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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    California already has immigration policies in place to make it a Mexican dominated state, where Mexicans are set to become the majority. Allowing Mexico to annex it would only be a natural progression of events.

    You should sponsor this idea publicly. Build a constituency. This has legs for an “ideas guy” and policy maven such as yourself.
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  • Woof
    Woof Member Posts: 770
    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

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    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    creepycoug said:

    SFGbob said:

    The people aren't as dumb as you think they are and you're not a smart as you think you are Coug. It all balances out.

    How smart do you think I think I am?

    I thought mind reading was off limits here.

    It has been said that good indicators of intelligence are the ability to listen and compromise and to be reasonable; and the humility to know you don't know everything, to ask questions and to admit when you have got it wrong or learned something.

    If the person who said that was right, it doesn't bode too well for you; although I have a fighter's chance.
    As I've already told you, I don't need to read your mind in order to know that you think you're much brighter than you really are.
    As I've already responded, yes you do. Otherwise you're just grabbing your dick and whistling in the wind. I could say the very same thing about you, except that it's a stupid charge, so I don't.

    Or do you think that you don't come off as a pedantic prick?
    Dude, all I need to do is read your overly wordy responses to know you're a guy who loves the sound of his own voice and you think you're smarter than you really are.
    Dude, no, it's not all you need to do. You profess to know how smart I think I am. So you're a mind reader.

    Again, I could say the same exact thing about you.

    All I need to do is watch how you occupy the Tug everyday, lining up baited thread after baited thread, all day every day, and arguing to 20th page and beyond if necessary to get the last word and demonstrate how much more you know than all but a few of your supporting cast and how masterful you are at debating and exposing all these idiot liberals.

    That, and your constant need to be right and your apparent incapacity to see your own bias in every angle you take, is all I need to know that you think you're much brighter than you actually are.
    The thing is, I'm not that bright. I'm just smarter than you. You exposed yourself with your "the Christian right might do something!!!!" Don't feel bad, you're smarter than Hondo, El Monte, Owl and Flea. You're just not as bright as you think you are.
    Not a very good response mind reader. How exactly did that "expose" my intelligence? We've been through this. Anti-American muslim women and transgender athletes and Gaia worshiping hippies don't interfere in my life at all. But if I wanted an abortion in Alabama or Georgia at this very point in history, my style has now been severely cramped. Abortion is about as in personam as it gets. While you're worried about people not loving America sufficiently, I'm worried about the Bible belt denying people the right to manage themselves as they see fit. Pretty fucking intrusive from where I sit.

    Maybe this is your exposure and you're just confused?
    But, but the Christian right might do something!!!!!!
    I see that you've chosen to yield. I guess I'll take that one comment back in light of your commitment to personal improvement.

    Transgender Athletes man!!
    Yes, I've "yielded" to the fact that you intentionally limit my examples of the Religious Left impacting my life in ways far greater then your inability to get an abortion in Georgia because you're a dishonest hack who isn't as bright as you feel you are.
    I thought we weren't supposed to emote. Are you emoting now?

    My rhetoric is no more rhetorical than your rhetoric my pedantic prince.

    You would never take selective liberty with my comments for rhetorical purposes eh? Christians might do something! That my example directly conflicts with your picture of quite Christians worshiping in peace and minding their own business is just what it is. Facts, not feelings. Christians did do something, and are hard at work to do more. In personam juristiction. Up close and personal. Some goofy muslim broad in Minnesota doesn't interfere in my life at all.

    State mandated counseling. Shocking that you'd support this.
    Yes, yes because only Christians oppose abortion.
    You seriously doubt that those who think abortion should be illegal in all circumstances are overwhelmingly Christian?
    Try to think of another great religion that is tossing gays off of buildings and thinks women are property and see if you can imagine
    I know you don't actually care to debate this, but what you laid out is nearly true for predominantly Christian Uganda.

    They passed a law in 2013 - overturned on a technicality at the Supreme Court - to be able to apply the death penalty for LGBT individuals. Now it's only life in prison. A list of the top 100 most prominent gay people to be executed was published by a tabloid, and one of them was subsequently beaten to death with a hammer. A bunch of US "Christian" pastors have been supporting these laws both vocally and behind the scenes, and lawmakers told everyone the law was a "Christmas present" to the country.

    There are some weird laws pertaining to women, including the fact that they can't really own property which makes them more like second class citizens.
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  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    No theocracy. No secular theocracy. America as it was intended to be, the constitutional republic that was created by the founders, where illegal aliens have no rights, except the right to be swiftly deported at the expense of their own country.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    No theocracy. No secular theocracy. America as it was intended to be, the constitutional republic that was created by the founders, where illegal aliens have no rights, except the right to be swiftly deported at the expense of their own country.

    I think we can all agree that trump has failed miserably at recognizing and implementing policies to reflect these facts.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    The state of Alabama (as well as every other state) should have the right to decide its own trajectory on social issues, not 9 un-elected, black robed individuals in DC. If you live in Alabama and want to get an abortion, I'm sure there are plenty of back alleys, or travel to another state that allows it, like Virginia, a state with a democrat governor that supports killing babies post birth. Otherwise, use a condom, take the pill, or just don't have sex if you don't want babies. Don't like it, you're free to move.

    They should up to the point of federal constitutional limits. As in, we decided they? weren't free to enslave people even if they felt like doing it.

    If you mean that we should disregard the constitution and the people charged with applying it, and disband the union, then that should be another thread.
    @CirrhosisDawg
    I agree with creepy.
    If you are whining again about California sanctuary state laws, they have been approved by district and appeal courts (with noted funding repercussions based on administration funding policies). Trumptards need to head to the border and the jails on their own dime if they want to enforce the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws. You’ll get no help from CA taxpayers or law enforcement. It’s called federalism. It’s all legal.

    I support the original principles of the US constitution. If this is not workable, then that’s the subject of another thread as creepy said.
    “White nationalists immigration laws.” What a clown. Have you asked a single Asian immigrant their opinion on this subject? Of course not. You’d have to know one to do that.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    The state of Alabama (as well as every other state) should have the right to decide its own trajectory on social issues, not 9 un-elected, black robed individuals in DC. If you live in Alabama and want to get an abortion, I'm sure there are plenty of back alleys, or travel to another state that allows it, like Virginia, a state with a democrat governor that supports killing babies post birth. Otherwise, use a condom, take the pill, or just don't have sex if you don't want babies. Don't like it, you're free to move.

    They should up to the point of federal constitutional limits. As in, we decided they? weren't free to enslave people even if they felt like doing it.

    If you mean that we should disregard the constitution and the people charged with applying it, and disband the union, then that should be another thread.
    @CirrhosisDawg
    I agree with creepy.
    If you are whining again about California sanctuary state laws, they have been approved by district and appeal courts (with noted funding repercussions based on administration funding policies). Trumptards need to head to the border and the jails on their own dime if they want to enforce the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws. You’ll get no help from CA taxpayers or law enforcement. It’s called federalism. It’s all legal.

    I support the original principles of the US constitution. If this is not workable, then that’s the subject of another thread as creepy said.
    “White nationalists immigration laws.” What a clown. Have you asked a single Asian immigrant their opinion on this subject? Of course not. You’d have to know one to do that.
    TurdbufferFS knows Asians who think that the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws can be enforced. CSB.
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  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    The state of Alabama (as well as every other state) should have the right to decide its own trajectory on social issues, not 9 un-elected, black robed individuals in DC. If you live in Alabama and want to get an abortion, I'm sure there are plenty of back alleys, or travel to another state that allows it, like Virginia, a state with a democrat governor that supports killing babies post birth. Otherwise, use a condom, take the pill, or just don't have sex if you don't want babies. Don't like it, you're free to move.

    They should up to the point of federal constitutional limits. As in, we decided they? weren't free to enslave people even if they felt like doing it.

    If you mean that we should disregard the constitution and the people charged with applying it, and disband the union, then that should be another thread.
    @CirrhosisDawg
    I agree with creepy.
    If you are whining again about California sanctuary state laws, they have been approved by district and appeal courts (with noted funding repercussions based on administration funding policies). Trumptards need to head to the border and the jails on their own dime if they want to enforce the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws. You’ll get no help from CA taxpayers or law enforcement. It’s called federalism. It’s all legal.

    I support the original principles of the US constitution. If this is not workable, then that’s the subject of another thread as creepy said.
    “White nationalists immigration laws.” What a clown. Have you asked a single Asian immigrant their opinion on this subject? Of course not. You’d have to know one to do that.
    TurdbufferFS knows Asians who think that the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws can be enforced. CSB.
    LowIQCirrho obviously doesn’t know many Asians. Or Jews. Or Blacks.
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    The state of Alabama (as well as every other state) should have the right to decide its own trajectory on social issues, not 9 un-elected, black robed individuals in DC. If you live in Alabama and want to get an abortion, I'm sure there are plenty of back alleys, or travel to another state that allows it, like Virginia, a state with a democrat governor that supports killing babies post birth. Otherwise, use a condom, take the pill, or just don't have sex if you don't want babies. Don't like it, you're free to move.

    They should up to the point of federal constitutional limits. As in, we decided they? weren't free to enslave people even if they felt like doing it.

    If you mean that we should disregard the constitution and the people charged with applying it, and disband the union, then that should be another thread.
    @CirrhosisDawg
    I agree with creepy.
    If you are whining again about California sanctuary state laws, they have been approved by district and appeal courts (with noted funding repercussions based on administration funding policies). Trumptards need to head to the border and the jails on their own dime if they want to enforce the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws. You’ll get no help from CA taxpayers or law enforcement. It’s called federalism. It’s all legal.

    I support the original principles of the US constitution. If this is not workable, then that’s the subject of another thread as creepy said.
    “White nationalists immigration laws.” What a clown. Have you asked a single Asian immigrant their opinion on this subject? Of course not. You’d have to know one to do that.
    TurdbufferFS knows Asians who think that the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws can be enforced. CSB.
    LowIQCirrho obviously doesn’t know many Asians. Or Jews. Or Blacks.
    Do they have strong feelings about this issue like you?
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,553 Founders Club
    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    TurdBomber said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    creepycoug said:

    oregonblitzkrieg said:

    The state of Alabama (as well as every other state) should have the right to decide its own trajectory on social issues, not 9 un-elected, black robed individuals in DC. If you live in Alabama and want to get an abortion, I'm sure there are plenty of back alleys, or travel to another state that allows it, like Virginia, a state with a democrat governor that supports killing babies post birth. Otherwise, use a condom, take the pill, or just don't have sex if you don't want babies. Don't like it, you're free to move.

    They should up to the point of federal constitutional limits. As in, we decided they? weren't free to enslave people even if they felt like doing it.

    If you mean that we should disregard the constitution and the people charged with applying it, and disband the union, then that should be another thread.
    @CirrhosisDawg
    I agree with creepy.
    If you are whining again about California sanctuary state laws, they have been approved by district and appeal courts (with noted funding repercussions based on administration funding policies). Trumptards need to head to the border and the jails on their own dime if they want to enforce the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws. You’ll get no help from CA taxpayers or law enforcement. It’s called federalism. It’s all legal.

    I support the original principles of the US constitution. If this is not workable, then that’s the subject of another thread as creepy said.
    “White nationalists immigration laws.” What a clown. Have you asked a single Asian immigrant their opinion on this subject? Of course not. You’d have to know one to do that.
    TurdbufferFS knows Asians who think that the unenforceable white nationalist immigration laws can be enforced. CSB.
    LowIQCirrho obviously doesn’t know many Asians. Or Jews. Or Blacks.
    Yeah not many show up at his Klan meetings
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