Trump’s Gambit starts to pay off. Mexico pledges 6,000 troops to It’s Southern Border

DJDuck

I’m sure even with this small victory the hand-wringing, pusillanimous, craven little liberal creeps that would rather harm America and it’s ci tizens r at her than help Trump are severely butthurt.


Faced with Trump’s Threat of June 10 Tariff Deadline — Mexico Pledges to Deploy 6,000 Troops to the Border with Guatemala

Mexico announced on Thursday they are deploying 6,000 troops to their southern border with Guatemala in an attempt to stem the tide of illegal immigration. This is Mexico’s latest attempt to ward off new tariffs from Washington.



https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/06/faced-with-trumps-threat-of-june-10-tariff-deadline-mexico-pledges-to-deploy-6000-troops-to-the-border-with-guatemala/

RaceBannon

BUT ITS A TAX

Kaepsknee

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

GreenRiverGatorz

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Kaepsknee

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

HustlinOwl

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

You're trying to fix the symptom not the disease.

RaceBannon

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

Kaepsknee

HustlinOwl said:

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

You're trying to fix the symptom not the disease.

Fuck off Donkey and get back in your truck.

Sledog

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

Kaepsknee

Sledog said:

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

So you want to take on another 100 million welfare recipients??? No thanks. I'd be all for taking the coasts though. They can have the rest. We don't need their oil.

PurpleThrobber

Sledog said:

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

Fuck that -

Flank them and invade from the south through Venezuela and Colombia. Way more incentive, much higher reward.

Sledog

salemcoog said:

Sledog said:

RaceBannon said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Plus the money that comes back to Mexico is a big part of their economy

Another oil rich country struggling to get by.

Annexation is the answer though perhaps a tad controversial

Bring America to Mexico

No annexation! Just declare war and push all before us south until we hit the Panama canal. We take it back and we can hold that border. Let them be the south's problem. We get all the oil and our American factories plus tequila. Bulldoze it and build beach houses.

So you want to take on another 100 million welfare recipients??? No thanks. I'd be all for taking the coasts though. They can have the rest. We don't need their oil.

No we push them all south of the Panama canal. We take no one. Unless Throbber thinks they're hot....

DJDuck

Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala are stupid. They should employ the Grand Duchy of Fenwick Gambit.

GreenRiverGatorz

salemcoog said:

GreenRiverGatorz said:

salemcoog said:

It's not enough unfortunately. Trump knows those troops won't do shit to stop people coming in at the desolate southern border. Trump will want Troops at the Northern border on their side keeping them in. Since we can't shoot unless shot upon, that's the only thing that would work. But that's not gonna happen because the cartels rule Mexico.

Do you think it's the cartels or the fact that Mexico isn't exactly incentivized to expend resources to stop these Central American immigrants from passing through? Much easier to let them pass through and become the US's problem.

Possibly abundance, but whatever the Cartels want the cartels get.

So how do you propose we try to incentivize Mexico to stop the Central American train?

Honestly, I don't know how to stop it. I'm fundamentally opposed to almost anything that runs contrary to free trade and don't think tariffs will work as a negotiating tactics. Meanwhile domestic businesses will only get hurt in the process. But if Trump follows through at least I can put that hypothesis to the test and we'll find out if this is an effective mechanism or not.

Outside of that I suppose you could reallocate aid dollars to countries like Honduras and El Salvador and try to stem the problem at the source. But given our illustrious history of attempts to help other countries, the real unfucking will have to come from the countries themselves.

So all that's to say I don't think you really can incentivize Mexico to do much. We reap the punishment of the migration, and I don't think there's too many levers for us to pull unless we really want to go nuclear on them (and any politician who does that will never recover from the anti-business branding they'll get, and Mexico knows it). We're at their mercy whether we like it or not.

RaceBannon

I would actually agree with the aid approach if we could find a way to get it to the people on the ground who need it. Our aid ends up in a despots bank account

Sledog

Land mines!

GreenRiverGatorz

RaceBannon said:

I would actually agree with the aid approach if we could find a way to get it to the people on the ground who need it. Our aid ends up in a despots bank account

Yep, no chance we find a way to actually improve their country without the gangs or politicians siphoning off 95% of it. Those cesspools have to help themselves.

DJDuck

Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.

Migrants’ Remittances to Mexico, Central America Jump to $53 Billion in 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/

GreenRiverGatorz

DJDuck said:

Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.

How do you do that? Take a fee off any wire transfer coming from someone with a Hispanic surname? Bank accounts don't need verification of citizenship. Or are you proposing a tariff that includes money sent from US citizens to Mexico?

DJDuck

Central American Migrant Remittances Breaking Records, Beats Foreign Investment

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2019/05/31/central-american-migrant-remittances-breaking-records-beats-foreign-investment/#291872d72a7f

Sledog

DJDuck said:

Impose tariffs on remittances. Mexico and the Central American countries want their citizens here sending money back to the motherland.

Migrants’ Remittances to Mexico, Central America Jump to $53 Billion in 2018

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/01/02/migrants-remittances-to-mexico-central-america-jump-to-53-billion-in-2018/

Mexicans will pay for the wall!