Who doesn’t PGOS get into whiny pissing matches with?
Real fans
If you actually read my post that ruffled your feathers so much, I didn't say I wanted the Huskies to lose. I said I didn't want Jimmy to win because in my mind he's dropped the ball way too many times on basic stuff. He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point.
You want the Huskies to win but you want their head coach to lose.
That makes perfect sense, thanks for clearing that up.
"He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point."
Like I said, youre a recrooting doog. It's okay to admit it, there are a lot of your ilk.
You want a new shiny Sark like coach to bring the sizzle and the 4 stars.
Non recrooting doogFS posters understand that winning the fucking games is all that matters at the end of the day. Could care less if it was a roster full of 5 stars or a bunch of 2 star walkons.
Not only that, they understand that as momentum builds within a program, recruiting improves. Iowa State is signing 4 stars now because their coach won the fucking games.
I know this is difficult to grasp. I really do. You like the excitement of teenage drama and you oogle over pictures of 17 year olds.
UW is a program where the momentum stalled in 2019, then a global pandemic hit. Many people, including recruits, are in wait and see mode in regards to the program. Myself included.
A big 2021 season, beating Michigan, winning the conference, will spell better recruiting moving forward.
A runner up, 9-3 type season may or may not be cause for concern.
Anything less than that and fire Jimmy.
Fucking idiot. Hth.
Recruiting is vital, but I’ve never given a shit about three seasons from now. I expect to be good this season and that’s all I really care about, or at least what I care about most.
Losing Ebuka and JTT is bad. We need to get the elite guys that are right there. I don’t really give a shit about the rest of the guys.
Recruiting matters. Just not as much as good coaching. Our best season in 30 years was with a bunch of fringe top 25 type classes.
The results worsened as the recruiting inched closer to the top 10.
Its better to have higher ranked recruits than the alternative. But you can win, especially in the Pac 12, with borderline top 25 talent.
Even against Bama, I will die believing scheme was the biggest issues
This is true on the Pac level but not on a national level, but even by this standard you should be concerned. Jimmy isn't recruiting at that level. The only thing that kept his 2021 class in that range was having Sam who didn't commit to Jimmy. Jimmy has taken 23 commitments from kids who signed here or haven't decommitted yet. Only 5 of those are 4 star kids. None are five stars. 21% four stars isn't going to get the job done consistently and sustainably.
That would be concerning anytime.
It's especially an issue given the high level of in state talent of the classes in question.
UW didnt have the same talent Penn State or Ohio State did.
But the talent didnt lose them those games. The team starting sluggish, due mostly to the offensive scheme, was the problem
When UW finally woke up and the playcalling got dialed in, combined with desperation, made the final scores within one possession
Talent matters, but you dont have to out talent those teams to win. We were recruiting at the fabled 40% blue chip rate and went fucking 8-5, right @RaceBannon
If Jimmy wins he will be legitimized and the recruiting will greatly improve. Not worried about it.
If he loses, he gets fired and this is moot.
We didn't lose because of talent, because our 2016-18 teams were extremely talented. Recruiting rankings are not the same as talent. But in order to reliably be as talented as those teams you have to recruit better.
The amount of good players we got from the early Pete classes was a miracle, it's not something that's easy to replicate. 3*s aren't magically coached up better than 4*s. Just because we built a great team in 2016 with 3*s does not mean it's likely to happen again! I don't know why this is so hard to understand.
Christ.
My point is that coaching is much more important than whether starters are 3 stars or 4 stars.
3 stars get coached up all the time to be better than the 4 stars they are competing with, either on their own team for a roster spot or on the other team on Fall Saturdays
I dont know why this is so hard to understand
You can do more with more PGOS, come on.
Washington did that. Once
And we? are still paying for it 30 years later
Its a culture and the culture is the greatest setting and some winning but not too much and leave the cash at home when recruiting
That lesson was ignored 20 years ago and we are still paying for that too
I don't accept that the mildly competent soft fucking loser Petersen is the best we could hope for here. Nick Urban Day Switzer is the best we could hope for
Why we don't is where your angst should be directed
Some of the most vocal here -- Hi @PostGameOrangeSlices -- are happy with a 9-3 Alamo winner.
You guys are the definition of delusional old timer message board fans. Which is great, it's funny, but its the truth. Im a fan of the truth and tend to live in reality here in my advanced age of nearly 30.
Now we know why you’re a fucking idiot
Shut up Tequilla
You’ve been a long term idiot as well … you have little room to talk in support of PGOS
Jesus dude. Read the room.
You are the original long term idiot.
Lets take the gloves off. Lets roll.
Htfh
I read the room just fine …
I don’t need validation from idiots like you and Haie to feel good about myself
You don’t want the gloves to come off … trust me
You keep responding so it seems like you do. Responding to both me and grandpa Race.
Calm down Turbo.
The things you can do with technology while taking a shit
No, the narrative is not great right now, and we've lost more than a few recruiting battles lately, but all is not lost. Winning on the field is the salve and we should EXPECT to win this year and next. The shitty narrative can flip real quick when/if we blow the PAC's assholes open this year, especially when the o becomes an O, ufeelme?
As for recruiting, Jimmy is still an unknown quantity. Yes, several of our recruiters seem to be awful (DB blows my mind), but it starts and stops with the head coach when it comes to closing a kid. Kids on the fence swayed towards Pete because he was a very well-known quantity. They knew exactly what they were going to get and that's an enormous boost when it comes to convincing a kid. Pete was "Dad". Great dude, great coach (with some shortcomings), 100% real, and a boss of a closer. Jimmy clearly doesn't have that aura yet. He's a complete unknown as a head coach and those recruiting battles aren't falling our way. We thought his recruiting chops as a position coach/DC would continue as HC but we were deluding ourselves. What kids are seeing is an inexperienced head coach. Covid year really fucked us. Maybe we didn't cyber recruit well or whatever, but I'm not surprised. UW sells substance and I truly believe kids need to experience that substance first hand. It's the brand we've adopted, for better or worse. Yes, we need a little more flash. That doesn't change the fact that Covid fucked us. Even so, I'm a doogin' pretty hard on a lot of the talent we have gotten in the last class and this one, stars be damned. There's a lot of high ceilings. I don't know why we should expect that these guys can't be conference winner/12 team playoff caliber players. And they're not even playing for 2, 3, 4 years. The 18,19, 20 classes have PLENTY of time left. If there's some holes that develop from the 21-22 classes, Jimmy has proven the willingness and ability to go get some serious talent in the portal.
Jimmy has coached 4 games. FOUR. Let's give the motherfucker a chance to prove himself on the sidelines. This season is more important than most (all) of the 34 seasons I can remember. We need to win, win often, and win big. And I'd argue beating Oregon (and to a lesser extent, fucking Stanford) has never been more critical. Jimmy knows this and the players know this. There's gotta be a huge shoulder chip growing in the locker room right about now. Would not be surprised to see UW frothing at the mouth this season, much more than we ever saw in the Pete era. Have a great season and this switch is getting flipped back on. Do not have a great season and we could be in for a bad time. It's simple.
No, the narrative is not great right now, and we've lost more than a few recruiting battles lately, but all is not lost. Winning on the field is the salve and we should EXPECT to win this year and next. The shitty narrative can flip real quick when/if we blow the PAC's assholes open this year, especially when the o becomes an O, ufeelme?
As for recruiting, Jimmy is still an unknown quantity. Yes, several of our recruiters seem to be awful (DB blows my mind), but it starts and stops with the head coach when it comes to closing a kid. Kids on the fence swayed towards Pete because he was a very well-known quantity. They knew exactly what they were going to get and that's an enormous boost when it comes to convincing a kid. Pete was "Dad". Great dude, great coach (with some shortcomings), 100% real, and a boss of a closer. Jimmy clearly doesn't have that aura yet. He's a complete unknown as a head coach and those recruiting battles aren't falling our way. We thought his recruiting chops as a position coach/DC would continue as HC but we were deluding ourselves. What kids are seeing is an inexperienced head coach. Covid year really fucked us. Maybe we didn't cyber recruit well or whatever, but I'm not surprised. UW sells substance and I truly believe kids need to experience that substance first hand. It's the brand we've adopted, for better or worse. Yes, we need a little more flash. That doesn't change the fact that Covid fucked us. Even so, I'm a doogin' pretty hard on a lot of the talent we have gotten in the last class and this one, stars be damned. There's a lot of high ceilings. I don't know why we should expect that these guys can't be conference winner/12 team playoff caliber players. And they're not even playing for 2, 3, 4 years. The 18,19, 20 classes have PLENTY of time left. If there's some holes that develop from the 21-22 classes, Jimmy has proven the willingness and ability to go get some serious talent in the portal.
Jimmy has coached 4 games. FOUR. Let's give the motherfucker a chance to prove himself on the sidelines. This season is more important than most (all) of the 34 seasons I can remember. We need to win, win often, and win big. And I'd argue beating Oregon (and to a lesser extent, fucking Stanford) has never been more critical. Jimmy knows this and the players know this. There's gotta be a huge shoulder chip growing in the locker room right about now. Would not be surprised to see UW frothing at the mouth this season, much more than we ever saw in the Pete era. Have a great season and this switch is getting flipped back on. Do not have a great season and we could be in for a bad time. It's simple.
No, the narrative is not great right now, and we've lost more than a few recruiting battles lately, but all is not lost. Winning on the field is the salve and we should EXPECT to win this year and next. The shitty narrative can flip real quick when/if we blow the PAC's assholes open this year, especially when the o becomes an O, ufeelme?
As for recruiting, Jimmy is still an unknown quantity. Yes, several of our recruiters seem to be awful (DB blows my mind), but it starts and stops with the head coach when it comes to closing a kid. Kids on the fence swayed towards Pete because he was a very well-known quantity. They knew exactly what they were going to get and that's an enormous boost when it comes to convincing a kid. Pete was "Dad". Great dude, great coach (with some shortcomings), 100% real, and a boss of a closer. Jimmy clearly doesn't have that aura yet. He's a complete unknown as a head coach and those recruiting battles aren't falling our way. We thought his recruiting chops as a position coach/DC would continue as HC but we were deluding ourselves. What kids are seeing is an inexperienced head coach. Covid year really fucked us. Maybe we didn't cyber recruit well or whatever, but I'm not surprised. UW sells substance and I truly believe kids need to experience that substance first hand. It's the brand we've adopted, for better or worse. Yes, we need a little more flash. That doesn't change the fact that Covid fucked us. Even so, I'm a doogin' pretty hard on a lot of the talent we have gotten in the last class and this one, stars be damned. There's a lot of high ceilings. I don't know why we should expect that these guys can't be conference winner/12 team playoff caliber players. And they're not even playing for 2, 3, 4 years. The 18,19, 20 classes have PLENTY of time left. If there's some holes that develop from the 21-22 classes, Jimmy has proven the willingness and ability to go get some serious talent in the portal.
Jimmy has coached 4 games. FOUR. Let's give the motherfucker a chance to prove himself on the sidelines. This season is more important than most (all) of the 34 seasons I can remember. We need to win, win often, and win big. And I'd argue beating Oregon (and to a lesser extent, fucking Stanford) has never been more critical. Jimmy knows this and the players know this. There's gotta be a huge shoulder chip growing in the locker room right about now. Would not be surprised to see UW frothing at the mouth this season, much more than we ever saw in the Pete era. Have a great season and this switch is getting flipped back on. Do not have a great season and we could be in for a bad time. It's simple.
Disagree.
With what? Was it the win = good and lose = bad part? You must be Team @BeerThirty where it's flipped.
Who doesn’t PGOS get into whiny pissing matches with?
Real fans
If you actually read my post that ruffled your feathers so much, I didn't say I wanted the Huskies to lose. I said I didn't want Jimmy to win because in my mind he's dropped the ball way too many times on basic stuff. He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point.
You want the Huskies to win but you want their head coach to lose.
That makes perfect sense, thanks for clearing that up.
"He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point."
Like I said, youre a recrooting doog. It's okay to admit it, there are a lot of your ilk.
You want a new shiny Sark like coach to bring the sizzle and the 4 stars.
Non recrooting doogFS posters understand that winning the fucking games is all that matters at the end of the day. Could care less if it was a roster full of 5 stars or a bunch of 2 star walkons.
Not only that, they understand that as momentum builds within a program, recruiting improves. Iowa State is signing 4 stars now because their coach won the fucking games.
I know this is difficult to grasp. I really do. You like the excitement of teenage drama and you oogle over pictures of 17 year olds.
UW is a program where the momentum stalled in 2019, then a global pandemic hit. Many people, including recruits, are in wait and see mode in regards to the program. Myself included.
A big 2021 season, beating Michigan, winning the conference, will spell better recruiting moving forward.
A runner up, 9-3 type season may or may not be cause for concern.
Anything less than that and fire Jimmy.
Fucking idiot. Hth.
Recruiting is vital, but I’ve never given a shit about three seasons from now. I expect to be good this season and that’s all I really care about, or at least what I care about most.
Losing Ebuka and JTT is bad. We need to get the elite guys that are right there. I don’t really give a shit about the rest of the guys.
Recruiting matters. Just not as much as good coaching. Our best season in 30 years was with a bunch of fringe top 25 type classes.
The results worsened as the recruiting inched closer to the top 10.
Its better to have higher ranked recruits than the alternative. But you can win, especially in the Pac 12, with borderline top 25 talent.
Even against Bama, I will die believing scheme was the biggest issues
We had a significant talent gap team-wise... but we had talent in positions of importance like vea in the middle etc.
But a 100% team versus a 70% team is not a favorable matchup
Went through the starters quickly so I might have missed something but the reality is the starting team was composed of a couple 2* mostly 3* and a few average 4*...and Budda.
I agree in you need some important positions to be big time but alot of our best players that season were lowly 3*s
@CallMeBigErn are you purpedawgfan from doogman? I haven't seen anyone so play thought police on a Husky bored since I was last there.
Here's a tip...we, us message board slobs, don't need to give him more of a chance as you demand. We don't make the decisions. We post thoughts on a fucking forum and have all the leeway in the world to be wrong. Why? Because it doesn't fucking matter. Everyone realizes that except you and purpedawgfan.
@CallMeBigErn are you purpedawgfan from doogman? I haven't seen anyone so play thought police on a Husky bored since I was last there.
Here's a tip...we, us message board slobs, don't need to give him more of a chance as you demand. We don't make the decisions. We post thoughts on a fucking forum and have all the leeway in the world to be wrong. Why? Because it doesn't fucking matter. Everyone realizes that except you and purpedawgfan.
Was I not just sharing my viewpoint like anyone else? "Give Jimmy a chance to prove himself on the field" = thought police? What else was there? Did this hit a nerve because I'm right? Is your rational side screaming to come out from the abyss?
No, the narrative is not great right now, and we've lost more than a few recruiting battles lately, but all is not lost. Winning on the field is the salve and we should EXPECT to win this year and next. The shitty narrative can flip real quick when/if we blow the PAC's assholes open this year, especially when the o becomes an O, ufeelme?
As for recruiting, Jimmy is still an unknown quantity. Yes, several of our recruiters seem to be awful (DB blows my mind), but it starts and stops with the head coach when it comes to closing a kid. Kids on the fence swayed towards Pete because he was a very well-known quantity. They knew exactly what they were going to get and that's an enormous boost when it comes to convincing a kid. Pete was "Dad". Great dude, great coach (with some shortcomings), 100% real, and a boss of a closer. Jimmy clearly doesn't have that aura yet. He's a complete unknown as a head coach and those recruiting battles aren't falling our way. We thought his recruiting chops as a position coach/DC would continue as HC but we were deluding ourselves. What kids are seeing is an inexperienced head coach. Covid year really fucked us. Maybe we didn't cyber recruit well or whatever, but I'm not surprised. UW sells substance and I truly believe kids need to experience that substance first hand. It's the brand we've adopted, for better or worse. Yes, we need a little more flash. That doesn't change the fact that Covid fucked us. Even so, I'm a doogin' pretty hard on a lot of the talent we have gotten in the last class and this one, stars be damned. There's a lot of high ceilings. I don't know why we should expect that these guys can't be conference winner/12 team playoff caliber players. And they're not even playing for 2, 3, 4 years. The 18,19, 20 classes have PLENTY of time left. If there's some holes that develop from the 21-22 classes, Jimmy has proven the willingness and ability to go get some serious talent in the portal.
Jimmy has coached 4 games. FOUR. Let's give the motherfucker a chance to prove himself on the sidelines. This season is more important than most (all) of the 34 seasons I can remember. We need to win, win often, and win big. And I'd argue beating Oregon (and to a lesser extent, fucking Stanford) has never been more critical. Jimmy knows this and the players know this. There's gotta be a huge shoulder chip growing in the locker room right about now. Would not be surprised to see UW frothing at the mouth this season, much more than we ever saw in the Pete era. Have a great season and this switch is getting flipped back on. Do not have a great season and we could be in for a bad time. It's simple.
Disagree.
With what? Was it the win = good and lose = bad part? You must be Team @BeerThirty where it's flipped.
Who doesn’t PGOS get into whiny pissing matches with?
Real fans
If you actually read my post that ruffled your feathers so much, I didn't say I wanted the Huskies to lose. I said I didn't want Jimmy to win because in my mind he's dropped the ball way too many times on basic stuff. He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point.
You want the Huskies to win but you want their head coach to lose.
That makes perfect sense, thanks for clearing that up.
"He steps into a great position and the 1 thing he has done well is keep that initial class together that Pete bailed on. His recruiting has been subpar and that was supposed to be a strong point."
Like I said, youre a recrooting doog. It's okay to admit it, there are a lot of your ilk.
You want a new shiny Sark like coach to bring the sizzle and the 4 stars.
Non recrooting doogFS posters understand that winning the fucking games is all that matters at the end of the day. Could care less if it was a roster full of 5 stars or a bunch of 2 star walkons.
Not only that, they understand that as momentum builds within a program, recruiting improves. Iowa State is signing 4 stars now because their coach won the fucking games.
I know this is difficult to grasp. I really do. You like the excitement of teenage drama and you oogle over pictures of 17 year olds.
UW is a program where the momentum stalled in 2019, then a global pandemic hit. Many people, including recruits, are in wait and see mode in regards to the program. Myself included.
A big 2021 season, beating Michigan, winning the conference, will spell better recruiting moving forward.
A runner up, 9-3 type season may or may not be cause for concern.
Anything less than that and fire Jimmy.
Fucking idiot. Hth.
Recruiting is vital, but I’ve never given a shit about three seasons from now. I expect to be good this season and that’s all I really care about, or at least what I care about most.
Losing Ebuka and JTT is bad. We need to get the elite guys that are right there. I don’t really give a shit about the rest of the guys.
Recruiting matters. Just not as much as good coaching. Our best season in 30 years was with a bunch of fringe top 25 type classes.
The results worsened as the recruiting inched closer to the top 10.
Its better to have higher ranked recruits than the alternative. But you can win, especially in the Pac 12, with borderline top 25 talent.
Even against Bama, I will die believing scheme was the biggest issues
We had a significant talent gap team-wise... but we had talent in positions of importance like vea in the middle etc.
But a 100% team versus a 70% team is not a favorable matchup
Went through the starters quickly so I might have missed something but the reality is the starting team was composed of a couple 2* mostly 3* and a few average 4*...and Budda.
I agree in you need some important positions to be big time but alot of our best players that season were lowly 3*s
I hear it’s impossible to replicate that. I don’t agree and the blue chip ratio was always bullshit because most of the blue chips were decent or bad 4 star players. I’ll get excited when we sign 5+ top 100 players.
I don’t get excited about low four stars that boost our ranking tho. It seems a lot of those guys suck. They get seen a lot and are always decent and have offers so they are default 4 stars.
@CallMeBigErn are you purpedawgfan from doogman? I haven't seen anyone so play thought police on a Husky bored since I was last there.
Here's a tip...we, us message board slobs, don't need to give him more of a chance as you demand. We don't make the decisions. We post thoughts on a fucking forum and have all the leeway in the world to be wrong. Why? Because it doesn't fucking matter. Everyone realizes that except you and purpedawgfan.
Was I not just sharing my viewpoint like anyone else? "Give Jimmy a chance to prove himself on the field" = thought police? What else was there? Did this hit a nerve because I'm right? Is your rational side screaming to come out from the abyss?
Fuck off, Chuckles.
A nerve? Um, no. I like you and wish you'd stop embarrassing yourself purp, that's all. Eventually you're going to tire of waving your pompoms only to be down voted and mocked and drift away. I'd rather you didn't.
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No, the narrative is not great right now, and we've lost more than a few recruiting battles lately, but all is not lost. Winning on the field is the salve and we should EXPECT to win this year and next. The shitty narrative can flip real quick when/if we blow the PAC's assholes open this year, especially when the o becomes an O, ufeelme?
As for recruiting, Jimmy is still an unknown quantity. Yes, several of our recruiters seem to be awful (DB blows my mind), but it starts and stops with the head coach when it comes to closing a kid. Kids on the fence swayed towards Pete because he was a very well-known quantity. They knew exactly what they were going to get and that's an enormous boost when it comes to convincing a kid. Pete was "Dad". Great dude, great coach (with some shortcomings), 100% real, and a boss of a closer. Jimmy clearly doesn't have that aura yet. He's a complete unknown as a head coach and those recruiting battles aren't falling our way. We thought his recruiting chops as a position coach/DC would continue as HC but we were deluding ourselves. What kids are seeing is an inexperienced head coach. Covid year really fucked us. Maybe we didn't cyber recruit well or whatever, but I'm not surprised. UW sells substance and I truly believe kids need to experience that substance first hand. It's the brand we've adopted, for better or worse. Yes, we need a little more flash. That doesn't change the fact that Covid fucked us. Even so, I'm a doogin' pretty hard on a lot of the talent we have gotten in the last class and this one, stars be damned. There's a lot of high ceilings. I don't know why we should expect that these guys can't be conference winner/12 team playoff caliber players. And they're not even playing for 2, 3, 4 years. The 18,19, 20 classes have PLENTY of time left. If there's some holes that develop from the 21-22 classes, Jimmy has proven the willingness and ability to go get some serious talent in the portal.
Jimmy has coached 4 games. FOUR. Let's give the motherfucker a chance to prove himself on the sidelines. This season is more important than most (all) of the 34 seasons I can remember. We need to win, win often, and win big. And I'd argue beating Oregon (and to a lesser extent, fucking Stanford) has never been more critical. Jimmy knows this and the players know this. There's gotta be a huge shoulder chip growing in the locker room right about now. Would not be surprised to see UW frothing at the mouth this season, much more than we ever saw in the Pete era. Have a great season and this switch is getting flipped back on. Do not have a great season and we could be in for a bad time. It's simple.
Glad you agree with me, but tldr.
That 2nd paragraph is longer than the bible
Went through the starters quickly so I might have missed something but the reality is the starting team was composed of a couple 2* mostly 3* and a few average 4*...and Budda.
I agree in you need some important positions to be big time but alot of our best players that season were lowly 3*s
Here's a tip...we, us message board slobs, don't need to give him more of a chance as you demand. We don't make the decisions. We post thoughts on a fucking forum and have all the leeway in the world to be wrong. Why? Because it doesn't fucking matter. Everyone realizes that except you and purpedawgfan.
Fuck off, Chuckles.
I don’t get excited about low four stars that boost our ranking tho. It seems a lot of those guys suck. They get seen a lot and are always decent and have offers so they are default 4 stars.