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Mason West, 6'4, 240 lb, 3* 2020 TE, La Habra, CA (Committed)
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Because you're an obtuse dipshitStrongArmCobra said:
Not seeing the irony here. I'm arguing about subpar recruiting.Swaye said:
Define irony.StrongArmCobra said:
Not your best effort. Wiggle doesn't mean he has to be shaking people. It means he can catch the ball and stop on a dime while the defender flies pats him and keep going. It means he can weave through traffic. It means he's fucking athletic and can move in a way that most others can't at that size. Why do people insist on arguing about stupid shit?dnc said:
Gronk ran by people because he has wheels and through people with brute strength. He wasn't shaking people.StrongArmCobra said:
One of the dumbest post of all time on this board. Gronk is the GOAT TE BECAUSE of his wiggle. He made people miss and turned routine catches into explosive plays and touch downs.dnc said:
Gronk doesn't have any wiggleStrongArmCobra said:
Witten is the Wes Welker of Tight Ends. But sure, everybody prefers stiff guys over more athletic guys right? I'm sure Yurosek will be a future hall of famer like Witten right? You would take Witten over Gronk or Travis Kelce right? Logic is hard for you.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. A guy like Witten with zero moves is going to be a first ballot hall of famer, but wiggle is what separates the goods from greats. Yurosek is going to be 6'5" 250 when he sees the field. I don't care if he can't juke for shit at that size. You probably want all your quarterbacks to have six packs too.StrongArmCobra said:
It's literally the one thing that separates the greats from the average at the position. JAG TE's catch the ball and get tackled. The greats make guys miss and break tackles and turn short gains into explosive plays and touchdowns.GreenRiverGatorz said:
When it comes to tight ends, "wiggle" is way down the list of attributes I give a fuck about.StrongArmCobra said:
Yurosek is a great athlete but he's stiffer than a fence post. He has no wiggle with the ball in his hands like Redman and Taylor do. There's a gap between those two and Yurosek and then another gap between Yurosek and this kid.FKA_Mousecop said:
PaoPao sucks, but to be disappointed because he got Yurosek and Redman would be stupid.LaMichael_Corleone said:Why do we continue to enable Paopao and Gregory?
GreenRiverGatorz said:
Of course you don't. You have the self awareness of a clam.StrongArmCobra said:
Not seeing the irony here. I'm arguing about subpar recruiting.Swaye said:
Define irony.StrongArmCobra said:
Not your best effort. Wiggle doesn't mean he has to be shaking people. It means he can catch the ball and stop on a dime while the defender flies pats him and keep going. It means he can weave through traffic. It means he's fucking athletic and can move in a way that most others can't at that size. Why do people insist on arguing about stupid shit?dnc said:
Gronk ran by people because he has wheels and through people with brute strength. He wasn't shaking people.StrongArmCobra said:
One of the dumbest post of all time on this board. Gronk is the GOAT TE BECAUSE of his wiggle. He made people miss and turned routine catches into explosive plays and touch downs.dnc said:
Gronk doesn't have any wiggleStrongArmCobra said:
Witten is the Wes Welker of Tight Ends. But sure, everybody prefers stiff guys over more athletic guys right? I'm sure Yurosek will be a future hall of famer like Witten right? You would take Witten over Gronk or Travis Kelce right? Logic is hard for you.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Sure. A guy like Witten with zero moves is going to be a first ballot hall of famer, but wiggle is what separates the goods from greats. Yurosek is going to be 6'5" 250 when he sees the field. I don't care if he can't juke for shit at that size. You probably want all your quarterbacks to have six packs too.StrongArmCobra said:
It's literally the one thing that separates the greats from the average at the position. JAG TE's catch the ball and get tackled. The greats make guys miss and break tackles and turn short gains into explosive plays and touchdowns.GreenRiverGatorz said:
When it comes to tight ends, "wiggle" is way down the list of attributes I give a fuck about.StrongArmCobra said:
Yurosek is a great athlete but he's stiffer than a fence post. He has no wiggle with the ball in his hands like Redman and Taylor do. There's a gap between those two and Yurosek and then another gap between Yurosek and this kid.FKA_Mousecop said:
PaoPao sucks, but to be disappointed because he got Yurosek and Redman would be stupid.LaMichael_Corleone said:Why do we continue to enable Paopao and Gregory?
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Yeah, I dont really get the 3 TE thing. Even with Bryant likely gone and not taking one last year, you have 2 sophs and a freshman on the roster, none of whom are likely to leave early.
My guess is the next Eklund recruiting blog will say something like, "UW had been saying for awhile that they were going to take 3 TEs. With the commitment of West, it looks like they may actually be content with 2 and are done for that position." -
It honestly amazes me that people are impressed that Ecklund predicted Mason West would come to UW...KrunkJuice said:If any of you have any extra time, you should read the comments section of the West commitment on Doogman. There are words being used like "Nostra-Eklund" and sentences like "much respect for how you report on recruiting". Unreal.
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He landed the best tight end on West coast this year from SoCal. He's not a 0, no matter how much you want to believe so.Fear_Boner said:This thread has AIDS. Fuck off, wiggle arguers. Paopao is a fine coach, but on a scale of 1-10 as a recruiter he’s a fucking ZERO. Fire his fucking ass. We already have too many coaches who can’t recruit.
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Well, in that case, perhaps we should be putting Garbers on staff then and rate him a 7/10 for recruiting prowress? ... and leave the development and coaching to PaoPao ...Doogles said:
He landed the best tight end on West coast this year from SoCal. He's not a 0, no matter how much you want to believe so.Fear_Boner said:This thread has AIDS. Fuck off, wiggle arguers. Paopao is a fine coach, but on a scale of 1-10 as a recruiter he’s a fucking ZERO. Fire his fucking ass. We already have too many coaches who can’t recruit.
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Not really the right bored for this, but with the talk of 3 TE's in this class it makes a lot more sense Bryant didn't redshirt last year. It seems pretty clear that he has indicated to the coaches he is going pro next year unless he is unable and if I had to guess (WAG) he might not have wanted to RS to get some more tape out.
As much of a beast as he will be this year, he doesn't have a ton of college tape, he is a tweener, and hasn't been injury free. Curious what he has heard for potential draft grades with a big year.
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Always an excuse when results fuck up the narrative.animate said:
Well, in that case, perhaps we should be putting Garbers on staff then and rate him a 7/10 for recruiting prowress? ... and leave the development and coaching to PaoPao ...Doogles said:
He landed the best tight end on West coast this year from SoCal. He's not a 0, no matter how much you want to believe so.Fear_Boner said:This thread has AIDS. Fuck off, wiggle arguers. Paopao is a fine coach, but on a scale of 1-10 as a recruiter he’s a fucking ZERO. Fire his fucking ass. We already have too many coaches who can’t recruit.
He gets credit for Bryant who will be 3 and out. Otton who will be playing on Sunday. Culp is an explosive athlete with potential to develop. Kizer would start for most D1 programs, will probably play Sunday.
UW has suffered a season ending injury to a starting TE the past two years and the unit was still strong. That's quality depth.
Still trying to see how he sucks at recruiting. -
All these TE’s we get are system fits. Talent matters but so does frame and intangibles. Could Paopao recruit a higher star level, sure. Does seem like the Dawgs are producing solid TE’s though.
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This whole freakout is beyond stupid, and the reason you've mentioned is the correct reason why. UW's offense likes to feature a receiving specialist who can do some blocking and a blocking specialist who can catch the odd pass. Bryant and Culp fit the first mold perfectly, Otton is kind of a crossover, and Kizer excels as a blocker.DawgFader said:All these TE’s we get are system fits. Talent matters but so does frame and intangibles. Could Paopao recruit a higher star level, sure. Does seem like the Dawgs are producing solid TE’s though.
Kizer, in spite of ballzdumb's ranting, is an extremely athletic, big MFer who can already start borrowing against the money the NFL is going to pay him. Fuck you ballzbitch, the guy is good and is the prototype for the WTE position that UW's offense requires.
Theres never going to be a TE room full of featurable receiving right ends. There will be one featured guy like Bryant and one behind him for depth, and 3-4 bigger guys with pass catching skills but who are going to block most of the time. The system neither needs or even wants a room full of tight ends who all expect to catch 40-50 passes. There just arent that many passes to go around, especially with receiver recruiting on such an uptick. -
Because Michael Neal, Jacob Kizer, and Devin Culp all suck. You guys are dooging so hard about our TE depth. It's not good. Kizer is useless as a receiver and having him on the field weakens our passing game. Culp can't block and his conditioning needs work.Doogles said:
Always an excuse when results fuck up the narrative.animate said:
Well, in that case, perhaps we should be putting Garbers on staff then and rate him a 7/10 for recruiting prowress? ... and leave the development and coaching to PaoPao ...Doogles said:
He landed the best tight end on West coast this year from SoCal. He's not a 0, no matter how much you want to believe so.Fear_Boner said:This thread has AIDS. Fuck off, wiggle arguers. Paopao is a fine coach, but on a scale of 1-10 as a recruiter he’s a fucking ZERO. Fire his fucking ass. We already have too many coaches who can’t recruit.
He gets credit for Bryant who will be 3 and out. Otton who will be playing on Sunday. Culp is an explosive athlete with potential to develop. Kizer would start for most D1 programs, will probably play Sunday.
UW has suffered a season ending injury to a starting TE the past two years and the unit was still strong. That's quality depth.
Still trying to see how he sucks at recruiting.
Mark Redman is the only elite out-of-state TE he's ever recruited and he's been here for a decade. That means you suck at recruiting.
