It's a huge part of most leftard's goals. Hondo will lie about it because it's what leftards do. They desperately want conservatives unarmed. No AR-15s no 15 magazines for pistols. Amazingly I don't feel the need to lie about anything
Lot of idiotic projection in this thread. And Grundle you are smarter than that.
Smarter than what? An Illinois state senator said in the open that maybe they'd just confiscate AR-15s.
But you are projecting that on the rest of Democrats. That's like someone saying Roy Moore is a pedophile so all Republicans must be.
Horrible, just terrible analogy there. Personal failings <> political party platform planks.
I don't think ALL Democrats are in favor gun confiscation. I do think it's part of the ascendant progressive Democrats politicans.
Obviously the analogy was over the top. But the point remains. There is no larger plot or the "frog in the boiling water" to guns.
I don't know if you live in Washington. But look at all the fear that happened over the last gun bill a few years ago. They were saying that gun confiscation was next. That people were going to be arrested for leaving guns in their house or having a buddy shoot their gun. None of that shit happened.
I'm not a huge gun nut or Hunter. But the vast majority of my friends are. And the guns I have in my house rarely leave my house. So I truly support the second amendment. And you've been on this search to prove Democrats want to confiscate guns and all you've found is quotes from a couple Democrats over all these years. I could see your point if there was half the Senate Democrats or something. Has any presidential candidate said they were going to confiscate guns?
Before you say "well they want to confiscate guns, they just won't publicly announce it". Think about this, Democrats are on the stupid bus right now. Yet still, Effectively no one has said they are confiscating guns, because they know it's a loser issue.
Call when you leftards stop wanting my guns. Most guns in Chicago are illegal. Not like making guns illegal isn't on the leftard wish list.
Lefties don't want your guns. They want less dead people every year. HTH
Violence in general tends to improve over time naturally. Gun safety technogy improves over time as well. Most problems don't require a government solution.
Lot of idiotic projection in this thread. And Grundle you are smarter than that.
Smarter than what? An Illinois state senator said in the open that maybe they'd just confiscate AR-15s.
But you are projecting that on the rest of Democrats. That's like someone saying Roy Moore is a pedophile so all Republicans must be.
Horrible, just terrible analogy there. Personal failings <> political party platform planks.
I don't think ALL Democrats are in favor gun confiscation. I do think it's part of the ascendant progressive Democrats politicans.
Obviously the analogy was over the top. But the point remains. There is no larger plot or the "frog in the boiling water" to guns.
I don't know if you live in Washington. But look at all the fear that happened over the last gun bill a few years ago. They were saying that gun confiscation was next. That people were going to be arrested for leaving guns in their house or having a buddy shoot their gun. None of that shit happened.
I'm not a huge gun nut or Hunter. But the vast majority of my friends are. And the guns I have in my house rarely leave my house. So I truly support the second amendment. And you've been on this search to prove Democrats want to confiscate guns and all you've found is quotes from a couple Democrats over all these years. I could see your point if there was half the Senate Democrats or something. Has any presidential candidate said they were going to confiscate guns?
Before you say "well they want to confiscate guns, they just won't publicly announce it". Think about this, Democrats are on the stupid bus right now. Yet still, Effectively no one has said they are confiscating guns, because they know it's a loser issue.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
As soon as we get a written test and valid verified ID to vote and voters pass a written test, pay for registering each and every year, actually go to a polling place present a birth cert, proof of residency, proof of no criminal convictions, undergo a background check and pay a fee. Then you can exercise your right to vote.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
It's a good point. I think most gun accountability laws require you to have it kept in a safe at home while you're still free to carry it and leave it off your person when it public. If it gets stolen, your duty is to report that theft. Most state proposals I've seen absolve the gun owner of any liability if they promptly report it stolen. If a statute fails to build that in then it's a bad statute.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
It's a good point. I think most gun accountability laws require you to have it kept in a safe at home while you're still free to carry it and leave it off your person when it public. If it gets stolen, your duty is to report that theft. Most state proposals I've seen absolve the gun owner of any liability if they promptly report it stolen. If a statute fails to build that in then it's a bad statute.
To borrow legal language surrounding 1A to 2A, I think a chief intent of many of these laws is to have a chilling effect.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
It's a good point. I think most gun accountability laws require you to have it kept in a safe at home while you're still free to carry it and leave it off your person when it public. If it gets stolen, your duty is to report that theft. Most state proposals I've seen absolve the gun owner of any liability if they promptly report it stolen. If a statute fails to build that in then it's a bad statute.
To borrow legal language surrounding 1A to 2A, I think a chief intent of many of these laws is to have a chilling effect.
Maybe. To me it sounds like good policy. Now I don't know enough about the intents of the drafting lawmakers to speculate as to whether or not they're crafting these laws simply to scare people out of buying guns. I suppose it sounds plausible, but so does them drafting it just because it's good policy.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
We should have a tracker on you so we know where you are telling lies so we can inform people you're a liar. I don't care if they steal you.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
I think Hondo should cut off his dick to prevent rape.
Libs always wanting to punish the people who are not the problem!
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
We should have a tracker on you so we know where you are telling lies so we can inform people you're a liar. I don't care if they steal you.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
We should have a tracker on you so we know where you are telling lies so we can inform people you're a liar. I don't care if they steal you.
Shocking take from the resident super statist.
Yeah we should track everyone. Nope. I see humor escapes you.
But tracking individuals and their property is what was proposed. You're obviously good with that,
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
I don't think the accountability laws are the ultimate solution. I also don't see the need to carry a gun in my everyday life, especially just running kids to school. But you do you.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
I think Hondo should cut off his dick to prevent rape.
Libs always wanting to punish the people who are not the problem!
Sledog takes the discussion and turns it fucktarded as always.
The only way to stop gun violence is to work on improving inner city ghettoes
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
Then do you support measures that provide more accountability to legal gun owners? Measures that would assign liability to owners' whose guns end getting stolen or otherwise "misplaced" only to be used in ghetto violence? Surely that would help stem the endless supply of illegally obtained arms that flow into the ghettos.
Those accountability law proposals sound appealing to some with their sheen of pragmatism. But it’s kinda bizarre how that could play out legally. Here’s a scenario that plays out for me regularly: I have a CCP and often have a pistol with me. I also have school age children and thus on & off school grounds a lot, where carrying a weapon is prohibited. So I leave my gun in the locked car, out of sight. If someone were to break into my car and steal my gun and then do who knows with it, I’m the bad guy now?
It's a good point. I think most gun accountability laws require you to have it kept in a safe at home while you're still free to carry it and leave it off your person when it public. If it gets stolen, your duty is to report that theft. Most state proposals I've seen absolve the gun owner of any liability if they promptly report it stolen. If a statute fails to build that in then it's a bad statute.
To borrow legal language surrounding 1A to 2A, I think a chief intent of many of these laws is to have a chilling effect.
I guess the “chilling effect” bothers you if you think too few people are armed. I think too many are.
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I don't know if you live in Washington. But look at all the fear that happened over the last gun bill a few years ago. They were saying that gun confiscation was next. That people were going to be arrested for leaving guns in their house or having a buddy shoot their gun. None of that shit happened.
I'm not a huge gun nut or Hunter. But the vast majority of my friends are. And the guns I have in my house rarely leave my house. So I truly support the second amendment. And you've been on this search to prove Democrats want to confiscate guns and all you've found is quotes from a couple Democrats over all these years. I could see your point if there was half the Senate Democrats or something. Has any presidential candidate said they were going to confiscate guns?
Before you say "well they want to confiscate guns, they just won't publicly announce it". Think about this, Democrats are on the stupid bus right now. Yet still, Effectively no one has said they are confiscating guns, because they know it's a loser issue.
Liar.
Not taking them from rednecks you fucking dipshit hondo.
The left is only against guns because white people own most of them.
You'll be just like a gun buyer.
However, if, through technology, we could track your gun if it were stolen. Then catch the person who stole it, don't you think that would be a solution? Or what about a trigger lock tied to your fingerprints so only you can fire the gun? Again, I'm not the gun expert in any way, but I would hope people who are and the NRA could come up with solutions like that to reduce gun violence.
The overwhelming majority of gun violence is not from the crowd that's trained on and has respect for guns. It's generally from those that acquire guns through illegal means or legally with little to no training. I would support mandatory gun class in schools, like schools in areas with a lot of water require swimming.
Libs always wanting to punish the people who are not the problem!
But tracking individuals and their property is what was proposed. You're obviously good with that,