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Lincoln was a POS

MikeDamone
MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
edited July 2019 in Tug Tavern
‪One of these men is a borderline tyrant that jailed the media and began a Civil War with antagonistic behavior towards the other side. The other is Donald Trump. ‬


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  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781




    To flush Lincoln.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?
  • GrundleStiltzkin
    GrundleStiltzkin Member Posts: 61,516 Standard Supporter

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    Andy Ngo was asking for it.
  • oregonblitzkrieg
    oregonblitzkrieg Member Posts: 15,288
    edited July 2019
    There's only one side, the central banks. Bankers, most of them foreign, still own and control the USA. The Civil War was just another banking war. America never really escaped British rule. America went to war against itself in order to preserve the wealth and power of the Rothschild banking cartel.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    There's only one side, the central banks. Bankers, most of them foreign, still own and control the USA. The Civil War was just another banking war. America never really escaped British rule. America went to war against itself in order to preserve the wealth and power of the Rothschild banking cartel.

    Court Jew
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    There's only one side, the central banks. Bankers, most of them foreign, still own and control the USA. The Civil War was just another banking war. America never really escaped British rule. America went to war against itself in order to preserve the wealth and power of the Rothschild banking cartel.

    America does crazy best!
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
    Of course I mind, butthole. Did half the Union just succeed? Haven’t read the news too much today other than TBS stuff.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    But he single handedly ended slavery!!!!!!1
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
    Of course I mind, butthole. Did half the Union just succeed? Haven’t read the news too much today other than TBS stuff.
    I don’t mind a little constitution trample if the means justify the end. What are you hiding?
    A gimp in my basement.
  • PurpleJ
    PurpleJ Member Posts: 37,643 Founders Club
    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,754 Standard Supporter

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
    Of course I mind, butthole. Did half the Union just succeed? Haven’t read the news too much today other than TBS stuff.
    I don’t mind a little constitution trample if the means justify the end. What are you hiding?
    A gimp in my basement.
    CD is in your basement?
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019
    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
    Of course I mind, butthole. Did half the Union just succeed? Haven’t read the news too much today other than TBS stuff.
    Nothing secedes like success.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    I have Yellow and AOG down for being good with jailing journalists. Anyone else?

    I’m good with a little trampling on the Constitution during REAL national emergencies like civil wars.

    If you have nothing to hide, you don’t mind if we search you home do you?
    Of course I mind, butthole. Did half the Union just succeed? Haven’t read the news too much today other than TBS stuff.
    Nothing secedes like success.
    I’m on my shitty iPhone bruh.
  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,898
    Just having fun. Had not used my late mother’s one liner in some time.

  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.

    The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.

    The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
    What are you talking about relating to technology? Cotton was still picked by hand for like 100 years after the civil war. The southern sharecropping system in much of the 20th century didn’t look much different from slavery in terms of how the crop was planted and harvested.

    Additionally, you yourself in another thread implied to immense cost involved to the British treasury in emancipating just a few Caribbean slaves. And that this might have been unworkable on the scale needed in the US.

    I’m not saying slavery would have lasted to well into the 20th century so don’t fucking twist. But it wasn’t anywhere close to being dead in 1860. Shit in Brazil it lasted till 1888.
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,072
    edited July 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    England was circling for a rematch of 1776 and was already supportive of the CSA. The limey textile mills needed the South’s cotton and their own de facto slaves.

    Honest Abe checkmated the moral high ground by bringing the Union wholly against slavery and in line with British public sentiment had they been forced to choose sides. It effectively took the Brits out of the picture for the remainder of the war.

  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.

    The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
    What are you talking about relating to technology? Cotton was still picked by hand for like 100 years after the civil war. The southern sharecropping system in much of the 20th century didn’t look much different from slavery in terms of how the crop was planted and harvested.

    Additionally, you yourself in another thread implied to immense cost involved to the British treasury in emancipating just a few Caribbean slaves. And that this might have been unworkable on the scale needed in the US.

    I’m not saying slavery would have lasted to well into the 20th century so don’t fucking twist. But it wasn’t anywhere close to being dead in 1860. Shit in Brazil it lasted till 1888.
    It was on it’s way out. Not just cotton picking machines. The industrial revolution was starting. The distaste for slavery was growing rapidly. You probably think child labor laws ended child labor....

    Wouldn’t the cost to the treasury been preferable to a brutal war. The most costly and deadly in our history?
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.

    The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
    What are you talking about relating to technology? Cotton was still picked by hand for like 100 years after the civil war. The southern sharecropping system in much of the 20th century didn’t look much different from slavery in terms of how the crop was planted and harvested.

    Additionally, you yourself in another thread implied to immense cost involved to the British treasury in emancipating just a few Caribbean slaves. And that this might have been unworkable on the scale needed in the US.

    I’m not saying slavery would have lasted to well into the 20th century so don’t fucking twist. But it wasn’t anywhere close to being dead in 1860. Shit in Brazil it lasted till 1888.
    It was on it’s way out. Not just cotton picking machines. The industrial revolution was starting. The distaste for slavery was growing rapidly. You probably think child labor laws ended child labor....

    Wouldn’t the cost to the treasury been preferable to a brutal war. The most costly and deadly in our history?
    Of course the cost to the treasury would have far more preferable than the war but that’s with the benefit of hindsight. Distaste for slavey was growing but not that much. Shit a hell of a lot of northern congress members voted against the 13th Ammendment even in 1865.
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
    edited July 2019

    PurpleJ said:

    Sounds like Damone supports slavery.

    It was on it’s way out, Lincoln or no Lincoln.

    England needed it 37 years earlier with no war.
    Huh? Lincoln and the Republican Party only wanted to stop spread of slavery and had no plans to eliminate where it already existed. He even said he would have kept slavery to preserve the Union. And they still seceded in spite of this and then proceeded to start the war by firing on federal property. So what makes you think it was on the way out in 1860?

    Technology was ending it rapidly. Are you suggesting that without Lincoln slavery Wouk seems still exist ? England ended it 3 decades sooner. It was on its last legs.

    The emancipation proclamation had no authority in the south.
    What are you talking about relating to technology? Cotton was still picked by hand for like 100 years after the civil war. The southern sharecropping system in much of the 20th century didn’t look much different from slavery in terms of how the crop was planted and harvested.

    Additionally, you yourself in another thread implied to immense cost involved to the British treasury in emancipating just a few Caribbean slaves. And that this might have been unworkable on the scale needed in the US.

    I’m not saying slavery would have lasted to well into the 20th century so don’t fucking twist. But it wasn’t anywhere close to being dead in 1860. Shit in Brazil it lasted till 1888.
    It was on it’s way out. Not just cotton picking machines. The industrial revolution was starting. The distaste for slavery was growing rapidly. You probably think child labor laws ended child labor....

    Wouldn’t the cost to the treasury been preferable to a brutal war. The most costly and deadly in our history?
    Of course the cost to the treasury would have far more preferable than the war but that’s with the benefit of hindsight. Distaste for slavey was growing but not that much. Shit a hell of a lot of northern congress members voted against the 13th Ammendment even in 1865.
    Sounds like the Democrats and HondoBros voting against the civil rights act of 1964.

    Violating a person’s natural rights is never ok. Ever. Under any circumstances
  • YellowSnow
    YellowSnow Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 37,268 Founders Club
    edited July 2019
    So how about this emergency plunger gasket thingy they have in Korea? I can think of a few times this would have come in handy?
  • ApostleofGrief
    ApostleofGrief Member Posts: 3,904
    The South never gave Lincoln a chance even though he made a point of not interfering in slavery status quo. Damone s argument is defective. For one thing, slavery was not being eclipsed at all ...the South wanted to keep it going west!
  • MikeDamone
    MikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781

    The South never gave Lincoln a chance even though he made a point of not interfering in slavery status quo. Damone s argument is defective. For one thing, slavery was not being eclipsed at all ...the South wanted to keep it going west!

    Wanted to. Wouldn’t have.