Trump’s Gambit starts to pay off. Mexico pledges 6,000 troops to It’s Southern Border
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No we push them all south of the Panama canal. We take no one. Unless Throbber thinks they're hot....salemcoog said:
So you want to take on another 100 million welfare recipients??? No thanks. I'd be all for taking the coasts though. They can have the rest. We don't need their oil.Sledog said:
No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.RaceBannon said:
Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economyGreenRiverGatorz said:
Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.salemcoog said:It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.
Another oil rich country struggling to get by.
Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial
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Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala are stupid. They should employ the Grand Duchy of Fenwick Gambit.
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Honestly, I don't know how to stop it. I'm fundamentally opposed to almost anything that runs contrary to free trade and don't think tariffs will work as a negotiating tactics. Meanwhile domestic businesses will only get hurt in the process. But if Trump follows through at least I can put that hypothesis to the test and we'll find out if this is an effective mechanism or not.salemcoog said:
Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.GreenRiverGatorz said:
Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.salemcoog said:It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.
So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?
Outside of that I suppose you could reallocate aid dollars to countries like Honduras and El Salvador and try to stem the problem at the source. But given our illustrious history of attempts to help other countries, the real unfucking will have to come from the countries themselves.
So all that's to say I don't think you really can incentivize Mexico to do much. We reap the punishment of the migration, and I don't think there's too many levers for us to pull unless we really want to go nuclear on them (and any politician who does that will never recover from the anti-business branding they'll get, and Mexico knows it). We're at their mercy whether we like it or not.
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I would actually agree with the aid approach if we could find a way to get it to the people on the ground who need it. Our aid ends up in a despots bank account
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Land mines!
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Yep, no chance we find a way to actually improve their country without the gangs or politicians siphoning off 95% of it. Those cesspools have to help themselves.RaceBannon said:I would actually agree with the aid approach if we could find a way to get it to the people on the ground who need it. Our aid ends up in a despots bank account
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Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.
Migrants’ Remittances to Mexico, Central America Jump to $53 Billion in 2018
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/
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How do you do that? Take a fee off any wire transfer coming from someone with a Hispanic surname? Bank accounts don't need verification of citizenship. Or are you proposing a tariff that includes money sent from US citizens to Mexico?DJDuck said:Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.
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Central American Migrant Remittances Breaking Records, Beats Foreign Investment
https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/05/31/central-american-migrant-remittances-breaking-records-beats-foreign-investment/#291872d72a7f -
Mexicans will pay for the wall!DJDuck said:Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.
Migrants’ Remittances to Mexico, Central America Jump to $53 Billion in 2018
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/
