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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
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    TheKobeStopperTheKobeStopper Member Posts: 5,959
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    dnc said:

    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
    What, in your mind, is the difference between Yang and Bernie or Warren? Yang is for M4A, UBI will cost more than every other program Bernie and Warren have put out combined.
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,617
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    dnc said:

    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
    What, in your mind, is the difference between Yang and Bernie or Warren? Yang is for M4A, UBI will cost more than every other program Bernie and Warren have put out combined.
    Go to his website and do your research.
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    dncdnc Member Posts: 56,614
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    dnc said:

    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
    What, in your mind, is the difference between Yang and Bernie or Warren? Yang is for M4A, UBI will cost more than every other program Bernie and Warren have put out combined.
    For one thing I think Yang has approached this as a math problem not an issue of supposed "rights" or idealism. He has run the numbers and actually sees this helping the nation economically, not providing for one specific oppressed demographic or "economic justice". I'm not 100% convinced he's right but I'm much more inclined to try his concept because I am more optimistic it works mathematically and I think putting an end to (or at least a massive dent in) all the waste and corruption in the entitlements bureaucracies is a huge win.

    Along the same lines I see him as non partisan and someone who would seek to unite not divide. He's not running on not being Trump, he's running on actual substance.

    And I like Tulsi even better so its not just about him.

    Right now Tulsi and Yang are the two democrats I'd consider voting for. Put them together and I'd definitely vote for them in either order.
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    SwayeSwaye Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 41,068
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    dnc said:

    dnc said:

    jecornel said:

    Yang/Tulsi ticket????????????

    I would vote for them.
    What, in your mind, is the difference between Yang and Bernie or Warren? Yang is for M4A, UBI will cost more than every other program Bernie and Warren have put out combined.
    For one thing I think Yang has approached this as a math problem not an issue of supposed "rights" or idealism. He has run the numbers and actually sees this helping the nation economically, not providing for one specific oppressed demographic or "economic justice". I'm not 100% convinced he's right but I'm much more inclined to try his concept because I am more optimistic it works mathematically and I think putting an end to (or at least a massive dent in) all the waste and corruption in the entitlements bureaucracies is a huge win.

    Along the same lines I see him as non partisan and someone who would seek to unite not divide. He's not running on not being Trump, he's running on actual substance.

    And I like Tulsi even better so its not just about him.

    Right now Tulsi and Yang are the two democrats I'd consider voting for. Put them together and I'd definitely vote for them in either order.
    I would vote for Tulsi right now if she let me touch the boobies. Yang and his wang, not so much. I'm kidding. I would.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    Yang’s UBI is literally stealing from the poor to pay the middle class. Amazes me how many people seem to endorse it (and not just in a joking manor)...
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    SledogSledog Member Posts: 31,070
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    Yang’s UBI is literally stealing from the poor to pay the middle class. Amazes me how many people seem to endorse it (and not just in a joking manor)...

    Free shit but people are too stupid or greedy to know or care where the money comes from. Where do they think we are going to come up with $327,200,000,000.00 A month?
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    Sledog said:

    Yang’s UBI is literally stealing from the poor to pay the middle class. Amazes me how many people seem to endorse it (and not just in a joking manor)...

    Free shit but people are too stupid or greedy to know or care where the money comes from. Where do they think we are going to come up with $327,200,000,000.00 A month?
    you guys really need to start using google

    https://www.yang2020.com/blog/ubi_faqs/pay-universal-basic-income/


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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,617
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    UBI is the hook like the wall

    Would you rather have a wall or a thousand bucks a month?

    No tie. Comfortable in in his own skin and an idea that separates him from the pack

    It's why he's gaining traction. The lesson of Trump is not to he obnoxious and tweet too much it's to be who you are.

    Most of the dems are the typical robots programmed to not say anything

    Nailed it.
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    SoutherndawgSoutherndawg Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 8,240
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    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    Nailed it.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    Financial transaction tax is negligible, carbon tax will incentivize businesses to at least try, as we’ve said time after time VAT shouldn’t affect costs to a level that UBI cant offset and then some. Imo these are all on larger businesses that can shoulder them. Houston said its robbing from the lower class to help the middle, but the way I read it its using big business to generate rev for middle and lower class. Yangs entire platform and focus before this has been to stimulate SMBs and entrepreneurship in places other than the coasts.
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    That disproportionately hit the poorest in society (VAT and inflation).
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    Carbon tax is no deal

    Fucks the working poor hard

    And dry
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    edited August 2019

    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    Financial transaction tax is negligible, carbon tax will incentivize businesses to at least try, as we’ve said time after time VAT shouldn’t affect costs to a level that UBI cant offset and then some. Imo these are all on larger businesses that can shoulder them. Houston said its robbing from the lower class to help the middle, but the way I read it its using big business to generate rev for middle and lower class. Yangs entire platform and focus before this has been to stimulate SMBs and entrepreneurship in places other than the coasts.
    VAT and carbon taxes are the most regressive type of taxes around. Add to that an injection of inflation for those services and you are literally robbing the poor to give to the rich. Especially since the last interview I saw with Yang he specifically said that current government benefits will be deducted from your $1,000/month (ie the poorest don’t get any more yet are now stuck paying VAT taxes).

    It is literally stealing from the poor to give money to the middle class.
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    WilburHooksHandsWilburHooksHands Member Posts: 6,742
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    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    That disproportionately hit the poorest in society (VAT and inflation).
    Inflation is real but VAT and carbon tax arent going to cost low income individuals $12,000 a year. Not sure why the 12 grand a year (per 18 year old citizen, not per household) coming back keeps getting ignored? Those taxes won’t be a drop in the bucket of the 24k my household would get.
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,617
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    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    Financial transaction tax is negligible, carbon tax will incentivize businesses to at least try, as we’ve said time after time VAT shouldn’t affect costs to a level that UBI cant offset and then some. Imo these are all on larger businesses that can shoulder them. Houston said its robbing from the lower class to help the middle, but the way I read it its using big business to generate rev for middle and lower class. Yangs entire platform and focus before this has been to stimulate SMBs and entrepreneurship in places other than the coasts.
    VAT and carbon taxes are the most regressive type of taxes around. Add to that an injection of inflation for those services and you are literally robbing the poor to give to the rich. Especially since the last interview I saw with Yang he specifically said that current government benefits will be deducted from your $1,000/month (ie the poorest don’t get any more yet are now stuck paying VAT taxes).

    It is literally stealing from the poor to give money to the middle class.
    There is no middle class.
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    jecorneljecornel Member Posts: 9,617
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    HoustonHuskyHoustonHusky Member Posts: 5,954
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    jecornel said:

    So a metric fuckton of new taxes

    Financial transaction tax is negligible, carbon tax will incentivize businesses to at least try, as we’ve said time after time VAT shouldn’t affect costs to a level that UBI cant offset and then some. Imo these are all on larger businesses that can shoulder them. Houston said its robbing from the lower class to help the middle, but the way I read it its using big business to generate rev for middle and lower class. Yangs entire platform and focus before this has been to stimulate SMBs and entrepreneurship in places other than the coasts.
    VAT and carbon taxes are the most regressive type of taxes around. Add to that an injection of inflation for those services and you are literally robbing the poor to give to the rich. Especially since the last interview I saw with Yang he specifically said that current government benefits will be deducted from your $1,000/month (ie the poorest don’t get any more yet are now stuck paying VAT taxes).

    It is literally stealing from the poor to give money to the middle class.
    There is no middle class.
    It’s shrunk to ~50% of the population...must not exist anymore...
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