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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,776
    SFGbob said:

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    Trump . . . is an inarticulate boob.
    This is a defense of the POTUS. New normal.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    Trump . . . is an inarticulate boob.
    This is a defense of the POTUS. New normal.
    Unlike you and the Jihad Squad, I can be critical of Trump.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731

    Trump would tell Bernie to go back to the Soviet Union rather easily

    The Squad loves to use their labels on themselves. First PLO congresswoman, first terrorist congresswoman, first Brooklyn congresswoman etc and etc

    He should have singled out Omar and let her have it. This country brought her in, gave her a new life and elected her to Congress and she does nothing but trash it and the Jews that run it. Little humor there

    She's a terrorist sympathizer and she can cry all she wants about racism and that isn't going to change

    Agree, Omar's the worst of the bunch.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219
    SFGbob said:

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    Trump could have said it in a more articulate manner but he is an inarticulate boob. Still doesn't mean that what he said was racist and calling out the Jihad Squad was something that needed to be done. I'm just happy the entire party is now embracing them. If the White German dudes were pushing Marxism and anti-Semitism I can easily see Trump making the same statements.
    I generally agree with that.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club
    Well at this point I think a lot more people know the Squad and what they stand for and now see the Pelosi wing embracing them and the media loving them, all of which........wait for it......

    Helps Trump IMO
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,213
    dnc said:

    Trump would tell Bernie to go back to the Soviet Union rather easily

    The Squad loves to use their labels on themselves. First PLO congresswoman, first terrorist congresswoman, first Brooklyn congresswoman etc and etc

    He should have singled out Omar and let her have it. This country brought her in, gave her a new life and elected her to Congress and she does nothing but trash it and the Jews that run it. Little humor there

    She's a terrorist sympathizer and she can cry all she wants about racism and that isn't going to change

    Agree, Omar's the worst of the bunch.
    A little gratitude toward the country that rescued you and your brother marrying ass and your entire family would be appreciated and if you can't do that shut the fuck up.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    It was Nationalist AF. And that’s what his supporters want. I’m not a love-it, or leave-it person, but I think it’s fair rhetoric for a snotty ungrateful little cunt like Omar who constantly bashes the country that saved her ass from certain miserable death. That’s who Trump was aimed at, primarily, because she’s been the worst offender. Tlaib has referred to Palestine as “where her family is from” and Palestinians “my people” hundreds of times, so the confusion on that is excusable. I don’t think Trump gives two shits about AOC, and her mistakes and lies make her fair game, too.

    Lots of centrists agreed with the Shithole countries comments too, as harsh as they may seem. Everything bad that happens in the third world countries is not the fault of the US. The corruption, nepotism, drugs, violence, poverty and pollution in many of those war-torn places make them shitholes, with or without anything the US does. So if they continue to play that card, they’re doomed to failure.

    51 hours, and counting. Tick-Tock.
  • dncdnc Member Posts: 56,731
    edited July 2019
    SFGbob said:

    dnc said:

    Trump would tell Bernie to go back to the Soviet Union rather easily

    The Squad loves to use their labels on themselves. First PLO congresswoman, first terrorist congresswoman, first Brooklyn congresswoman etc and etc

    He should have singled out Omar and let her have it. This country brought her in, gave her a new life and elected her to Congress and she does nothing but trash it and the Jews that run it. Little humor there

    She's a terrorist sympathizer and she can cry all she wants about racism and that isn't going to change

    Agree, Omar's the worst of the bunch.
    A little gratitude toward the country that rescued you and your brother marrying ass and your entire family would be appreciated and if you can't do that shut the fuck up.
    I honestly don't disagree.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    It was Nationalist AF. And that’s what his supporters want. I’m not a love-it, or leave-it person, but I think it’s fair rhetoric for a snotty ungrateful little cunt like Omar who constantly bashes the country that saved her ass from certain miserable death. That’s who Trump was aimed at, primarily, because she’s been the worst offender. Tlaib has referred to Palestine as “where her family is from” and Palestinians “my people” hundreds of times, so the confusion on that is excusable. I don’t think Trump gives two shits about AOC, and her mistakes and lies make her fair game, too.

    Lots of centrists agreed with the Shithole countries comments too, as harsh as they may seem. Everything bad that happens in the third world countries is not the fault of the US. The corruption, nepotism, drugs, violence, poverty and pollution in many of those war-torn places make them shitholes, with or without anything the US does. So if they continue to play that card, they’re doomed to failure.

    51 hours, and counting. Tick-Tock.
    I don't disagree. Like others, I think he could have been more clever and used a different phrase with less historical loading. His most ardent fans would have been just as pleased if he'd just told them they're stupid and to fuck off.
  • oregonblitzkriegoregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    Rashida Tlaib is always talking about Palestine. Telling her to go back is valid.

    Omar is a moslem transplant. Telling her to go back to her own country is valid.

    AOC is a socialist pig. Telling her to go to Venezuela or to Pol Pot's Cambodia is perfectly valid.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,822 Founders Club

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    It was Nationalist AF. And that’s what his supporters want. I’m not a love-it, or leave-it person, but I think it’s fair rhetoric for a snotty ungrateful little cunt like Omar who constantly bashes the country that saved her ass from certain miserable death. That’s who Trump was aimed at, primarily, because she’s been the worst offender. Tlaib has referred to Palestine as “where her family is from” and Palestinians “my people” hundreds of times, so the confusion on that is excusable. I don’t think Trump gives two shits about AOC, and her mistakes and lies make her fair game, too.

    Lots of centrists agreed with the Shithole countries comments too, as harsh as they may seem. Everything bad that happens in the third world countries is not the fault of the US. The corruption, nepotism, drugs, violence, poverty and pollution in many of those war-torn places make them shitholes, with or without anything the US does. So if they continue to play that card, they’re doomed to failure.

    51 hours, and counting. Tick-Tock.
    I don't disagree. Like others, I think he could have been more clever and used a different phrase with less historical loading. His most ardent fans would have been just as pleased if he'd just told them they're stupid and to fuck off.
    We need to get to the point where everyone just says fuck off

    Save alot of time
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 23,219

    The thing about this thread is that it's been made more black and white than it need be.

    I think most people who aren't complete fucking imbeciles would say that Trump's comment was at least ill-advised, if not outright stupid. It's the very kind of comment that would alienate a centrist supporter because it at least smacks of xenophobia.

    Otherwise, it's just another ringing of the bell of nationalism. While nationalism can often include race-based components, they are not mutually inclusive.

    If they'd been white men from Germany and he said "go back to where you came from" we wouldn't be talking about this. Would he say that to a bunch of white German dudes? Probably not.

    There's little doubt in my mind that Trump harbors some racial shit in his mind due to his age alone. If we're being honest, it's very, very common, including among minority groups. But that suspicion doesn't magically transform what he said into racism.

    It was Nationalist AF. And that’s what his supporters want. I’m not a love-it, or leave-it person, but I think it’s fair rhetoric for a snotty ungrateful little cunt like Omar who constantly bashes the country that saved her ass from certain miserable death. That’s who Trump was aimed at, primarily, because she’s been the worst offender. Tlaib has referred to Palestine as “where her family is from” and Palestinians “my people” hundreds of times, so the confusion on that is excusable. I don’t think Trump gives two shits about AOC, and her mistakes and lies make her fair game, too.

    Lots of centrists agreed with the Shithole countries comments too, as harsh as they may seem. Everything bad that happens in the third world countries is not the fault of the US. The corruption, nepotism, drugs, violence, poverty and pollution in many of those war-torn places make them shitholes, with or without anything the US does. So if they continue to play that card, they’re doomed to failure.

    51 hours, and counting. Tick-Tock.
    I don't disagree. Like others, I think he could have been more clever and used a different phrase with less historical loading. His most ardent fans would have been just as pleased if he'd just told them they're stupid and to fuck off.
    We need to get to the point where everyone just says fuck off

    Save alot of time
    I wonder if Derek can export his Vanilla technology to Congress and the Executive Branch, and all people would be able to do is up vote, not-your-best-effort vote, fuck off vote, or chin.

    It would clear up a lot.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    Sledog said:


    In all fairness, this should have about 30 chins.
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,776
    edited July 2019


    “In all fairness, this should have about 30 chins.”

    Like Daddy.
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:



    “In all fairness, this should have about 30 chins.”

    Like Daddy.

    Your daddy has 30 chins? Sad.

    How many on your other dad?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,776
    edited July 2019

    HHusky said:



    “In all fairness, this should have about 30 chins.”

    Like Daddy.

    Your daddy has 30 chins? Sad.

    How many on your other dad?

  • PurpleThrobberPurpleThrobber Member Posts: 44,178 Standard Supporter
    The Squad has figured out that they can say or do whatever the fuck they want to get a rise out of Trump. Then when Trump rails back at their insane stances, the rest of the Trump haters rally to their defense.

    Doesn't negate their insane politics or extreme, dare I say, anti-American positions - it just gives them shade against the big bad orange POTUS. Then they go right back and say whatever the fuck insane bullshit they want.

    Trump needs to get this place dialed in - LEAVE! GTFO! DIAFF would be way better responses with no racial overtones - except the DIAFF might upset some Vietnamese Buddhist priests.




  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,965 Standard Supporter

    The Squad has figured out that they can say or do whatever the fuck they want to get a rise out of Trump. Then when Trump rails back at their insane stances, the rest of the Trump haters rally to their defense.

    Doesn't negate their insane politics or extreme, dare I say, anti-American positions - it just gives them shade against the big bad orange POTUS. Then they go right back and say whatever the fuck insane bullshit they want.

    Trump needs to get this place dialed in - LEAVE! GTFO! DIAFF would be way better responses with no racial overtones - except the DIAFF might upset some Vietnamese Buddhist priests.

    Nah. Their’s is DIAPF, where P is for Petrol.
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,859 Standard Supporter

    The Squad has figured out that they can say or do whatever the fuck they want to get a rise out of Trump. Then when Trump rails back at their insane stances, the rest of the Trump haters rally to their defense.

    Doesn't negate their insane politics or extreme, dare I say, anti-American positions - it just gives them shade against the big bad orange POTUS. Then they go right back and say whatever the fuck insane bullshit they want.

    Trump needs to get this place dialed in - LEAVE! GTFO! DIAFF would be way better responses with no racial overtones - except the DIAFF might upset some Vietnamese Buddhist priests.




    Democrat calling the "Squad" socialists. They're going to eat each other. Win Win!

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/henry-cuellar-ocasio-cortez-democrats-squad-socialists
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