seem to be arguing for other welfare programs.
    I know what you are saying here but from a conservative point of view all of these programs can get fuct and people can go get a fucking job and figure their shit out.

    The problem for me is we are now at the point where the only questions being asked are HOW MUCH free shit the government should give you for breathing, not whether or not there should even be FREE SHIT.

    War's over. Socialists won. I'm buying a compound.
    @PurpleThrobber true?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,500 Standard Supporter

    Swaye said:

    Nobody wants to explain how the poor are getting stolen from when they are getting 12k per adult back?

    He literally said in his Joe Rogan interview that current govt benefits (ie food stamps, etc) get deducted from the $1,000/month. Not sure how else to say it.
    Right, but thats exactly the point. The idea is that UBI eventually replaces other welfare programs as people are incentivized to take the $1000, which has no bureaucracy or red tape behind it unlike other welfare programs such as food stamps. Food stamps are a great example because they have weird restrictions and actually make it harder in many cases for low income people to buy actual healthy food. UBI is a far more flexible and empowering replacement. From a conservative point of view I would think this makes more sense and Im surprised you seem to be arguing for other welfare programs.
    I know what you are saying here but from a conservative point of view all of these programs can get fuct and people can go get a fucking job and figure their shit out.

    The problem for me is we are now at the point where the only questions being asked are HOW MUCH free shit the government should give you for breathing, not whether or not there should even be FREE SHIT.

    War's over. Socialists won. I'm buying a compound.
    @PurpleThrobber true?
    As long as I can keep the high ground for strategic reasons.

  • dnc
    dnc Member Posts: 56,855
    pawz said:

    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
    What, in your mind, is the difference between Yang and Bernie or Warren? Yang is for M4A, UBI will cost more than every other program Bernie and Warren have put out combined.
    For one thing I think Yang has approached this as a math problem not an issue of supposed "rights" or idealism. He has run the numbers and actually sees this helping the nation economically, not providing for one specific oppressed demographic or "economic justice". I'm not 100% convinced he's right but I'm much more inclined to try his concept because I am more optimistic it works mathematically and I think putting an end to (or at least a massive dent in) all the waste and corruption in the entitlements bureaucracies is a huge win.

    Along the same lines I see him as non partisan and someone who would seek to unite not divide. He's not running on not being Trump, he's running on actual substance.

    And I like Tulsi even better so its not just about him.

    Right now Tulsi and Yang are the two democrats I'd consider voting for. Put them together and I'd definitely vote for them in either order.
    Pretty much this. Tulsi is better.
    AGREE

    Hence

    "And I like Tulsi even better so its not just about him."