I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
They do if you pay cash. Show may not be accurate. You have to ask and sometimes be a dick about it which I can be. Most people with insurance don't care which is a big part of the problem
The last tim I went into an urgency care I had insurance. They REFUSED to tell me what my out of pocket cost would be until after I saw the physician. We fought about it too.
Fuck them. And fuck Hondo for excusing the behavior.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
So you're against Transparency and informed consumers?
You Authoritarian Nanny State types crack me up.
You’re arguing that the government should force businesses to do something, that they don’t want to do, in order to protect the customers while calling me an authoritarian nanny state type. You’re literally brain dead.
I think consumers are better at making informed decisions than bureaucrats. So I'm all about transparency, yes.
In your world, the government operates secretly, hand-in-hand with business, while hiding information from consumers. No, I don't like that.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Leftards keep trying to repeal gravity. Why does Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery keep getting better and cheaper? It’s almost like capitalism works. Why do I see more Dr. Dahrm commercials than I do for Blue Cross? Hell, I hear more Leif auto repair commercials than all the medical insurers put together. Leftards keep thinking that the VA should be the model for my health care.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
Ah yes the "concept." You're right, healthcare in this country currently isn't a free market but not for the reasons your pea sized brain has come up with. Cancer treatment is definitely a service that can be provided and market forces can come into play. They don't currently because of the 3rd party payer system that we have in this country. Your phony comparison of pickup truck shopping and cancer shopping is just the standard Hondo strawman ass fuck because you're both stupid and dishonest.
Second of all I'd challenge your assertion that a "large portion" of medical procedures don't involve a choice. Got a link for that because I know it's a claim you pulled squarely out of your ignorant ass. But even if that were the case, how would not having a "choice" make healthcare not part of the free market?
Just because I have to have a medical procedure done doesn't mean there can't be a market that provides that procedure.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
What you're failing to describe is called Elasticity of Demand. We? would expect even a fake-CPA to know what that is called.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
What you're failing to describe is called Elasticity of Demand. We? would expect even a fake-CPA to know what that is called.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
You don't read well. Our current medical system is shit. Whoever thought medical insurance tied to employment was a good idea should be shot. Then whoever thought that medical insurance should have preferred providers and your out of pocket costs vary greatly depending on whether the doctor is in network or out needs to have their balls clipped.
That's what the "free market" has provided us and it's shit. Your desire to get the government completely out of it will make problems worse. And knowing what all the prices are won't change anything really. I choose the provider that's going to do the best job.
Leftards keep trying to repeal gravity. Why does Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery keep getting better and cheaper? It’s almost like capitalism works. Why do I see more Dr. Dahrm commercials than I do for Blue Cross? Hell, I hear more Leif auto repair commercials than all the medical insurers put together. Leftards keep thinking that the VA should be the model for my health care.
This is a great point. Lasik, which is often outside the scope of insurance-based healthcare, continues to get cheaper. Providers actually advertise their prices and compete directly with customers. And whaddya know, the free market created an affordable service that isn't clouded by insurance bullshit.
Anyone criticizing this move is a dipshit. It's not a fucking magic bullet, but giving at least a semblance of transparency to healthcare pricing is a slam dunk no-brainer. Maybe there will be a hint of market rationality now that providers will know what other providers are billing insurance for and vice versa.
Leftards keep trying to repeal gravity. Why does Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery keep getting better and cheaper? It’s almost like capitalism works. Why do I see more Dr. Dahrm commercials than I do for Blue Cross? Hell, I hear more Leif auto repair commercials than all the medical insurers put together. Leftards keep thinking that the VA should be the model for my health care.
This is a great point. Lasik, which is often outside the scope of insurance-based healthcare, continues to get cheaper. Providers actually advertise their prices and compete directly with customers. And whaddya know, the free market created an affordable service that isn't clouded by insurance bullshit.
Again you are talking about a completely elective procedure. The high medical costs in our country is not based on elective procedures.
Leftards keep trying to repeal gravity. Why does Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery keep getting better and cheaper? It’s almost like capitalism works. Why do I see more Dr. Dahrm commercials than I do for Blue Cross? Hell, I hear more Leif auto repair commercials than all the medical insurers put together. Leftards keep thinking that the VA should be the model for my health care.
This is a great point. Lasik, which is often outside the scope of insurance-based healthcare, continues to get cheaper. Providers actually advertise their prices and compete directly with customers. And whaddya know, the free market created an affordable service that isn't clouded by insurance bullshit.
Again you are talking about a completely elective procedure. The high medical costs in our country is not based on elective procedures.
Leftards keep trying to repeal gravity. Why does Lasik eye surgery and plastic surgery keep getting better and cheaper? It’s almost like capitalism works. Why do I see more Dr. Dahrm commercials than I do for Blue Cross? Hell, I hear more Leif auto repair commercials than all the medical insurers put together. Leftards keep thinking that the VA should be the model for my health care.
This is a great point. Lasik, which is often outside the scope of insurance-based healthcare, continues to get cheaper. Providers actually advertise their prices and compete directly with customers. And whaddya know, the free market created an affordable service that isn't clouded by insurance bullshit.
Again you are talking about a completely elective procedure. The high medical costs in our country is not based on elective procedures.
Nobody said it was?
The point is that lasik is a microcosm of what most routine healthcare should look like. Providers negotiating with customers and full price transparency, without the stench of the flawed insurance model.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
What you're failing to describe is called Elasticity of Demand. We? would expect even a fake-CPA to know what that is called.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
You don't read well. Our current medical system is shit. Whoever thought medical insurance tied to employment was a good idea should be shot. Then whoever thought that medical insurance should have preferred providers and your out of pocket costs vary greatly depending on whether the doctor is in network or out needs to have their balls clipped.
That's what the "free market" has provided us and it's shit. Your desire to get the government completely out of it will make problems worse. And knowing what all the prices are won't change anything really. I choose the provider that's going to do the best job.
Hondo is so fucking ignorant he thinks that medical insurance tied to employment was something the "free market" came up with.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
What you're failing to describe is called Elasticity of Demand. We? would expect even a fake-CPA to know what that is called.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
You don't read well. Our current medical system is shit. Whoever thought medical insurance tied to employment was a good idea should be shot. Then whoever thought that medical insurance should have preferred providers and your out of pocket costs vary greatly depending on whether the doctor is in network or out needs to have their balls clipped.
That's what the "free market" has provided us and it's shit. Your desire to get the government completely out of it will make problems worse. And knowing what all the prices are won't change anything really. I choose the provider that's going to do the best job.
Hondo is so fucking ignorant he thinks that medical insurance tied to employment was something the "free market" came up with.
I’m sorry, how is the government forcing businesses to do something, through regulations, a win for the free market?
When you buy a car or a house or in your case, a dildo, you know what the price of it is. The whole price, out the door. Why shouldn't hospitals and health providers have to show what their prices are?
Same for medical insurance. Why do you support repealing Obamacare and getting rid of the exchanges?
Because it will be cheaper.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
No it won't be cheaper. In any way.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
HRYK.
The only thing that is clear is that neither of you understand how economics (s&d) and markets work.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Except health Care is not a free market. Eradicating cancer from a patient is not like buying a pickup. A large portion of medical procedures you don't have a choice in. Which changes the dynamics compared to a free market.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
What you're failing to describe is called Elasticity of Demand. We? would expect even a fake-CPA to know what that is called.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
You don't read well. Our current medical system is shit. Whoever thought medical insurance tied to employment was a good idea should be shot. Then whoever thought that medical insurance should have preferred providers and your out of pocket costs vary greatly depending on whether the doctor is in network or out needs to have their balls clipped.
That's what the "free market" has provided us and it's shit. Your desire to get the government completely out of it will make problems worse. And knowing what all the prices are won't change anything really. I choose the provider that's going to do the best job.
Hondo is so fucking ignorant he thinks that medical insurance tied to employment was something the "free market" came up with.
Is not ignorance, it's deceit.
With Hondo it's always hard to tell where his dishonesty stops and where his ignorance starts. Lets play it safe, it's both.
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Fuck them. And fuck Hondo for excusing the behavior.
But of course you know that since you're here #clockworkshilling for the big medical insurance companies.
In your world, the government operates secretly, hand-in-hand with business, while hiding information from consumers. No, I don't like that.
And fuck insurance companies. I wish they'd all just die.
Your more-government utopia is what is keeping markets monopolized (which only benefits the producer) and artificially high.
So if this is going to be your position and a hill you want to die on, both of you should gag on a cock. I expect that want from Hondo, not from you.
Wrap your mind around that concept and you'll see why the market is better with government intervention.
Second of all I'd challenge your assertion that a "large portion" of medical procedures don't involve a choice. Got a link for that because I know it's a claim you pulled squarely out of your ignorant ass. But even if that were the case, how would not having a "choice" make healthcare not part of the free market?
Just because I have to have a medical procedure done doesn't mean there can't be a market that provides that procedure.
Your spinning pure crap as usual.
There are other choices.
The Medical Mafia - who you've been shilling for since the beginning - does not want the people to have any other choices. This would cause demand to be more elastic and prices to come down.
The White House's plan to expose cost thus gives people real options. Which you are so clearly against.
Your continuance to #clockworkshill for the mafia makes you an enemy of the people.
That's what the "free market" has provided us and it's shit. Your desire to get the government completely out of it will make problems worse. And knowing what all the prices are won't change anything really. I choose the provider that's going to do the best job.
I had our whole family covered at no out of pocket because they were THANKFUL to have me
Getting the government more involved made it far worse
The point is that lasik is a microcosm of what most routine healthcare should look like. Providers negotiating with customers and full price transparency, without the stench of the flawed insurance model.