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Tucker Carlson wants a new party in the US

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    BearsWiinBearsWiin Member Posts: 4,948
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    Laura's already got the salute down
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    Why couldn't you have a party that is economically nationalist and socially conservative? Why is that so hard?

    Don't we already have that now with the new GOP?
    Tucker either flubbed that or he's stuck in 2015.
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    HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 19,293
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    ZoneUWZoneUW Member Posts: 794
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    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

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    ZoneUWZoneUW Member Posts: 794
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    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,837
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

    There are a shit load of problems with this new wave of "democratic" socialism and this spending spree that seemingly every dem candidate wants to send us spinning into. Lots of people like their healthcare and don't want to see it replaced by a shitty, watered down Medicare. Lots of people don't want taxpayer dollars going towards giving deadbeats a free semester of college before they flunk out with a drinking problem. Lots of people don't want to fork over more to Uncle Sam so we can implement nationwide compostable straw initiatives while laying off thousands of people in the O&G industries.

    We don't get to talk about any of that when comparisons to Soviet genocides are the first things that get brought up.
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    creepycougcreepycoug Member Posts: 22,749
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

    There are a shit load of problems with this new wave of "democratic" socialism and this spending spree that seemingly every dem candidate wants to send us spinning into. Lots of people like their healthcare and don't want to see it replaced by a shitty, watered down Medicare. Lots of people don't want taxpayer dollars going towards giving deadbeats a free semester of college before they flunk out with a drinking problem. Lots of people don't want to fork over more to Uncle Sam so we can implement nationwide compostable straw initiatives while laying off thousands of people in the O&G industries.

    We don't get to talk about any of that when comparisons to Soviet genocides are the first things that get brought up.
    So we should stick to Nazi Germany comparisons instead. Like this thread started

    Sorry to interrupt

    A segment of the Democrats are embracing actual socialism. We know the end of that road

    It's not better health care or education. Its death and despair

    Let's fix these issues. I'm in. Find what works not what doesn't work

    Stalin killed more Jews too

    Why would either option be the answer?

    Our debate should be on keeping the capitalist economic engine running and how do we use the fruits for a better society



    This, I agree with. All of it.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,837
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

    There are a shit load of problems with this new wave of "democratic" socialism and this spending spree that seemingly every dem candidate wants to send us spinning into. Lots of people like their healthcare and don't want to see it replaced by a shitty, watered down Medicare. Lots of people don't want taxpayer dollars going towards giving deadbeats a free semester of college before they flunk out with a drinking problem. Lots of people don't want to fork over more to Uncle Sam so we can implement nationwide compostable straw initiatives while laying off thousands of people in the O&G industries.

    We don't get to talk about any of that when comparisons to Soviet genocides are the first things that get brought up.
    So we should stick to Nazi Germany comparisons instead. Like this thread started

    Sorry to interrupt

    A segment of the Democrats are embracing actual socialism. We know the end of that road

    It's not better health care or education. Its death and despair

    Let's fix these issues. I'm in. Find what works not what doesn't work

    Stalin killed more Jews too

    Why would either option be the answer?

    Our debate should be on keeping the capitalist economic engine running and how do we use the fruits for a better society



    This, I agree with. All of it.
    I'm actually a rational person. If @GreenRiverGatorz wants a discussion I'm in. I only tell people to fuck off if they like that kind of thing
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    GreenRiverGatorzGreenRiverGatorz Member Posts: 10,147
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

    There are a shit load of problems with this new wave of "democratic" socialism and this spending spree that seemingly every dem candidate wants to send us spinning into. Lots of people like their healthcare and don't want to see it replaced by a shitty, watered down Medicare. Lots of people don't want taxpayer dollars going towards giving deadbeats a free semester of college before they flunk out with a drinking problem. Lots of people don't want to fork over more to Uncle Sam so we can implement nationwide compostable straw initiatives while laying off thousands of people in the O&G industries.

    We don't get to talk about any of that when comparisons to Soviet genocides are the first things that get brought up.
    So we should stick to Nazi Germany comparisons instead. Like this thread started

    Sorry to interrupt

    A segment of the Democrats are embracing actual socialism. We know the end of that road

    It's not better health care or education. Its death and despair

    Let's fix these issues. I'm in. Find what works not what doesn't work

    Stalin killed more Jews too

    Why would either option be the answer?

    Our debate should be on keeping the capitalist economic engine running and how do we use the fruits for a better society



    Call me old fashioned, but I think the "Hitler's Germany had to start somewhere" talking points are equally stupid.

    I'm with you on the last point. The system is what the system is. If we're talking about healthcare, how do we improve it? Most on the left want to tell us universal healthcare is the answer. Sounds nice, but we can't get there for a myriad of reasons. Pick any one of the insurance lobby, the insane cost of implementation, people losing actual effective plans, decreased access to doctors, etc. So how do we actually fix what we have? All I ever hear is tear down Obamacare from the right, and socialized medicine from the left. Compromise is miles away.
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,837
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    ZoneUW said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    It's easier to kill more people if you have more people to kill and you don't discriminate on ethnic lines
    That could be a problem for American socialists then

    The white male population is declining. Might need to spread out the death lists

    Once again I vote none of the above

    There are a shit load of problems with this new wave of "democratic" socialism and this spending spree that seemingly every dem candidate wants to send us spinning into. Lots of people like their healthcare and don't want to see it replaced by a shitty, watered down Medicare. Lots of people don't want taxpayer dollars going towards giving deadbeats a free semester of college before they flunk out with a drinking problem. Lots of people don't want to fork over more to Uncle Sam so we can implement nationwide compostable straw initiatives while laying off thousands of people in the O&G industries.

    We don't get to talk about any of that when comparisons to Soviet genocides are the first things that get brought up.
    So we should stick to Nazi Germany comparisons instead. Like this thread started

    Sorry to interrupt

    A segment of the Democrats are embracing actual socialism. We know the end of that road

    It's not better health care or education. Its death and despair

    Let's fix these issues. I'm in. Find what works not what doesn't work

    Stalin killed more Jews too

    Why would either option be the answer?

    Our debate should be on keeping the capitalist economic engine running and how do we use the fruits for a better society



    Call me old fashioned, but I think the "Hitler's Germany had to start somewhere" talking points are equally stupid.

    I'm with you on the last point. The system is what the system is. If we're talking about healthcare, how do we improve it? Most on the left want to tell us universal healthcare is the answer. Sounds nice, but we can't get there for a myriad of reasons. Pick any one of the insurance lobby, the insane cost of implementation, people losing actual effective plans, decreased access to doctors, etc. So how do we actually fix what we have? All I ever hear is tear down Obamacare from the right, and socialized medicine from the left. Compromise is miles away.
    And I agree with this unfortunately
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    *100 million in total

    A link for Hondo... But I’m sure he will attack the source, not read it (80 hour work week) and defend the ideology.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810
    How many people did democracy kill in the 2000s?
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    RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 101,837
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    Who is democracy? Does he post here?
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    2001400ex2001400ex Member Posts: 29,457
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    2001400ex said:

    ZoneUW said:

    Plain old socialists killed more people than national socialists but still

    Only one party really wants socialism and it isn't the GOP

    HTH


    Is hoarding grain and assassinating political enemies as bad as gassing women and children?

    Open question

    You can ask 20 million dead Soviets or Chinese

    I'd vote neither myself

    But if you want to support the party that killed 20 million you can. Its a free country


    For now
    *100 million in total

    A link for Hondo... But I’m sure he will attack the source, not read it (80 hour work week) and defend the ideology.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/100-years-of-communismand-100-million-dead-1510011810
    How many people did democracy kill in the 2000s?
    But but but.... says the purveyor of logical fallacies. Hondo mounts his defense of socialism and communism.
    Damoan goes in his ignorant rant again.
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