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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Jesus, if you really are an accountant you've gotta be the worst fucking one that I've ever talked to. I already gave you a very reasonable and easy explanation. Yes, withholding can be higher than the effective rate on bonuses for a variety of reasons. I've had it happen, was pissed, and had to go get an explanation of why it happened.

    Also, are we really arguing over if something along 49% vs. 58% makes it too much? Both are too fucking much. Fucking Christ, the colonists revolted over less than 5% of their income going to taxes.
    The colonists should have just gotten on the interstate and had their social security checks forwarded.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    edited June 2019
    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
    Private charity isn't a substitute for paying for your demands on us, Mall Cop.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
    Private charity isn't a substitute for paying for your demands on us, Mall Cop.
    I make no demands and you pay none of my retirement. HTH
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    Mall Cop: "I make no demands and you pay none of my retirement. HTH"

    True. You don't really have to demand, do you? You're welcome.
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  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Jesus, if you really are an accountant you've gotta be the worst fucking one that I've ever talked to. I already gave you a very reasonable and easy explanation. Yes, withholding can be higher than the effective rate on bonuses for a variety of reasons. I've had it happen, was pissed, and had to go get an explanation of why it happened.

    Also, are we really arguing over if something along 49% vs. 58% makes it too much? Both are too fucking much. Fucking Christ, the colonists revolted over less than 5% of their income going to taxes.
    Bonuses are described as supplemental income and federal withholding are 22% as long as the bonus is under a mill no matter the amount. We get a fair share of our income from year end bonuses which can exceed base salary in good years so deal with this annually.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    Sledog said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Fuck off true story. Except I thought it was a bonus. It wasn't. Those are the deductions on the fucking check I saw it myself. Fuck off again!
    STFU liar. "Saw the check myself" is that like you watching someone pull out a food stamp at a grocery store? No one getting a $100k bonus gets it from a check anymore.
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  • 2001400ex
    2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Jesus, if you really are an accountant you've gotta be the worst fucking one that I've ever talked to. I already gave you a very reasonable and easy explanation. Yes, withholding can be higher than the effective rate on bonuses for a variety of reasons. I've had it happen, was pissed, and had to go get an explanation of why it happened.

    Also, are we really arguing over if something along 49% vs. 58% makes it too much? Both are too fucking much. Fucking Christ, the colonists revolted over less than 5% of their income going to taxes.
    Sledog said 6.2% social security which is impossible. He made the shit up.

    Well I'd say if you don't want to pay 49% don't live in California. That's 10-13% top rate or whatever. Fuck that. In Washington, it would be about 40%. Unless the income is derived from capital gains. Then it's 20%.

    Seriously. The person that gets screwed for taxes in this country is the person making $200k to $500k a year from a wage.
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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    So you can finally purchase health insurance? To whom should the check be sent?
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
    Private charity isn't a substitute for paying for your demands on us, Mall Cop.
    I make no demands and you pay none of my retirement. HTH
    I'm sure you'll be turning your entitlements away.
    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    Another intellectual telling us that Taxes = Extortion. Can’t quite figure out why taxes aren’t voluntary, eh Race?

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    So you can finally purchase health insurance? To whom should the check be sent?
    If I wanted it I'd have it

    Democrats lost another vote when my wife saw that Cali is going to institute a tax if you don't have insurance and give free insurance to illegals

    Good job. Idiot
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  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    RaceBannon said:

    CirrhosisDawg said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    So you can finally purchase health insurance? To whom should the check be sent?
    If I wanted it I'd have it

    Democrats lost another vote when my wife saw that Cali is going to institute a tax if you don't have insurance and give free insurance to illegals

    Good job. Idiot
    J F C
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
    Private charity isn't a substitute for paying for your demands on us, Mall Cop.
    I make no demands and you pay none of my retirement. HTH
    I'm sure you'll be turning your entitlements away.
    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    Another intellectual telling us that Taxes = Extortion. Can’t quite figure out why taxes aren’t voluntary, eh Race?

    I know why they aren't voluntary

    No wonder you've filled death row. You keep making comments that have nothing to do with the issue

    Fact is you're claiming unless the government exports 70% or more if income at gunpoint you can't help the poor

    I helpfully suggested that you write a fucking check and leave the rest of us alone to do likewise if we choose
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Bonuses are not taxed at the same rate as your adjusted gross is. I don't know shit about taxes (hi @CirrhosisDawg) but I do know this. Whether his numbers are straight, I have no idea?

    But what we all do know is that you are full of shit.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    RaceBannon said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    SFGbob said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    You know, if they felt that strongly about it they could just pay more in taxes, or even better, give to needy charities...

    https://stjude.org/about-st-jude/why-support-st-jude.html?sc_dcm=244600628&d_creative=116665941&sc_cid=bnn72778&gclid=CjwKCAjw__fnBRANEiwAuFxET7qZTPWKN4xDWsUvXOV1zp9b74P08gaSAiRUcxTgNGSUAEip0kGpSBoCSWIQAvD_BwE

    Those who play by the rules but favor changing the rules are always told they could just volunteer to play by the rules they favor. It’s a stupid response. They want billionaires like yourself to pay more too.
    Yeah it's "stupid" because it exposes you for the hypocrites and frauds you are. You can have exactly what you want right now. There is nothing stopping you and every other person who wants to pay more in taxes from writing a check to the government right now. I on the other hand, want lower taxes and if I decide on my own to start paying less in taxes I'll have the power of the state come down on my head and force me to pay my taxes, there's nothing I can do about it.


    You want higher taxes? Start paying them now O'Keefed. You can have exactly what you want today, but you won't do it because you're a fraud. You don't want to pay higher taxes, you want other people to pay higher taxes.
    blob, I already pay higher taxes than you do and I'll bet I give away more too. I am proposing to pay even more than I already do in taxes; you can pay a little more too. That's how a society works.
    You can donate more and not try and force everyone else to pay more. Just pit some big numbers in the donation box on the tax form. Or they have to force you to give?
    Private charity isn't a substitute for paying for your demands on us, Mall Cop.
    I make no demands and you pay none of my retirement. HTH
    I'm sure you'll be turning your entitlements away.
    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    I want to give more to the poor but I need to be forced to at gunpoint

    Fucking brilliant

    The poor isn't where any large percentage of our tax dollars go.
    Who said it was?

    Is the idea of giving money not extorted from you by the government for corrupt purposes that foreign to you?

    Write a fucking check
    Another intellectual telling us that Taxes = Extortion. Can’t quite figure out why taxes aren’t voluntary, eh Race?

    I know why they aren't voluntary

    No wonder you've filled death row. You keep making comments that have nothing to do with the issue

    Fact is you're claiming unless the government exports 70% or more if income at gunpoint you can't help the poor

    I helpfully suggested that you write a fucking check and leave the rest of us alone to do likewise if we choose
    70% of income?

    You’re getting hysterical, ma’ am.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,206 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Yes, yes, we've all heard plenty from the guy that calls for higher taxes while dodging his own.

    Have you donated to St. Jude's yet? https://stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Yes, yes, we've all heard plenty from the guy that calls for higher taxes while dodging his own.

    Have you donated to St. Jude's yet? https://stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
    I have. You?

    For a tax dodger, I sure pay a lot of taxes.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Really only a divorce lawyer would jump to that conclusion and think that it is a logical thought process with the information given.

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 114,188 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Yes, yes, we've all heard plenty from the guy that calls for higher taxes while dodging his own.

    Have you donated to St. Jude's yet? https://stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
    I have. You?

    For a tax dodger, I sure pay a lot of taxes.
    No one cares

    Except you

    And you pay the least amount possible like anyone else.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Really only a divorce lawyer would jump to that conclusion and think that it is a logical thought process with the information given.

    Child support orders are actually a hazard known to almost anyone who’s ever had to get paid by someone other than an employer.
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,206 Founders Club
    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Yes, yes, we've all heard plenty from the guy that calls for higher taxes while dodging his own.

    Have you donated to St. Jude's yet? https://stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
    I have. You?

    For a tax dodger, I sure pay a lot of taxes.
    Yeap, I have.

    I'm sure the ultra wealthy you are complaining about feel the same way.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Yes, yes, we've all heard plenty from the guy that calls for higher taxes while dodging his own.

    Have you donated to St. Jude's yet? https://stjude.org/donate/donate-to-st-jude.html
    I have. You?

    For a tax dodger, I sure pay a lot of taxes.
    Yeap, I have.

    I'm sure the ultra wealthy you are complaining about feel the same way.
    You are confused. I pay my taxes and I wasn’t complaining about the ultra wealthy.
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  • WestlinnDuck
    WestlinnDuck Member Posts: 17,658 Standard Supporter
    Bonuses are eligible for a lower rate of withholding. They ultimately are taxed at your actual marginal tax rate. No special treatment.
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  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Really only a divorce lawyer would jump to that conclusion and think that it is a logical thought process with the information given.

    Child support orders are actually a hazard known to almost anyone who’s ever had to get paid by someone other than an employer.
    Your struggle is real today. If someone receives a bonus, it means that they are a probably a W2 and not a 1099. In this instance, the taxes were deducted from the bonus, so that should be our first clue that it wasn't a 1099 or a sole or a LLC who received the bonus.

    And believe it or not, people who work for the Man get behind on child support also.
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  • HHusky
    HHusky Member Posts: 23,979
    edited June 2019
    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    salemcoog said:

    HHusky said:

    RaceBannon said:

    Hondo does the guy's taxes

    More likely, the ex-wife got the past due child support.
    There we go. Not only do you hate white people. You also hate men.


    Being an indoctrinated self loathing snob is no way to go through life son.

    But then you already know this.

    Just trying to reconcile alleged facts with reality. I’m also willing to believe the alleged facts were simply lies.
    Really only a divorce lawyer would jump to that conclusion and think that it is a logical thought process with the information given.

    Child support orders are actually a hazard known to almost anyone who’s ever had to get paid by someone other than an employer.
    Your struggle is real today. If someone receives a bonus, it means that they are a probably a W2 and not a 1099. In this instance, the taxes were deducted from the bonus, so that should be our first clue that it wasn't a 1099 or a sole or a LLC who received the bonus.

    And believe it or not, people who work for the Man get behind on child support also.
    I understood the guy receiving the bonus was an employee. You missed my point.
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,893 Standard Supporter
    2001400ex said:

    UW_Doog_Bot said:

    2001400ex said:

    Sledog said:

    HHusky said:

    Sledog said:

    Guy I know just got a bonus check for 100k in Cali. His check after taxes was 41,300.00 The government's shouldn't get more than the worker. Ever.

    Either an apocryphal tale or there’s a piece of information missing.
    Oh and how do you figure that?

    37% federal, 13% state, 1.45% Medicare , 1% disability, 6.2% social security.

    58.65%

    That's fucking Kalifornia and the feds.
    Now I know you just completely made that story up. You just outed yourself dumbfuck.

    To be in the 37% tax bracket, your income has to be over $400k. And social security ends under $130k.

    But remember, sledog is not known as a liar.
    Jesus, if you really are an accountant you've gotta be the worst fucking one that I've ever talked to. I already gave you a very reasonable and easy explanation. Yes, withholding can be higher than the effective rate on bonuses for a variety of reasons. I've had it happen, was pissed, and had to go get an explanation of why it happened.

    Also, are we really arguing over if something along 49% vs. 58% makes it too much? Both are too fucking much. Fucking Christ, the colonists revolted over less than 5% of their income going to taxes.
    Sledog said 6.2% social security which is impossible. He made the shit up.

    Well I'd say if you don't want to pay 49% don't live in California. That's 10-13% top rate or whatever. Fuck that. In Washington, it would be about 40%. Unless the income is derived from capital gains. Then it's 20%.

    Seriously. The person that gets screwed for taxes in this country is the person making $200k to $500k a year from a wage.
    Really what are the rates know it all? Everything I said is true. I'm not a lying turd like you.

    I could provide proof but you'll have to pay if I do. Say $1000.00? More?
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