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The Triumphs of Troy, Open Thread

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  • EmotermanEmoterman Member Posts: 3,333
    dnc said:

    ntxduck said:

    Don't worry 2021 will be special. The spin here is hilarious, 'air raid lineman' lol. This is some coug shit


    "Honestly, you have to know our depth chart before we can have an actual conversation"
    "How many are Air Raid lineman? Look at where they are from. It's not simple."

    I didn't realize there's a difference between Air Raid lineman, and lineman that are good at pass blocking.
    Air Raid lineman don't need to run block and only need to hold their pass blocks for like 1.5 seconds.

    This leads to amazing PFF grades and All America hype before drunkenly stumbling through drills and going undrafted.
  • whatshouldicareaboutwhatshouldicareabout Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 12,759 Swaye's Wigwam
    Let's just take a moment to appreciate the fact that Helton is back for another rodeo in LA.

    And that we'll get another year of this thread.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,093 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
  • AtomicDawgAtomicDawg Member Posts: 7,093 Standard Supporter
    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
  • haiehaie Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 21,900 Swaye's Wigwam
    edited December 2019

    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
    I'm going to lipo with him. Again, softest division in college football and he found a quarterback pretty quickly. He may be relying on freshman but SC doesn't look like they'll do shit next year and have you seen UteMW with freshmen? 2017 season incoming for them.

    UCLA was in play for most of the season in that division.
  • haie said:

    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
    I'm going to lipo with him. Again, softest division in college football and he found a quarterback pretty quickly. He may be relying on freshman but SC doesn't look like they'll do shit next year and have you seen UteMW with freshmen? 2017 season incoming for them.

    UCLA was in play for most of the season in that division.
    UCLA improved at the end of the season. They could be a sneaky south pick next year.
  • Pitchfork51Pitchfork51 Member Posts: 26,980

    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
    We're relying on 4 blue chip WRs to fill 1-2 spots and 2 new RBs to fill 1.

    Maybe 1 D guy at LB in the rotation. Maybe another RS freshman on the DL.
    The least amount in some time.

    This year we had 2 freshmen on the OL and a freshmen qb. With a bad OC.
    I thought it'd be iffy we make a bowl once 2 OL went down before the season.

    I'd argue were relatively veteran next year.
    No seniors but lots of JRs and sophs.

  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,848 Swaye's Wigwam

    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
    We're relying on 4 blue chip WRs to fill 1-2 spots and 2 new RBs to fill 1.

    Maybe 1 D guy at LB in the rotation. Maybe another RS freshman on the DL.
    The least amount in some time.

    This year we had 2 freshmen on the OL and a freshmen qb. With a bad OC.
    I thought it'd be iffy we make a bowl once 2 OL went down before the season.

    I'd argue were relatively veteran next year.
    No seniors but lots of JRs and sophs.

    We?
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    They just keep adding tires to the fire

    Should be great for morale. A hired gun by the AD that has to work with the coaches already in place. Good luck with that SC.
  • RoadDawg55RoadDawg55 Member Posts: 30,123

    haie said:

    haie said:

    God the South is such a fucking embarrassment. Truly the worst division in college football. Another tuff MWesttingham sqwad comes out of it next year.

    Herm is their only hope right now.

    Herm is not hope.
    He lost the South in 2018 with a random loss but otherwise beat his direct opponents.

    2019 he couldn't pull it off but still handed the conference champs their only loss.

    If not him then who.
    He is 10-10 in conference and pinning a ton of hope on freshmen next year. Utah or usc will be representing the south next year. Asu has gotten worse since herm got there if you look closer.
    Only thing that ASU really has going for them is Daniels. He looked really good for a true freshman. The rest of the program is nothing special at all. Graham’s best teams were quite a bit better than both Herm’s. Graham’s 2017 team might have even been better.
  • theknowledgetheknowledge Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 4,949 Founders Club
    You can make an argument that Herms first two years parallel Petermans. He started and played a lot of freshman in his first two years including a true frosh QB in year two. If he blows up and ASU takes a shitty South with 10-11 wins then he is probably going to have a nice run in the desert. If they win 7-8 again then he is what he is. Year three, as in most cases will be telling. I just wish the national media would stop harping on his big turn around at ASU. He has won 7 and 8 games. Graham got fired for winning 7 and 8 games, not competing for South titles and of course, being illiterate.
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