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Socialism's abject failure
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Needs to get her roots done.Swaye said:
Welp, I'd start here:UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's almost like in the absence of state central planning, market organization will occur because of market demands...allpurpleallgold said:
You’re the one that wants to eliminate minimum wage, you figure out. No federal minimum wage works in those countries because of unions, get the US to match their union participation rate and it’s all yours.UW_Doog_Bot said:
How do you propose to "give" unions that power.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I just said I'll happily do things like,allpurpleallgold said:
create an educational voucher system,
eliminate minimum wage,
sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,
Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.
Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
I digress, sure doesn't sound like socialismo. What exactly is it that you want to copy from Scandinavian countries?
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Ill go digging for some socialism in her yoga pantsSwaye said:
Welp, I'd start here:UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's almost like in the absence of state central planning, market organization will occur because of market demands...allpurpleallgold said:
You’re the one that wants to eliminate minimum wage, you figure out. No federal minimum wage works in those countries because of unions, get the US to match their union participation rate and it’s all yours.UW_Doog_Bot said:
How do you propose to "give" unions that power.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I just said I'll happily do things like,allpurpleallgold said:
create an educational voucher system,
eliminate minimum wage,
sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,
Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.
Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
I digress, sure doesn't sound like socialismo. What exactly is it that you want to copy from Scandinavian countries? -
Veiled call for genocide?Swaye said:
Welp, I'd start here:UW_Doog_Bot said:
It's almost like in the absence of state central planning, market organization will occur because of market demands...allpurpleallgold said:
You’re the one that wants to eliminate minimum wage, you figure out. No federal minimum wage works in those countries because of unions, get the US to match their union participation rate and it’s all yours.UW_Doog_Bot said:
How do you propose to "give" unions that power.allpurpleallgold said:
I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Except I just said I'll happily do things like,allpurpleallgold said:
create an educational voucher system,
eliminate minimum wage,
sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,
Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.
Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
I digress, sure doesn't sound like socialismo. What exactly is it that you want to copy from Scandinavian countries? -
Fuck ya ya lazy bum!HardlyClothed said:
When you ask these right-wingers whether we can have these “capitalist” Nordic economies here, including a sovereign wealth fund, over 50% union membership, and generous welfare benefits, the answer is always no.HHusky said:
The Sultan of Norway and I laffed.UW_Doog_Bot said:
Not actually socialist countries despite the American Left's insistence that they are.greenblood said:Though I agree that socialism is unsustainable and a terrible economic strategy, Venezuela isn’t a great example. Norway, Finland, Denmark, etc should be monitored more closely.
Sure, generous welfare systems BUT all of them have little resistance to free trade, no minimum wage, and universal school choice/voucher systems. All policies the American Left would consider DOA.
Norway particularly, resembles a Middle East Petro-state more than a "socialist model".
