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  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,815 Founders Club
    @CirrhosisDawg is paying more

    I'm paying less. Scoreboard

    It was a sad day when workers got to keep more of their money. Hfs
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    2001400ex said:

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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Hondo wants tax cuts to go to people who already don’t pay any income taxes
  • SledogSledog Member Posts: 33,851 Standard Supporter
    edited July 2019
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Hondo wants tax cuts to go to people who already don’t pay any income taxes
    Hondo do they tax your food stamps?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,768

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    But they won’t.
    Agreed. Let’s stop saying “they should” then and implement tax policies grounded in reality.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    A vast majority of the tax cut went to the people who pay a vast majority of the taxes. The horror
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
    And as predicted, the wage growth and employment numbers anger you.

    Eat shit. Shit for brains.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/04/14/business/economy/income-tax-cut.amp.html


    This is from your article. You are making my point for me Mike.

    Why Don’t People Believe It?
    The tax savings were relatively small for many families, however. The middle fifth of earners got about a $780 tax cut last year on average, according to the Tax Policy Center.

    Most Americans would probably welcome a $780 windfall. But in contrast to 2001, when President George W. Bush’s Treasury Department mailed rebate checks to taxpayers, last year’s tax cuts showed up mostly in the form of lower withholding from workers’ paychecks. A few extra dollars in a biweekly paycheck proved easy to miss. Moreover, as taxpayers filed their returns, many found they were due smaller refunds than in the past, which may have further skewed perceptions of the law.


    That being said. Nothing shows economic growth is greater than if we didn't do the tax cut.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    A vast majority of the tax cut went to the people who pay a vast majority of the taxes. The horror


    Bob again defaults to the simplistic conservative talking point. And ignores reality.
  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
    I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.
  • HustlinOwlHustlinOwl Member Posts: 953
    Isn't this where as con should chime in with that's barely enough to cover population growth and the labor participation rate is at a 40 year low.

    This was a good jobs report and what we've come to expect over the last 10 years.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:



    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
    I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.
    And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211
    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A vast majority of the tax cut went to the people who pay a vast majority of the taxes. The horror


    Bob again defaults to the simplistic conservative talking point. And ignores reality.
    Also known as the facts.

    What reality have I ignored Hondo? Cue the Kunt act
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457

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    Sledog said:

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    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
    I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.
    And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.
    Imagine not have a basic understanding of economics and thinking “trickle down theory” exists in economics.

    Imagine being angry about the best economic growth in over 10 years, low unemployment and rising wages. Not to mention the stock market at an all time high, booting tens of millions of middle class retirement accounts
    Trickle down theory exists to con the working class into supporting tax cuts for the wealthy. And tens of millions of conservatives are dumb enough to believe it.

    I'm not angry about job growth you idiot. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the tax cuts. Although I chuckle when shitdicks like you blasted the labor participation rate under Obama. And ignored unemployment, job growth, and the stock market.
  • 2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    SFGbob said:

    2001400ex said:

    SFGbob said:

    A vast majority of the tax cut went to the people who pay a vast majority of the taxes. The horror


    Bob again defaults to the simplistic conservative talking point. And ignores reality.
    Also known as the facts.

    What reality have I ignored Hondo? Cue the Kunt act

    I've stated it multiple times. Including a couple times in this thread. I can't force you to understand.
  • MikeDamoneMikeDamone Member Posts: 37,781
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    2001400ex said:

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    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    How is that bad news Mike?

    Oh yeah. You think Trump haters want the economy to fail. Idiot.

    They certainly didn't want to succeed. Same thing you lying dumb ass. #1% is the new norm.
    But the tax cuts were “sold” that they would improve hiring and wages!!!!!! - HondoFS
    That's exactly what they were sold as. And they were sold as helping the budget because increased productivity would offset the lower taxes.

    Neither has happened. As always.
    So government revenue is at an all time high, unemployment lowest in decades, wages up....

    Keep beating that retarded drum retard.

    Keep lying...
    Yet revenues are lower as a percent of GDP. Do you understand the size of economy and revenues? Basic math is eluding you Mike.
    Yes, I understand that revenue is at an all time high. I also understand that revenue as a % of GDP has fluctuated very little over the past several decades. I also understand that regular people have more money in to spend as they wish. I also understand that it upsets you the government isn’t taking that money to spend it more wisely (in your view) than the people who earned it.


    Government needs to stop spending more than they take in. It makes Hondo made that people chose how to spend the money they earn. He thinks it all belongs to the government and they can decide how much people get to keep.

    If the economy is doing well, why does the government need more a % of GDP? Your measurement is fucktarded.
    The revenue as a percent of revenue has not barely fluctuated. That's another conservative bullshit talking point. You realize a 3% change is a huge fucking number, right?
    If GDP increases, what it the justification that government receipts need to increase by the same? The actual dollar amount is up. They have more money than ever. That’s a fact. Why do you measure it as a % of GDP and not per capita? It should be the bigger the economy and prosperity, the less the government needs as a %. But you’re to stupid to think that through. Why do you feel the government is entitled to someone’s prosperity?
    Oh so the more productivity we have, the less per capita we need to spend to run the government? That's how it works now? I know you think there should be no taxes at all. Because the free market will shake everything out. But you can't be that Dumb.

    Ok I'll play along tho. Revenues are growing slower than the economy. And expenditures are growing faster than the economy. What do you foresee Republicans doing about this problem?
    Simple. Congress needs to stop increasing expenditures. JFC. How dumb are you? But they won’t. Meanwhile, I’ll be happy to see hardworking Americans making more money and keeping more of it. I know that pisses you off. Like I said, bad news for the HondoBros. You didn’t disappoint.
    I would agree with you if the majority of the tax cuts actually went to the working class. But they didn't.
    Yeah, how dare the tax cuts go to people that actually pay income taxes.
    The working class does pay income tax. Sometimes at higher marginal rates than the wealthy. STFU Bob.
    The working class got a tax cut. Idiot.
    Yes I'm sure that $18 a month was meaningful. Good thing we won the war in China and the tariffs didn't increase prices.

    That being said. I'll tell you one last time. The vast majority of the tax cut went to the wealthy. A point you ignore. Idiot.
    I think it was 18 dollars a week, but yeah nothing basically. That's why the NYT poll showed most Americans didn't think the tax cuts had done anything for them.
    And the larger point that Mike and Lil lyin Bob miss. Republicans and conservatives since the 80s have talked about the trickle down theory. And this tax cut was sold that tax cuts for the wealthy would be shared with the working class. Which didn't happen. Again.
    Imagine not have a basic understanding of economics and thinking “trickle down theory” exists in economics.

    Imagine being angry about the best economic growth in over 10 years, low unemployment and rising wages. Not to mention the stock market at an all time high, booting tens of millions of middle class retirement accounts
    Trickle down theory exists to con the working class into supporting tax cuts for the wealthy. And tens of millions of conservatives are dumb enough to believe it.

    I'm not angry about job growth you idiot. I'm just saying it has nothing to do with the tax cuts. Although I chuckle when shitdicks like you blasted the labor participation rate under Obama. And ignored unemployment, job growth, and the stock market.
    I never blasted the labor participation rate you lying sack of shit.

    So angry about the economy, just as I predicted.

    Tickle down is a made up political term used to rile up useful idiots like you. It doesn’t exist in economics.
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