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Lincoln was a POS
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Interesting side note. Oregon had just become a state and voted Lincoln. It would make a better story if the slavery candidate I realize
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Just like today, the NYC Dems of Tammany Hall hated the blacks and voted against Lincoln. The Irish didn’t want the competition for low skilled jobs from the freed slaves.YellowSnow said:
Of course the cost to the treasury would have far more preferable than the war but that’s with the benefit of hindsight. Distaste for slavey was growing but not that much. Shit a hell of a lot of northern congress members voted against the 13th Ammendment even in 1865.MikeDamone said:
It was on it’s way out. Not just cotton picking machines. The industrial revolution was starting. The distaste for slavery was growing rapidly. You probably think child labor laws ended child labor....YellowSnow said:
What are you talking about relating to technology? Cotton was still picked by hand for like 100 years after the civil war. The southern sharecropping system in much of the 20th century didn’t look much different from slavery in terms of how the crop was planted and harvested.MikeDamone said:
Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.YellowSnow said:
Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?MikeDamone said:
It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.PurpleJ said:Sounds like Damone supports slavery.
England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
Additionally, you yourself in another thread implied to immense cost involved to the British treasury in emancipating just a few Caribbean slaves. And that this might have been unworkable on the scale needed in the US.
I’m not saying slavery would have lasted to well into the 20th century so don’t fucking twist. But it wasn’t anywhere close to being dead in 1860. Shit in Brazil it lasted till 1888.
Wouldn’t the cost to the treasury been preferable to a brutal war. The most costly and deadly in our history?
Timothy Egan has a good book called The Immortal Irishman that goes into great detail on immigration, the Irish and their role in the draft riots among other things.
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Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
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You oversimplify reality to the point of fiction. In dumb Trump speak you create fake news.Sledog said:Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
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Don’t be criticizing the Classic Comics history of the Civil War.ApostleofGrief said:
You oversimplify reality to the point of fiction. In dumb Trump speak you create fake news.Sledog said:Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
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pics?HHusky said:Just having fun. Had not used my late mother’s one liner in some time.
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No one needs you to ramble on trying to protect your Democrat hero's.HHusky said:
Don’t be criticizing the Classic Comics history of the Civil War.ApostleofGrief said:
You oversimplify reality to the point of fiction. In dumb Trump speak you create fake news.Sledog said:Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
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My family were founders of the Republican Party. I find you very amusing in a low brow way.Sledog said:
No one needs you to ramble on trying to protect your Democrat hero's.HHusky said:
Don’t be criticizing the Classic Comics history of the Civil War.ApostleofGrief said:
You oversimplify reality to the point of fiction. In dumb Trump speak you create fake news.Sledog said:Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
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I try to keep it simple.HHusky said:
My family were founders of the Republican Party. I find you very amusing in a low brow way.Sledog said:
No one needs you to ramble on trying to protect your Democrat hero's.HHusky said:
Don’t be criticizing the Classic Comics history of the Civil War.ApostleofGrief said:
You oversimplify reality to the point of fiction. In dumb Trump speak you create fake news.Sledog said:Republicans died to free slaves. Democrats died trying to keep slavery.
All anyone needs to know.
