Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”
Fuck off.
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”
Fuck off.
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.
Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.
Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.
People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.
There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
No.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. They all had the option to check-in at the border before they crossed. They opted out of that methodology.
A poont you flagrantly ignore.
And whatever we do to them after they make that choice is fine.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
Yawn.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.
APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board.
APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board.
Any bets on if he voiced opposition to these detention centers when Obama was operating them?
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
Yawn.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human.
APAGs 4 day virtue signaling meltdown marathon has been epic.
Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board.
Any bets on if he voiced opposition to these detention centers when Obama was operating them?
They weren't concentration camps then. They were like summer camps with crafts, swimming, and sing alongs. Certainly no kids had wet pants as they do in concentration camps.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
Yawn.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human.
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor system
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
Yawn.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human.
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor system
Which is what APAG wants but he just want do away with any detention and just allow them to come straight on in.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Because if he were to acknowledge that there is an element of choice at play here with these people who are in these "concentration camps" his entire argument would fall apart and he knows it so he just ignores and avoids that part of the equation.
It can be very frustrating when people avoid your obvious bait.
Yeah, the fact that people are free to leave these "concentration camps" and return home anytime they choose to is obviously just "bait."
You avoid it because you're a dipshit and it nukes your entire argument.
Yawn.
They’re not free to leave. Go ahead. I fucking dare you.
All they have to do is say they want to return to their home country. They aren't free to leave if they say they want to continue their asylum claim. They are choosing to be put into a detention center. Unaccompanied minors are a different story.
What is this gibberish? You said they are free to leave the concentration camps. Where is the evidence for this? What is the law allowing this?
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human.
We don't detain them indefinitely. Courts have ruled on that. We can hold them long enough to give them a date and release them into America on the honor system
Which is what APAG wants but he just want do away with any detention and just allow them to come straight on in.
"Activist" groups have been all over Central America forming caravans and telling "migrants" what to expect when they willingly walk into a death camp and how they will get out. One example
Physical Surroundings at Immigration Detention Centers In most cases, men and women are housed separately; although there are also a number of family detention facilities, which primarily house women and child asylum seekers. Some detention centers have immigration courts and asylum offices inside the same buildings.
Not only do detention centers feel like prisons, in many cases, they are actually housed in correctional facilities, which are either operated by the federal government, the state, or an outsourced private company. Also, until you are released on bond or "reasonable supervision" or are granted the right to remain lawfully in the U.S., you may not know for how long you will be detained.
Do not let this discourage you. Instead, keep focusing on preparing a strong application in your defense, such as an application for asylum. Try to obtain as much information about the possibility for a bond hearing or to be released on a supervision order—your lawyer or a legal aid organization can help you with this.
Living conditions are difficult at detention centers. You will likely be transported to a detention center in handcuffs, and sometimes in shackles. Many of your personal belongings will be taken away from you, and you will be assigned a specific bed. The guards will then refer to you based on the number of your bed or using your alien registration number.
You will most likely have to wear a jumpsuit uniform, and you will be guarded by uniformed officers. You will not be able to move around freely. You will sleep in a large room, with other detainees. Your privacy will be limited. Throughout the day, the guards will conduct several “counts” (during which you will be required to be next to your bed, while they are counting all the detainees). During “count” times, you will not be able to meet with visitors. Also, if you are meeting with visitors or your attorney during meal times, you might not be provided with food later.
Due to their remote location, some detention centers are far away from immigration courts. Instead of seeing your Immigration Judge, you might have any interviews and hearings conducted through video conferences.
Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”
Fuck off.
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
Both taxes and concentrations camps are NOT optional.
Hope this helps.
You have options when it comes to taxes. You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
That sounds exactly like the option to run into the electric fence at a concentration camp.
You just don’t have the balls to make the tuff choice.
Calling something, that is by definition a concentration camp, a concentration camp is unacceptable. Comparing having to pay your taxes to killing yourself in a concentration camp, totally cool.
Why are you having such a hard time acknowledging that the crux of this discussion hinges on option - or lack thereof?
Up until a week ago the border was a fake crisis by Trump
I really don’t understand what you’re trying to do here. I still don’t agree that people trying to cross the border is a crisis but us treating them as sub human is.
How about the left works with Trump and signs off on the requested resources to build the wall and include better facilities/increased medical payroll for asylum seekers/immigrants in holding? Toss it in the negotiations.
The right can feel safer at night from illegals (whether it significantly helps or not idk or gaf) and the left can sleep better knowing all those banging at the gates will be treated better than residents of skid row.
I don't like the optics of it either, but Jesus Christ swallow your pride, play ball, and actually pretend you care about the people you're crying for.
“Hey we’re committing human rights violations, just comprise with us and we’ll stop”
Fuck off.
So you choose to take your ball and go home, shocker.
1st priority is keep American citizens secure. Sick as shit people are throwing themselves at the doorstep in amounts we aren't equipped to properly vet and care for.
How about we fund the facilities to better take care of them and help organize this chaos.
Get the fuck out of here "committing human rights violations". You're the burglar breaking in that falls through the roof and sues the homeowner you're robbing.
Your random political opinion generator has been broken for sometime. Your takes used to be hot, odd and refreshing. Unfortunately it appears you've caught TDS, God save you.
This is why calling them what they are matters. People are ready and willing to justify and accept what’s happening.
Pawz is arguing that it doesn’t matter what we do to them because they chose to try and come to America.
Doogles is fine with it being just another negotiation point in politics as he hand waves human rights violations.
People are going to try and normalize this and I think watering down what’s happening because the definition of what it is makes you uncomfortable helps to do that.
There are many steps after this but we’re on the fucking stairwell. That’s the truth.
No.
There is a right way and a wrong way to do things. They all had the option to check-in at the border before they crossed. They opted out of that methodology.
A poont you flagrantly ignore.
And whatever we do to them after they make that choice is fine.
Stop treating the ICE agents like the Gestapo and you might be worth engaging on the subject. But you Lefties can't not demonize regular American citizens simply for doing their jobs as best they can, under very difficult conditions.
And did I mention that a huge number of Border Patrol agents are Hispanic?
Someone should inform that two year old covered in his own piss and mucus that he can just leave.
Obviously you’ve never parented.
Piss and mucus on a two year old is called ‘Thursday’.
Then they get cleaned up.
Good parents don’t march their two year olds across hundreds of miles either.
And god forbid 15 kids have the flu. That’s called ‘daycare’ in the US.
Kids piss and poop themselves and have runny snotty noses and throw up. Jesus Christ.
But that’s the same as death camps this week because AOC says so.
It’s not the same thing as a death camp. Glad we can agree there is a distinction.
You really are one of the softest little bitches I've encountered in the cyberworld. No rudder, no backbone, no real mind of your own. Like a little dandelion seed. Wherever the wind tells you to go.
Because the crush of migration at the southern border in recent months has overwhelmed U.S. immigration infrastructure, initial incarceration for the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children who have arrived there has averaged four days, the officials said.
“I don’t have any beds, because we’re meant to be short-term processing — not even holding,” one CBP official said of the agency’s facilities here in the Rio Grande Valley, at which some children are sleeping on mats on the floor. “I have stools and benches, but I have no beds. . . . Our facilities are not built for long-term holding, and they’re certainly not built to house children for very long at all.”
That blood is on your team's hands
And thank you for admitting you want open borders. Agree to disagree
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Unless of course he is posting from the boarder and actually attempting to do something about it. Of course he’s not though. Too busy yelling about it on a football message board.
Want to give us your solution or do you just want to keep shitting on your fellow Americans?
Open borders?
Say it
As I’ve said, they choose to try and come to America. Whether it’s a justified asylum claim or not does not excuse us detaining them indefinitely and treating them as sub human.
The judges would have accepted 99.81%
Are you denying that courts have set a limit and illegals get released if they aren't a criminal?
Ready to share your solution yet?
And did I mention that a huge number of Border Patrol agents are Hispanic?
Such a warm, inviting and diverse community. Should fit in well.
It’s cute that you think Trump and his cronies give a fuck about what the courts say.
Just like a boomer to shit all over the place and then demand a millennial clean it up. We can start by abolishing ICE.
Thank you
Because the crush of migration at the southern border in recent months has overwhelmed U.S. immigration infrastructure, initial incarceration for the tens of thousands of unaccompanied children who have arrived there has averaged four days, the officials said.
“I don’t have any beds, because we’re meant to be short-term processing — not even holding,” one CBP official said of the agency’s facilities here in the Rio Grande Valley, at which some children are sleeping on mats on the floor. “I have stools and benches, but I have no beds. . . . Our facilities are not built for long-term holding, and they’re certainly not built to house children for very long at all.”
That blood is on your team's hands
And thank you for admitting you want open borders. Agree to disagree
I'll let the ageist crap go