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  • ZoneUWZoneUW Member Posts: 794
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    Good get, but pales in comparison to the huskies getting a verbal commitment from:

    Literally nobody
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.
  • creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,706
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    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
    Because he specifically targets "4-star" recruits that he only has to beat out teams like North Carolina to get. His recruiting decisions are heavily based on star ratings and finding overrated "4-star" guys that aren't highly coveted by big brand schools that Oregon can realistically get. Sure he's gotten a couple of legit 4-star recruits but more often than not, they're left over recruits the big schools didn't want. When a coach is that worried about star ratings, he's not doing objective talent evaluations. He's star chasing.

    There are guys rated "3-stars" right now that are better than Greenfield like Makell Esteen that UW will take because they do their own talent evaluations. Cristobal chases internet star ratings as much as he can. That is abundantly obvious. It is extremely unlikely that he just so happens to seek out overrated 4-star kids all across the country and doesn't have their star rating in mind while he's doing it. He's an idiot. His ego will not allow him to take a better player that's an underrated "3-star" kid if an overrated "4-star" kid is available to him.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
    Because he specifically targets "4-star" recruits that he only has to beat out teams like North Carolina to get. His recruiting decisions are heavily based on star ratings and finding overrated "4-star" guys that aren't highly coveted by big brand schools that Oregon can realistically get. Sure he's gotten a couple of legit 4-star recruits but more often than not, they're left over recruits the big schools didn't want. When a coach is that worried about star ratings, he's not doing objective talent evaluations. He's star chasing.

    There are guys rated "3-stars" right now that are better than Greenfield like Makell Esteen that UW will take because they do their own talent evaluations. Cristobal chases internet star ratings as much as he can. That is abundantly obvious. It is extremely unlikely that he just so happens to seek out overrated 4-star kids all across the country and doesn't have their star rating in mind while he's doing it. He's an idiot. His ego will not allow him to take a better player that's an underrated "3-star" kid if an overrated "4-star" kid is available to him.

    Well, he’s a 3 star composite. So, there’s that. He also recruited him before he was evaluated before 247.

    This is what you do, SAC. You accept the weakest, worst case scenario narrative and apply it to all circumstances.

    1) Trey Benson 3* composite is the top of the rb board.

    2) JHOP just predicted an 84 composite WR last name Brown over other higher rates WRs that want to come to Oregon.

    3) Latu was a take very early on

    The staff likes Jared Greenfield. It was before he ever got a 90 rating from 247.

    You are so full of BS.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    Just looked at Jared’s twitter.

    Offered 01/2018. Made a 4* in 3/2018.

    Oregon was his 2nd offer.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    lawsandl said:

    Just looked at Jared’s twitter.

    Offered 01/2018. Made a 4* in 3/2018.

    Oregon was his 2nd offer.

    I'm sure hime getting a ratings bump made his offer committable.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited June 2019
    lawsandl said:

    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
    Because he specifically targets "4-star" recruits that he only has to beat out teams like North Carolina to get. His recruiting decisions are heavily based on star ratings and finding overrated "4-star" guys that aren't highly coveted by big brand schools that Oregon can realistically get. Sure he's gotten a couple of legit 4-star recruits but more often than not, they're left over recruits the big schools didn't want. When a coach is that worried about star ratings, he's not doing objective talent evaluations. He's star chasing.

    There are guys rated "3-stars" right now that are better than Greenfield like Makell Esteen that UW will take because they do their own talent evaluations. Cristobal chases internet star ratings as much as he can. That is abundantly obvious. It is extremely unlikely that he just so happens to seek out overrated 4-star kids all across the country and doesn't have their star rating in mind while he's doing it. He's an idiot. His ego will not allow him to take a better player that's an underrated "3-star" kid if an overrated "4-star" kid is available to him.

    Well, he’s a 3 star composite. So, there’s that. He also recruited him before he was evaluated before 247.

    This is what you do, SAC. You accept the weakest, worst case scenario narrative and apply it to all circumstances.

    1) Trey Benson 3* composite is the top of the rb board.

    2) JHOP just predicted an 84 composite WR last name Brown over other higher rates WRs that want to come to Oregon.

    3) Latu was a take very early on

    The staff likes Jared Greenfield. It was before he ever got a 90 rating from 247.

    You are so full of BS.
    He was reported by every outlet as a new "4-star safety commit" to Oregon. That massages Cristobal's ego, gives him job security as a recruiter, and drives the hype of Oregon recruiting. Other 4-star recruits don't follow recruiting that closely. All they see is Greenfield being rated a 4-star by 247 and committing to Oregon "over a USC offer". They don't know that his USC offer wasn't committable and his best other committable offer at the time was North Carolina. That drives hype and momentum for Oregon even though it's undeserved.

    I never said they don't recruit 3-star kids. They recruit them when they HAVE to which is gonna be a lot this class. The point is, Cristobal specifically targets the overrated 4-star kids as much as he possibly can and prefers taking them over kids rated 3-stars every time. He would take a "4-star" kid that sucks over a "3-star" kid that's better at the same position. He's star chasing. It's obvious. Just because there are fewer of them for him to recruit this class than last class doesn't mean shit. He craves the perceived achievement of bringing in higher rated kids even though most of the ones that he gets are not coveted by the big schools. I'm not making up some "worst case scenario". That's just the way it is with him. Any observer from the outside looking in can see that. Maybe if you stopped eating his ass and opened your eyes you'd notice it too.
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    lawsandl said:

    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
    Because he specifically targets "4-star" recruits that he only has to beat out teams like North Carolina to get. His recruiting decisions are heavily based on star ratings and finding overrated "4-star" guys that aren't highly coveted by big brand schools that Oregon can realistically get. Sure he's gotten a couple of legit 4-star recruits but more often than not, they're left over recruits the big schools didn't want. When a coach is that worried about star ratings, he's not doing objective talent evaluations. He's star chasing.

    There are guys rated "3-stars" right now that are better than Greenfield like Makell Esteen that UW will take because they do their own talent evaluations. Cristobal chases internet star ratings as much as he can. That is abundantly obvious. It is extremely unlikely that he just so happens to seek out overrated 4-star kids all across the country and doesn't have their star rating in mind while he's doing it. He's an idiot. His ego will not allow him to take a better player that's an underrated "3-star" kid if an overrated "4-star" kid is available to him.

    Well, he’s a 3 star composite. So, there’s that. He also recruited him before he was evaluated before 247.

    This is what you do, SAC. You accept the weakest, worst case scenario narrative and apply it to all circumstances.

    1) Trey Benson 3* composite is the top of the rb board.

    2) JHOP just predicted an 84 composite WR last name Brown over other higher rates WRs that want to come to Oregon.

    3) Latu was a take very early on

    The staff likes Jared Greenfield. It was before he ever got a 90 rating from 247.

    You are so full of BS.
    He was reported by every outlet as a new "4-star safety commit" to Oregon. That massages Cristobal's ego, gives him job security as a recruiter, and drives the hype of Oregon recruiting. Other 4-star recruits don't follow recruiting that closely. All they see is Greenfield being rated a 4-star by 247 and committing to Oregon "over a USC offer". They don't know that his USC offer wasn't committable and his best other committable offer at the time was North Carolina. That drives hype and momentum for Oregon even though it's undeserved.

    I never said they don't recruit 3-star kids. They recruit them when they HAVE to which is gonna be a lot this class. The point is, Cristobal specifically targets the overrated 4-star kids as much as he possibly can and prefers taking them over kids rated 3-stars every time. He would take a "4-star" kid that sucks over a "3-star" kid that's better at the same position. He's star chasing. It's obvious. Just because there are fewer of them for him to recruit this class than last class doesn't mean shit. He craves the perceived achievement of bringing in higher rated kids even though most of the ones that he gets are not coveted by the big schools. I'm not making up some "worst case scenario". That's just the way it is with him. Any observer from the outside looking in can see that. Maybe if you stopped eating his ass and opened your eyes you'd notice it too.
    That’s why he’s visiting Trey Benson an 85 composite before Tirek Murphy a 92 composite at RB? There is a shit ton of overrated RB talent out there.

    How about Sam Brown an 84 composite just a week ago over any other overrated for star WR?

    Also, the staff has James Smith and John Humphrey as their next db targets. These are 84 and 83 composite players.

    Lastly, media goes with highest ranking for clickbait you moron. That has nothing to with Cristobal.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited June 2019
    lawsandl said:

    lawsandl said:

    Oregon beat out North Carolina for him. Cristobal doing his thing finding those overrated 4-stars. What an idiot. Why star chase? Why not just take the kids you think are the best available to you regardless of their star ranking? Maybe because he sucks at evaluating talent? Maybe because his blowhard ego forces him to sniff out overrated 4-stars to make his class rankings look better? Maybe to drive recruiting hype? Maybe for his job security? Probably all of the above.

    That's a lot of maybes and probablys for an expert opinion.

    But your logic leaves something on the bathroom floor.

    Are stars and "who you think are the best available" mutually exclusive concepts down in Tac Town?

    How do you know he doesn't think he's the best available?

    On what basis do you conclude he doesn't have talent eval chops?
    Because he specifically targets "4-star" recruits that he only has to beat out teams like North Carolina to get. His recruiting decisions are heavily based on star ratings and finding overrated "4-star" guys that aren't highly coveted by big brand schools that Oregon can realistically get. Sure he's gotten a couple of legit 4-star recruits but more often than not, they're left over recruits the big schools didn't want. When a coach is that worried about star ratings, he's not doing objective talent evaluations. He's star chasing.

    There are guys rated "3-stars" right now that are better than Greenfield like Makell Esteen that UW will take because they do their own talent evaluations. Cristobal chases internet star ratings as much as he can. That is abundantly obvious. It is extremely unlikely that he just so happens to seek out overrated 4-star kids all across the country and doesn't have their star rating in mind while he's doing it. He's an idiot. His ego will not allow him to take a better player that's an underrated "3-star" kid if an overrated "4-star" kid is available to him.

    Well, he’s a 3 star composite. So, there’s that. He also recruited him before he was evaluated before 247.

    This is what you do, SAC. You accept the weakest, worst case scenario narrative and apply it to all circumstances.

    1) Trey Benson 3* composite is the top of the rb board.

    2) JHOP just predicted an 84 composite WR last name Brown over other higher rates WRs that want to come to Oregon.

    3) Latu was a take very early on

    The staff likes Jared Greenfield. It was before he ever got a 90 rating from 247.

    You are so full of BS.
    He was reported by every outlet as a new "4-star safety commit" to Oregon. That massages Cristobal's ego, gives him job security as a recruiter, and drives the hype of Oregon recruiting. Other 4-star recruits don't follow recruiting that closely. All they see is Greenfield being rated a 4-star by 247 and committing to Oregon "over a USC offer". They don't know that his USC offer wasn't committable and his best other committable offer at the time was North Carolina. That drives hype and momentum for Oregon even though it's undeserved.

    I never said they don't recruit 3-star kids. They recruit them when they HAVE to which is gonna be a lot this class. The point is, Cristobal specifically targets the overrated 4-star kids as much as he possibly can and prefers taking them over kids rated 3-stars every time. He would take a "4-star" kid that sucks over a "3-star" kid that's better at the same position. He's star chasing. It's obvious. Just because there are fewer of them for him to recruit this class than last class doesn't mean shit. He craves the perceived achievement of bringing in higher rated kids even though most of the ones that he gets are not coveted by the big schools. I'm not making up some "worst case scenario". That's just the way it is with him. Any observer from the outside looking in can see that. Maybe if you stopped eating his ass and opened your eyes you'd notice it too.
    That’s why he’s visiting Trey Benson an 85 composite before Tirek Murphy a 92 composite at RB? There is a shit ton of overrated RB talent out there.

    How about Sam Brown an 84 composite just a week ago over any other overrated for star WR?

    Also, the staff has James Smith and John Humphrey as their next db targets. These are 84 and 83 composite players.

    Lastly, media goes with highest ranking for clickbait you moron. That has nothing to with Cristobal.
    You're not fucking proving anything you idiot. Oregon's 2020 recruiting class is going to suck ass. I already know that. They are gonna have to take a bunch of 3-star guys not because they WANT to but because they HAVE to. Like I said, there aren't as many overrated 4-star guys available to them this class, especially not from California. You citing 3-star guys they're probably gonna HAVE to take is nothing I didn't already know. Oregon absolutely star chases. They're just not gonna be able to do it this class like they did last class. Fucking enjoy getting nothing but 3-star offensive lineman this class bitch.
  • DJDuckDJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
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    Quote to remember from SAC “Oregon’s 2020 recruiting class is going to suck ass”.
  • DJDuckDJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
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    Trey Benson 6’1” 200. 4.49 40
  • lawsandllawsandl Member Posts: 1,555
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    DJDuck said:

    Quote to remember from SAC “Oregon’s 2020 recruiting class is going to suck ass”.


    He’s such blowhard it’s actually incredible. The double speak rivals the ministry of propaganda in the USSR.
  • DJDuckDJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
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    Trey Benson has more offers than Marcus did.
  • BallzBallz Member Posts: 4,735
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    edited June 2019
    DJDuck said:

    Trey Benson 6’1” 200. 4.49 40

    Is he better than Sam Adams? Didn't think so.

    Way to try to pivot tho.
  • backthepackbackthepack Member Posts: 19,785
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    DJDuck said:
    That’s not even the right Trey Benson. That’s a d2 CB. Holy shit you are a fucking idiot
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