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Socialism's abject failure

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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,495 Founders Club
  • RaceBannon
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  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,551 Founders Club


    Except I just said I'll happily do things like,

    create an educational voucher system,

    eliminate minimum wage,

    sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,

    Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771


    Except I just said I'll happily do things like,

    create an educational voucher system,

    eliminate minimum wage,

    sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,

    Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
    I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,551 Founders Club


    Except I just said I'll happily do things like,

    create an educational voucher system,

    eliminate minimum wage,

    sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,

    Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
    I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.
    How do you propose to "give" unions that power.

    I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.

    Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
  • allpurpleallgold
    allpurpleallgold Member Posts: 8,771


    Except I just said I'll happily do things like,

    create an educational voucher system,

    eliminate minimum wage,

    sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,

    Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
    I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.
    How do you propose to "give" unions that power.

    I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.

    Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
    You’re the one that wants to eliminate minimum wage, you figure out. No federal minimum wage works in those countries because of unions, get the US to match their union participation rate and it’s all yours.
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,551 Founders Club


    Except I just said I'll happily do things like,

    create an educational voucher system,

    eliminate minimum wage,

    sign more free trade agreements and reduce regulatory burden,

    Why don't you want to do those things? They work in Scandinavian countries.
    I mean most jobs do have a minimum wage, it’s just not federal. If you want to give unions the same amount of power here that they have there, then eliminate that shit.
    How do you propose to "give" unions that power.

    I'm fine if people mobilize themselves into unions. I actually think it can be a very good thing when unions align themselves to balance workers stakes vs. staying competitive and in business.

    Just keep the state out of all of it, including creating closed shop laws, and we are in agreement.
    You’re the one that wants to eliminate minimum wage, you figure out. No federal minimum wage works in those countries because of unions, get the US to match their union participation rate and it’s all yours.
    It's almost like in the absence of state central planning, market organization will occur because of market demands...

    I digress, sure doesn't sound like socialismo. What exactly is it that you want to copy from Scandinavian countries?