Renewable Energy Is Now The Cheapest Option - Even Without Subsidies
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Communist!
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Option for what?
Hit and run and hide little boy -
Yeah but dead birds.
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Lots of dead birds
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Read this report a little while back...there is some stupid in it that gets taken to the extreme by folks that don't know/understand it that its kinda sad. But what should you expect from the International Renewable Energy Agency.
One simple question...which do you think lasts much, much longer and costs much, much less to maintain. A single natural gas fired electricity plant that generates 500MW of power or 350 onshore wind turbines covering about 260 acres. I seemed to have missed that cost in the economics above...
Not to mention the asset utilization rates (i.e. when does it produce) and all sorts of other fun stuff... -
Depends. Can you include the costs of the destruction of the environment and pollution from the natural gas fired plant?HoustonHusky said:Read this report a little while back...there is some stupid in it that gets taken to the extreme by folks that don't know/understand it that its kinda sad. But what should you expect from the International Renewable Energy Agency.
One simple question...which do you think lasts much, much longer and costs much, much less to maintain. A single natural gas fired electricity plant that generates 500MW of power or 350 onshore wind turbines covering about 260 acres. I seemed to have missed that cost in the economics above...
Not to mention the asset utilization rates (i.e. when does it produce) and all sorts of other fun stuff... -
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Pollution? Versus what...killing at least a half a million birds a year that windmills are expected to kill, the 2 years equivalent of coal burned to make each solar panel in China, or the silicon tetrachloride and hydrofluoric acid they like to dump in their rivers and the environment from their manufacture and maintenance? Just curious what we are allowed to include and not include...2001400ex said:
Depends. Can you include the costs of the destruction of the environment and pollution from the natural gas fired plant?HoustonHusky said:Read this report a little while back...there is some stupid in it that gets taken to the extreme by folks that don't know/understand it that its kinda sad. But what should you expect from the International Renewable Energy Agency.
One simple question...which do you think lasts much, much longer and costs much, much less to maintain. A single natural gas fired electricity plant that generates 500MW of power or 350 onshore wind turbines covering about 260 acres. I seemed to have missed that cost in the economics above...
Not to mention the asset utilization rates (i.e. when does it produce) and all sorts of other fun stuff...
HondoFS...
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The serious answer is all of them. External costs should never be ignored.HoustonHusky said:
Pollution? Versus what...killing at least a half a million birds a year that windmills are expected to kill, the 2 years equivalent of coal burned to make each solar panel in China, or the silicon tetrachloride and hydrofluoric acid they like to dump in their rivers and the environment from their manufacture and maintenance? Just curious what we are allowed to include and not include...2001400ex said:
Depends. Can you include the costs of the destruction of the environment and pollution from the natural gas fired plant?HoustonHusky said:Read this report a little while back...there is some stupid in it that gets taken to the extreme by folks that don't know/understand it that its kinda sad. But what should you expect from the International Renewable Energy Agency.
One simple question...which do you think lasts much, much longer and costs much, much less to maintain. A single natural gas fired electricity plant that generates 500MW of power or 350 onshore wind turbines covering about 260 acres. I seemed to have missed that cost in the economics above...
Not to mention the asset utilization rates (i.e. when does it produce) and all sorts of other fun stuff...
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This. Yes include it all. Then get back to us on the costs for both sides.GreenRiverGatorz said:
The serious answer is all of them. External costs should never be ignored.HoustonHusky said:
Pollution? Versus what...killing at least a half a million birds a year that windmills are expected to kill, the 2 years equivalent of coal burned to make each solar panel in China, or the silicon tetrachloride and hydrofluoric acid they like to dump in their rivers and the environment from their manufacture and maintenance? Just curious what we are allowed to include and not include...2001400ex said:
Depends. Can you include the costs of the destruction of the environment and pollution from the natural gas fired plant?HoustonHusky said:Read this report a little while back...there is some stupid in it that gets taken to the extreme by folks that don't know/understand it that its kinda sad. But what should you expect from the International Renewable Energy Agency.
One simple question...which do you think lasts much, much longer and costs much, much less to maintain. A single natural gas fired electricity plant that generates 500MW of power or 350 onshore wind turbines covering about 260 acres. I seemed to have missed that cost in the economics above...
Not to mention the asset utilization rates (i.e. when does it produce) and all sorts of other fun stuff...
HondoFS...
