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  • pawz
    pawz Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 22,515 Founders Club

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    APAG really struggling in this thread.


    Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.

    Hope this helps.

    You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.

    You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
    Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?

  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    “Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”

    Fuck off.
    So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.

    1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.

    How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.

    Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.

    Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    APAG really struggling in this thread.


    Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.

    Hope this helps.

    You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.

    You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
    Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    “Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”

    Fuck off.
    So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.

    1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.

    How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.

    Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.

    Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
    @dnc

    This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.

    Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.

    Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.

    People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.

    There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    This. Fucking THIS.

    The hypocrisy of the Left is stunning here, when they are the ones deliberately holding up the funding for improvements and sacrificing men, women and children in the process.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    APAG really struggling in this thread.


    Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.

    Hope this helps.

    You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.

    You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
    What's with the Labels, man?
  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,542 Standard Supporter
    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    “Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”

    Fuck off.
    So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.

    1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.

    How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.

    Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.

    Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
    Appears?!?

  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    The last year has filled the camps to overflowing by people crossing the border on fake asylum claims etc. We're not just going to let them go free

    The caravans were to set this all up as a callous political stunt that your girl is now exploiting

    So now it's a crises

    We need to send them back and stop anymore

    Nobody is buying the bullshit

  • PurpleThrobber
    PurpleThrobber Member Posts: 48,542 Standard Supporter

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    The last year has filled the camps to overflowing by people crossing the border on fake asylum claims etc. We're not just going to let them go free

    The caravans were to set this all up as a callous political stunt that your girl is now exploiting

    So now it's a crises

    We need to send them back and stop anymore

    Nobody is buying the bullshit


    Wrong.

    APAG is.

    Hook.line.sinker.



  • USMChawk
    USMChawk Member Posts: 1,800

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    “Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”

    Fuck off.
    So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.

    1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.

    How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.

    Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.

    Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    APAG really struggling in this thread.


    Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.

    Hope this helps.

    You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.

    You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
    Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?

    Doogles said:

    Doogles said:

    Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump

    I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
    How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.

    The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.

    I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
    “Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”

    Fuck off.
    So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.

    1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.

    How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.

    Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.

    Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
    @dnc

    This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.

    Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.

    Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.

    People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.

    There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
    Great, we can go back to calling Bruce Jenner a man. And Bruce, for that matter.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    pawz said:

    APAG really struggling in this thread.


    Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.

    Hope this helps.

    You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.

    You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
    Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
    Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?

    Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.