Mason West, 6'4, 240 lb, 3* 2020 TE, La Habra, CA (Committed)
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He caught two balls last season. I watched both of them. Couldn't believe how slow he is. That's why they don't throw to him. Paopao has told the media Kizer needs to improve as a receiver. It's coming straight from the coaches. The one ball thrown his way during the Spring preview he drops after getting hit. There's a huge fucking difference between Kizer as a receiver and guys like Redman and Kole Taylor. It's night and day.chuck said:
You arent "proving" anything dumbass except that you're so impressed with your own uninformed opinions that you regard them as proof.StrongArmCobra said:
Kizer is worthless as a receiver. That means he fucking sucks. If you're not a complete TE, you fucking suck. If we have to take a WR off the field to put any TE on the field, that fucking TE has to be a quality receiver as well or else the passing game is weakened. What the fuck don't you understand about that? Putting a guy on the field that can only block is not what anybody wants. It damn sure isn't what the coaches want. It only happens when recruiting wasn't good enough at the TE position.Doogles said:
Kizer doesn't suck and Culp remains to be seen. I don't care what state the talent comes from. You seem obsessed with that. A player is a player.StrongArmCobra said:
Because Michael Neal, Jacob Kizer, and Devin Culp all suck. You guys are dooging so hard about our TE depth. It's not good. Kizer is useless as a receiver and having him on the field weakens our passing game. Culp can't block and his conditioning needs work.Doogles said:
Always an excuse when results fuck up the narrative.animate said:
Well, in that case, perhaps we should be putting Garbers on staff then and rate him a 7/10 for recruiting prowress? ... and leave the development and coaching to PaoPao ...Doogles said:
He landed the best tight end on West coast this year from SoCal. He's not a 0, no matter how much you want to believe so.Fear_Boner said:This thread has AIDS. Fuck off, wiggle arguers. Paopao is a fine coach, but on a scale of 1-10 as a recruiter he’s a fucking ZERO. Fire his fucking ass. We already have too many coaches who can’t recruit.
He gets credit for Bryant who will be 3 and out. Otton who will be playing on Sunday. Culp is an explosive athlete with potential to develop. Kizer would start for most D1 programs, will probably play Sunday.
UW has suffered a season ending injury to a starting TE the past two years and the unit was still strong. That's quality depth.
Still trying to see how he sucks at recruiting.
Mark Redman is the only elite out-of-state TE he's ever recruited and he's been here for a decade. That means you suck at recruiting.
I'm not obsessed with what state recruits come from. I'm proving a point. Getting in-state TE's to come here is not hard to do. That's doing the bare minimum. In a decade Paopao has only recruited one elite out-of-state TE and it's the one he has in this class.
Kizer is not worthless as a receiver, or more accurately, you wouldn't know even if he was. Have you seen him drop any targets? Have you seen him fail to get open went hes part of the route tree?
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He sucks at blocking. That's straight from Paopao. No block, no rock.backthepack said:Devin Culp sucks?
Lol this is up their with your worst takes. JFC. -
I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.
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At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.
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I shouldn't have to at this point. People should just recognize that I know more than them about football talent at this point. It's like fucking trumptards telling scientist that global warming is "just their opinion". No, some people know more about a certain topic than you and their "opinion" is based on facts, research, reasoning, and experience and should be respected. I don't know shit about baseball talent or golf talent, but I know football talent. Respect it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.
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You sound desperate for approvalStrongArmCobra said:
I shouldn't have to at this point. People should just recognize that I know more than them about football talent at this point. It's like fucking trumptards telling scientist that global warming is "just their opinion". No, some people know more about a certain topic than you and their "opinion" is based on facts, research, reasoning, and experience and should be respected. I don't know shit about baseball talent or golf talent, but I know football talent. Respect it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.
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56 unread posts. Skips to end. AIDS confirmed.
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As always, if I was I would just follow the group think of the board for easy approval.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You sound desperate for approvalStrongArmCobra said:
I shouldn't have to at this point. People should just recognize that I know more than them about football talent at this point. It's like fucking trumptards telling scientist that global warming is "just their opinion". No, some people know more about a certain topic than you and their "opinion" is based on facts, research, reasoning, and experience and should be respected. I don't know shit about baseball talent or golf talent, but I know football talent. Respect it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.
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StrongArmCobra said:
As always, if I was I would just follow the group think of the board for easy approval.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You sound desperate for approvalStrongArmCobra said:
I shouldn't have to at this point. People should just recognize that I know more than them about football talent at this point. It's like fucking trumptards telling scientist that global warming is "just their opinion". No, some people know more about a certain topic than you and their "opinion" is based on facts, research, reasoning, and experience and should be respected. I don't know shit about baseball talent or golf talent, but I know football talent. Respect it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.

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Wouldn't Ballz be the cup, AIDS the milk, and the thread as the pan?Sources said:StrongArmCobra said:
As always, if I was I would just follow the group think of the board for easy approval.GreenRiverGatorz said:
You sound desperate for approvalStrongArmCobra said:
I shouldn't have to at this point. People should just recognize that I know more than them about football talent at this point. It's like fucking trumptards telling scientist that global warming is "just their opinion". No, some people know more about a certain topic than you and their "opinion" is based on facts, research, reasoning, and experience and should be respected. I don't know shit about baseball talent or golf talent, but I know football talent. Respect it.GreenRiverGatorz said:
At least you recognize that you're very bad at persuading people of anything.StrongArmCobra said:I think the board is just so sick of me being right all the time that y'all now just want to disagree with everything I say. You agree that West is a sub par recruit but when you see me arguing that you want to disagree to go against Ballz. That's fine. This kid sucks until proven otherwise. TE recruiting is not good enough. One elite TE here and there mixed in with a bunch of JAGs is not good enough. You're all better off just accepting that I know more about football and football talent that any of you and respecting my opinion about the guys we're recruiting and getting than fucking arguing with me. I know who is good and who sucks. Most of you don't.

Edit: nevermind, I didnt look at that very closely.



