Avantae Williams
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Genius logic, totally disregarding the cyclical nature of college basketball rosters. Bruce Pearl is a better coach than Calipari, Coach K, and Roy Williams using this logic. He's only been at Auburn 5 years and had a better season than any of them this year!!StrongArmCobra said:
Not at all. How long has Altman been on the job? 9 years. If Hopkins and UW are better than Oregon and Altman in Hopkins' third year on the job, I think it's safe to say Hopkins is the better coach.ntxduck said:
It was in reference to Altman having a better body of work than Hopkins. Until hop makes the final four, there is no discussion.StrongArmCobra said:
Never said anything like that. Just that Hopkin's team is gonna mop the court with Altman's team in Hopkin's third year on the job.ntxduck said:
UW gonna make the final 4 this season? LolStrongArmCobra said:
You won't have to wait long. Just tune in this season.creepycoug said:
That's a lot of trash talk on behalf of a coach who got RAPED by the other coach this great season you reference.StrongArmCobra said:
The hell I would! Hopkins was the conference coach of the year at UW his first two seasons as a head coach, took us from worst in the Pac to a tournament team in two years, and he's a monster recruiter. Fuck Altman. Hop is gonna spank Altman's pasty white ass this season.creepycoug said:
Altman is a great coach. You'd shave your pussy to have him. Sometimes you gotta give credit where it's due.StrongArmCobra said:
Point is, Altman had no idea if the accusation was legit or not. Any coach with integrity would suspend those players immediately and indefinitely until the investigation into the allegation is finished. He did nothing and allowed them to keep playing until the Oregon athletic department suspended the players themselves. That's some Art Briles shit.1to392831weretaken said:
For the sake of pure schadenfreude, I read the whole damned police report after it was published somewhere. I had my pitchfork all sharpened and my torch all soaked in kerosene, but reading the report did not return the expected results. The more I read, the more I was both grossed out and surprised at how sympathetic I became to the players' defense. It's hard to draw any conclusion from the police report other than: 1.) This is filth that would tarnish even Sven's brand (NTTAWWT), and 2.) this was consensual filth that the girl later regretted. If you want to kick guys out of school or off a basketball team because they're "yucky," I guess that's up to the AD and the fans that buy tickets, but I couldn't see where any laws--or even school policies--were broken/violated.StrongArmCobra said:
Joke didn't hit the mark if that was the case.creepycoug said:
Firstly, I think he was joking. We makes jokes outside of the hood.StrongArmCobra said:
Not sure those two things qualify a kid as a "grown man". Both signs of immaturity and poor decision making skills.RatherBeBrewing said:The main reason I wanted Williams is because he has neck tats and two kids by 16, he’s already a grown man.
Secondly, we? didn't mind when Curtis Williams ("I love you buddy!") was roaming the secondary in Montlake, and he had all kinds of judgment issues.
I was like 8 years old when Curtis Williams was at UW. Never saw any of those guys Neuheisel guys play. Williams certainly wouldn't be recruited by Petersen and company. Your current basketball coach knowingly played guys accused of gang rape.
There are roughly 85,000,000 gang bang videos on the internet. I'm sure at least a handful of the poor women in those videos regretted it after the fact. Some of these women were almost certainly legitimately drugged/coerced/etc. into doing something they didn't want to do, and this is a serious issue. The others were just victims of their own poor choices. The Oregon basketball case, at least by all available evidence, seems more like the latter than the former--and this coming from a total #metoo hippy liberal pussy who's very close to a victim of campus rape before it became a big issue. I REALLY wanted to hate those players based off the headlines, but it ended up being more of a "those guys are fucking gross" and move on kind of a thing.
Also, one of the players accused was under investigation for sexual assault at a previous school before transferring to Oregon. Altman is trash.
Altman has a body of work. Hopkins is a good coach, but he has some work to do before I'd say he's better than Altman.
UW basketball has one decent year that ended with getting blown out in Vegas and blown out in the 2nd round of the tourney. It’s a good start but still a long ways to go before you can even compare hop to Dana or even Sean Miller
Altman has been a D1 head coach since 1989. Took him 28 years to get to a Final Four. It's pretty obvious Hopkins has more upside.
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Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH. -
Almost as embarrassing as you trying to push "above average", which is what really begat the shit show.dnc said:Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH.
You're being APAG pushing concentration camps. Just stop already. -
BTP calling him elite began the shit show.creepycoug said:
Almost as embarrassing as you trying to push "above average", which is what really begat the shit show.dnc said:Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH.
You're being APAG pushing concentration camps. Just stop already.
He's closer to above average than elite.
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Tomorrow, when I sober up, I’m going to explain how torts work when you’re suing a public institution AND I’ll chip in some basketball statistics AND I’ll tie it all into Avantae (Tae as the old white guys and his baby mommas call him) Williams.
No promises I’ll remember tomorrow, but I know if I do then I’ll be going toe-to-toe with some fucking geniuses so I’ll be prepared. -
Hope away; it doesn't.dnc said:
BTP calling him elite began the shit show.creepycoug said:
Almost as embarrassing as you trying to push "above average", which is what really begat the shit show.dnc said:Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH.
You're being APAG pushing concentration camps. Just stop already.
He's closer to above average than elite.
hth
Your're playing semantics. IDGAF about the word elite. People mean different things by that. One guy would say John Wooden, which would disqualify Dean Smith. Somebody else would say it's lower than that. I threw out a new baseline: best coach in the conference. You watched and stayed on the sideline so you could keep pressing your first comment, which was way more off than BTP's assessment. Stop.
Coach K is elite. Altman is not Coach K, but then again, he doesn't recruit to Duke either.
But he's a really good coach. He fucking proved it again this season by pulling that shit season out of the garbage and making a run in the tourney. While Hop shit his pants in the confermce tourney. -
I look forward to all that.RatherBeBrewing said:Tomorrow, when I sober up, I’m going to explain how torts work when you’re suing a public institution AND I’ll chip in some basketball statistics AND I’ll tie it all into Avantae (Tae as the old white guys and his baby mommas call him) Williams.
No promises I’ll remember tomorrow, but I know if I do then I’ll be going toe-to-toe with some fucking geniuses so I’ll be prepared. -
I didn't argue with you on best coach in the conference. If I'm ranking Pac12 coaches I put Altman number one.creepycoug said:
Hope away; it doesn't.dnc said:
BTP calling him elite began the shit show.creepycoug said:
Almost as embarrassing as you trying to push "above average", which is what really begat the shit show.dnc said:Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH.
You're being APAG pushing concentration camps. Just stop already.
He's closer to above average than elite.
hth
Your're playing semantics. IDGAF about the word elite. People mean different things by that. One guy would say John Wooden, which would disqualify Dean Smith. Somebody else would say it's lower than that. I threw out a new baseline: best coach in the conference. You watched and stayed on the sideline so you could keep pressing your first comment, which was way more off than BTP's assessment. Stop.
Coach K is elite. Altman is not Coach K, but then again, he doesn't recruit to Duke either.
But he's a really good coach. He fucking proved it again this season by pulling that shit season out of the garbage and making a run in the tourney. While Hop shit his pants in the confermce tourney.
That doesn't get him anywhere close to elite. -
But didn't walk back "slightly above average, maybe good". JFC.dnc said:
I didn't argue with you on best coach in the conference. If I'm ranking Pac12 coaches I put Altman number one.creepycoug said:
Hope away; it doesn't.dnc said:
BTP calling him elite began the shit show.creepycoug said:
Almost as embarrassing as you trying to push "above average", which is what really begat the shit show.dnc said:Anyone calling Dana Altman elite should never be allowed to post on APAG's bored again.
He's has made it past the round of 32 4 times in 13 years coaching in the Power 5.
That's one more than Lorenzo Romar. Yes he made it further than Romar twice in that time. I'm not saying he's Romar, don't twist.
But he's a long fucking way from elite.
One of the most embarrassing threads in the history of HH.
You're being APAG pushing concentration camps. Just stop already.
He's closer to above average than elite.
hth
Your're playing semantics. IDGAF about the word elite. People mean different things by that. One guy would say John Wooden, which would disqualify Dean Smith. Somebody else would say it's lower than that. I threw out a new baseline: best coach in the conference. You watched and stayed on the sideline so you could keep pressing your first comment, which was way more off than BTP's assessment. Stop.
Coach K is elite. Altman is not Coach K, but then again, he doesn't recruit to Duke either.
But he's a really good coach. He fucking proved it again this season by pulling that shit season out of the garbage and making a run in the tourney. While Hop shit his pants in the confermce tourney.
That doesn't get him anywhere close to elite.
Done. You're APAG on this and my attention span just won't hold. -
Creep does raise a good point on the definition of elite. To me it's like top 5ish in the nation, but we can be generous and expand it to top 10. There's no way elite goes beyond that.
And "coach" encompasses everything a HC is responsible for, including hiring assistants, recruiting, evaluation and x's and o's.
Elite coaches (not necessarily in order)
K
Calipari
Roy
Izzo
Wright
Others in top 10
Bennett
Self
Few
Marshall
Beard
Altman is in the Rick Barnes/Bruce Pearl/Matt Painter tier. You're not taking him over any of those ten guys I listed.
