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This is from your article. You are making my point for me Mike.MikeDamone said:
And as predicted, the wage growth and employment numbers anger you.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
Eat shit. Shit for brains.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/business/economy/income-tax-cut.amp.html
Why Don’t People Believe It?
The tax savings were relatively small for many families, however. The middle fifth of earners got about a $780 tax cut last year on average, according to the Tax Policy Center.
Most Americans would probably welcome a $780 windfall. But in contrast to 2001, when President George W. Bush’s Treasury Department mailed rebate checks to taxpayers, last year’s tax cuts showed up mostly in the form of lower withholding from workers’ paychecks. A few extra dollars in a biweekly paycheck proved easy to miss. Moreover, as taxpayers filed their returns, many found they were due smaller refunds than in the past, which may have further skewed perceptions of the law.
That being said. Nothing shows economic growth is greater than if we didn't do the tax cut. -
SFGbob said:
A vast majority of the tax cut went to the people who pay a vast majority of the taxes. The horror
Bob again defaults to the simplistic conservative talking point. And ignores reality. -
I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot. -
Isn't this where as con should chime in with that's barely enough to cover population growth and the labor participation rate is at a 40 year low.MikeDamone said:
This was a good jobs report and what we've come to expect over the last 10 years. -
And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.HustlinOwl said:
I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot. -
Imagine not have a basic understanding of economics and thinking “trickle down theory” exists in economics.2001400ex said:
And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.HustlinOwl said:
I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
Imagine being angry about the best economic growth in over 10 years, low unemployment and rising wages. Not to mention the stock market at an all time high, booting tens of millions of middle class retirement accounts -
Trickle down theory exists to con the working class into supporting tax cuts for the wealthy. And tens of millions of conservatives are dumb enough to believe it.MikeDamone said:
Imagine not have a basic understanding of economics and thinking “trickle down theory” exists in economics.2001400ex said:
And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.HustlinOwl said:
I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
Imagine being angry about the best economic growth in over 10 years, low unemployment and rising wages. Not to mention the stock market at an all time high, booting tens of millions of middle class retirement accounts
I'm not angry about job growth you idiot. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the tax cuts. Although I chuckle when shitdicks like you blasted the labor participation rate under Obama. And ignored unemployment, job growth, and the stock market. -
SFGbob said:
I've stated it multiple times. Including a couple times in this thread. I can't force you to understand. -
I never blasted the labor participation rate you lying sack of shit.2001400ex said:
Trickle down theory exists to con the working class into supporting tax cuts for the wealthy. And tens of millions of conservatives are dumb enough to believe it.MikeDamone said:
Imagine not have a basic understanding of economics and thinking “trickle down theory” exists in economics.2001400ex said:
And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.HustlinOwl said:
I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.2001400ex said:
Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.MikeDamone said:
The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.2001400ex said:
The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.SFGbob said:
Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.2001400ex said:
I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.MikeDamone said:
Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.2001400ex said:
Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.MikeDamone said:
If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?2001400ex said:
The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?MikeDamone said:
Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.2001400ex said:
Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.MikeDamone said:
So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....2001400ex said:
That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.MikeDamone said:
Neither has happened. As always.
Keep beating that retarded drum retard.
Keep lying...
Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.
If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
Imagine being angry about the best economic growth in over 10 years, low unemployment and rising wages. Not to mention the stock market at an all time high, booting tens of millions of middle class retirement accounts
I'm not angry about job growth you idiot. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the tax cuts. Although I chuckle when shitdicks like you blasted the labor participation rate under Obama. And ignored unemployment, job growth, and the stock market.
So angry about the economy, just as I predicted.
Tickle down is a made up political term used to rile up useful idiots like you. It doesn’t exist in economics. -
Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
That’s why I started the thread. I knew he’d flop around, say ignorant shit (trickle down 😂 ) and make and ass of himself as usual.RaceBannon said:Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
That’s just your GOP talking pointsMikeDamone said:
That’s why I started the thread. I knew he’d flop around, say ignorant shit (trickle down 😂 ) and make and ass of himself as usual.RaceBannon said:Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
Ok! Your ignorance is amazing.MikeDamone said:
That’s why I started the thread. I knew he’d flop around, say ignorant shit (trickle down 😂 ) and make and ass of himself as usual.RaceBannon said:Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
What would be the proper term? Supply side economics? Some would call you a moron and others an idiot. Both would be correct, but the terminology is different.MikeDamone said:
That’s why I started the thread. I knew he’d flop around, say ignorant shit (trickle down 😂 ) and make and ass of himself as usual.RaceBannon said:Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
How about a rising tide lifts all boats. Which fascist conservative made this phrase famous?
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I’ll take that as a compliment from a retard who won’t take the time read even the most basic economic texts.2001400ex said:
Ok! Your ignorance is amazing.MikeDamone said:
That’s why I started the thread. I knew he’d flop around, say ignorant shit (trickle down 😂 ) and make and ass of himself as usual.RaceBannon said:Hondo has lied about the tax cuts since day 1
Now he's melting down. Bigly -
Simple question for the Hondo Bros. Did the tax cuts help the economy, hurt or make no difference?
Cue the Kunt act -
I’ll save everyone some time:SFGbob said:Simple question for the Hondo Bros. Did the tax cuts help the economy, hurt or make no difference?
Cue the Kunt act
Hondo, every thread.
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Short term sugar rush. Worse in the long run.SFGbob said:Simple question for the Hondo Bros. Did the tax cuts help the economy, hurt or make no difference?
Cue the Kunt act
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It’s brave of you to admit the truth is unwelcomed by you.SFGbob said: -
The economy is so bad that Obama and Biden keep trying to take credit for it
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Presidents rarely deserve the credit or the blame for how the US economy is doing. The economy is vibrant enough that even Daddy hasn’t fucked it up, yet.RaceBannon said:The economy is so bad that Obama and Biden keep trying to take credit for it
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What your hero said 1% is the new normal. And he made it so.HHusky said:
Presidents rarely deserve the credit or the blame for how the US economy is doing. The economy is vibrant enough that even Daddy hasn’t fucked it up, yet.RaceBannon said:The economy is so bad that Obama and Biden keep trying to take credit for it
Real presidents get shit going. -
Immaterial difference.SFGbob said:Simple question for the Hondo Bros. Did the tax cuts help the economy, hurt or make no difference?
Cue the Kunt act -
Again another Kunt act.2001400ex said:
Immaterial difference.SFGbob said:Simple question for the Hondo Bros. Did the tax cuts help the economy, hurt or make no difference?
Cue the Kunt act
So it didn’t help the economy according to Hondo the Kunt and it didn’t hurt the economy so at worst it was neutral and a “immaterial difference” that allowed people to keep more of the money they earned and for some reason letting people keep more of the money they earn to do with as they like makes Hondo’s snatch very, very sore.
