Creep transferred guardianship of his kid??

YellowSnow

@creepycoug ?? Pretend lawyers, academis and 1% ers? What could go wrong?

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-college-guardianship-scandal-kass-20190731-t4ekc6wgq5dtbjwbgxza27xaca-story.html

creepycoug

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Bendintheriver

I paid for my own schooling. Not one dime of help other than a $600 Pell grant. My mother had zero funds to help so I did what I had to and worked my way through college and paid loans off after graduation. I used to marvel at how some of the rich kids were awarded scholarship money especially the rich kids from out of state who were given money to attend the University.

Life isn't fair but the people in this article need to pay it all back.

PurpleThrobber

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

One Night in Bangkok......

It's possible. Remote but never say never.

I do like the retroactive loan conversion idea - but most of these fucks are so wealthy that's just a slap on their wrist.

They need to do some time in the graybar hotel. Even if it's just a week - something tangible that potentially could get their shit rammed in from angry sex offender arrestee....

ramenduck

YellowSnow said:

@creepycoug ?? Pretend lawyers, academis and 1% ers? What could go wrong?

https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-college-guardianship-scandal-kass-20190731-t4ekc6wgq5dtbjwbgxza27xaca-story.html

I’d support some hefty fines for the parents and perhaps a 5-10 year transcript notation for the student who benefitted.

I paid full fare and was 20 years out when I became debt free. Many times paid at the bursar in cash because I had maxed the available aid.

YellowSnow

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

creepycoug

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

By all accounts, you married hotness. WGAF where she went to school.

I don't want my genes comingling with OBK's genes. This is, as we say in the law game, sic loquitur pro se.

Whatever mistake Creep's progeny will make in mate selection, at least it won't be that catastrophic. Reasonable amounts man. Reasonable amounts.

YellowSnow

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

By all accounts, you married hotness. WGAF where she went to school.

I don't want my genes comingling with OBK's genes. This is, as we say in the law game, sic loquitur pro se.

Whatever mistake Creep's progeny will make in mate selection, at least it won't be that catastrophic cataclysmic . Reasonable amounts man. Reasonable amounts.

dirtysouwfdawg

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

You voted for @baseman. As he is dead to HCH, you are now dead to me as well.

BUT...






I heard your greasy Slav (your words not mine) is kinda hot. Poolside pics and I might let you back into my life (of her, not you).

Guess I shouldn’t have booned the waitress with a GED.

FY, FML

Pitchfork51

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

By all accounts, you married hotness. WGAF where she went to school.

I don't want my genes comingling with OBK's genes. This is, as we say in the law game, sic loquitur pro se.

Whatever mistake Creep's progeny will make in mate selection, at least it won't be that catastrophic. Reasonable amounts man. Reasonable amounts.

I may still be hungover but I didn't read a word of this.


I love the spinners, but I sure as shit aint having a kid with one.

HustlinOwl

Don't hate the player, hate the game.

UW_Doog_Bot

creepycoug said:

YellowSnow said:

creepycoug said:

What they ought to do, if they don't do it already, is convert the fraudulently obtained aid into a federal loan with retroactive interest. In addition, the degrees should be forfeited and their record should indicate academic dishonesty.

If Damone thinks taxes are theft, then these people are stealing our? stolen property.

I have no patience for it. There are a lot of people who kill themselves to get through school with jerbs, family sacrifice, etc.

PS: Creep was full pay baby. $65 gs a year, and probably more when you figured out the incidentals and shit. Do the maf. What did it buy me? Well, among many other things, it drastically decreased the odds that rowboat would run into one of OBK's relatives and decide he was Mr. Right. Never shall our gene pools co-mingle. Never, ever.

Wait - so you're saying that unless a potential mate went to a public ivy or elite private college or university they are not marriage material? That's just really hurtful @creepycoug . I married a greasy slav from basically a Cuog level academis institution and my standard of living is just fine. Hell, we'll be joining the cuntry club soon and I'll be sending poolside pics to @dirtysouwfdawg .

By all accounts, you married hotness. WGAF where she went to school.

I don't want my genes comingling with OBK's genes. This is, as we say in the law game, sic loquitur pro se.

Whatever mistake Creep's progeny will make in mate selection, at least it won't be that catastrophic. Reasonable amounts man. Reasonable amounts.

*Increases monthly contribution to Doog_Bot_3.0's college fund.

HHusky

Bendintheriver said:

I paid for my own schooling. Not one dime of help other than a $600 Pell grant. My mother had zero funds to help so I did what I had to and worked my way through college and paid loans off after graduation. I used to marvel at how some of the rich kids were awarded scholarship money especially the rich kids from out of state who were given money to attend the University.

Life isn't fair but the people in this article need to pay it all back.

College didn't cost anything when you were in school, old man. I paid for college on a part time job.

I couldn't realistically insist my kids pay the $150,000 or so it cost my wife and I for each of them to get their degrees. They were all "given" money by their schools too, btw. I balked at paying $250,000+ for my youngest to get a bachelors degree at Occidental, 'cuz I'm a cheap bastard, of course.

When my eldest entered college ten years ago, an obvious strategy was a pre-college divorce with the financial aid application being made by the lower income parent, who might plan ahead by lowering his or her income for a time. We didn't do it, but we joked about it. Transferring guardianship is an interesting variant.

RaceBannon

My folks were separated but not divorced when my brother was going to Columbia so he didn't get aid because my dad's income still counted. My mom worked three jobs to send him there. Or not. He went to both Columbia and Berkeley. School was amazingly affordable

UW was 180 bucks a quarter when I went there

creepycoug

HHusky said:

Bendintheriver said:

I paid for my own schooling. Not one dime of help other than a $600 Pell grant. My mother had zero funds to help so I did what I had to and worked my way through college and paid loans off after graduation. I used to marvel at how some of the rich kids were awarded scholarship money especially the rich kids from out of state who were given money to attend the University.

Life isn't fair but the people in this article need to pay it all back.

College didn't cost anything when you were in school, old man. I paid for college on a part time job.

I couldn't realistically insist my kids pay the $150,000 or so it cost my wife and I for each of them to get their degrees. They were all "given" money by their schools too, btw. I balked at paying $250,000+ for my youngest to get a bachelors degree at Occidental, 'cuz I'm a cheap bastard, of course.

When my eldest entered college ten years ago, an obvious strategy was a pre-college divorce with the financial aid application being made by the lower income parent, who might plan ahead by lowering his or her income for a time. We didn't do it, but we joked about it. Transferring guardianship is an interesting variant.

This is part of the reason I pony'd up the larger dollars for the kids. I got through UW and UW LS for essentially nothing. It was the bargain of a life-tim.

HHusky

RaceBannon said:

My folks were separated but not divorced when my brother was going to Columbia so he didn't get aid because my dad's income still counted. My mom worked three jobs to send him there. Or not. He went to both Columbia and Berkeley. School was amazingly affordable

UW was 180 bucks a quarter when I went there

Then it skyrocketed to $229/quarter--where it stayed for years.

HHusky

creepycoug said:

HHusky said:

Bendintheriver said:

I paid for my own schooling. Not one dime of help other than a $600 Pell grant. My mother had zero funds to help so I did what I had to and worked my way through college and paid loans off after graduation. I used to marvel at how some of the rich kids were awarded scholarship money especially the rich kids from out of state who were given money to attend the University.

Life isn't fair but the people in this article need to pay it all back.

College didn't cost anything when you were in school, old man. I paid for college on a part time job.

I couldn't realistically insist my kids pay the $150,000 or so it cost my wife and I for each of them to get their degrees. They were all "given" money by their schools too, btw. I balked at paying $250,000+ for my youngest to get a bachelors degree at Occidental, 'cuz I'm a cheap bastard, of course.

When my eldest entered college ten years ago, an obvious strategy was a pre-college divorce with the financial aid application being made by the lower income parent, who might plan ahead by lowering his or her income for a time. We didn't do it, but we joked about it. Transferring guardianship is an interesting variant.

This is part of the reason I pony'd up the larger dollars for the kids. I got through UW and UW LS for essentially nothing. It was the bargain of a life-tim.

Yep. I have four degrees from UW--'cuz why not? It was an amazing bargain.

(Now that I've hit a certain milestone birthday, I audit UW courses for essentially nothing. Kids today are getting screwed by comparison--screwed isn't even a strong enough word for it.)

Bendintheriver

HHusky said:

Bendintheriver said:

I paid for my own schooling. Not one dime of help other than a $600 Pell grant. My mother had zero funds to help so I did what I had to and worked my way through college and paid loans off after graduation. I used to marvel at how some of the rich kids were awarded scholarship money especially the rich kids from out of state who were given money to attend the University.

Life isn't fair but the people in this article need to pay it all back.

College didn't cost anything when you were in school, old man. I paid for college on a part time job.

I couldn't realistically insist my kids pay the $150,000 or so it cost my wife and I for each of them to get their degrees. They were all "given" money by their schools too, btw. I balked at paying $250,000+ for my youngest to get a bachelors degree at Occidental, 'cuz I'm a cheap bastard, of course.

When my eldest entered college ten years ago, an obvious strategy was a pre-college divorce with the financial aid application being made by the lower income parent, who might plan ahead by lowering his or her income for a time. We didn't do it, but we joked about it. Transferring guardianship is an interesting variant.

Oh I wasn't bitching about it, I feel very fortunate that I went to school when I did. I had close to 20K debt and had a first job that paid me less than that. I wish that I only needed a part time job to pay for my education and come out debt free. Food, clothing, housing, books, the Greyhound bus tickets, all were on me so I took every single loan out I could and still came up short each year. I am not bitching as I used that 4 years to their very fullest and enjoyed every single minute of it.

I have fired two Stanford MBA's and had the distinct pleasure of firing one each from Princeton and Harvard. They were insufferable arrogant bastards. Mommy and daddy wasted their money on those two Ivy league educations. 250K is ridiculous money to pay for an education. I don't give a shit which school it is. If they aren't going for a specialized education (Medical, Lawyer, Engineer, etc) it should be cheap state school.

creepycoug

RaceBannon said:

My folks were separated but not divorced when my brother was going to Columbia so he didn't get aid because my dad's income still counted. My mom worked three jobs to send him there. Or not. He went to both Columbia and Berkeley. School was amazingly affordable

UW was 180 bucks a quarter when I went there

That looks like you climbing up the stairs.

YellowSnow

RaceBannon said:

My folks were separated but not divorced when my brother was going to Columbia so he didn't get aid because my dad's income still counted. My mom worked three jobs to send him there. Or not. He went to both Columbia and Berkeley. School was amazingly affordable

UW was 180 bucks a quarter when I went there

And I thought in-state was cheap at UW in the late 90's. In my day is was $1100 a quarter for tuition and books which is $1700 in 2019 USD. $180 in 1974 equates to about $980 today. Fuck man - other than 'Nam you Boomers had a cushy existence.

creepycoug

YellowSnow said:

RaceBannon said:

My folks were separated but not divorced when my brother was going to Columbia so he didn't get aid because my dad's income still counted. My mom worked three jobs to send him there. Or not. He went to both Columbia and Berkeley. School was amazingly affordable

UW was 180 bucks a quarter when I went there

And I thought in-state was cheap at UW in the late 90's. In my day is was $1100 a quarter for tuition and books which is $1700 in 2019 USD. $180 in 1974 equates to about $980 today. Fuck man - other than 'Nam you Boomers had a cushy existence.

Let Uncle Creepy tell you a little story about affordability young buck.

Each year I was at UW, including LS, I applied for this scholarship from the Bishop Foundation. An old timber baron died w/o children, and he and his wife left their fortune to the Harbor to endow scholarships for the local brats, like me. I filled out the application in five minutes, and basically confirmed that I'm breathing and that I graduated from a harbor high school. That trust sent A LOT of harbor kids to school.

Money would just show up in the mail. A check. To me. My name. I could have done anything with it. Random ass amounts because they were cutting into the corpus of the trust at that point. My 3rd year in LS, I remember getting a check for like $3482.16, or some shit like that. No strings. Paid for a full year of LS tuition, books and I had money left over to burn.

Ah, those were the days.

Plus, I skipped 'Nam.