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Dem Governor 1st to veto National Popular Vote Bill

DJDuck
DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
edited May 2019 in Tug Tavern
There are actually a few sane Democrats afterall


BREAKING: Democratic governor becomes the FIRST to veto National Popular Vote bill

https://therightscoop.com/breaking-democratic-governor-becomes-the-first-to-veto-national-popular-vote-bill/


Governor Sisolak

@GovSisolak

“Once effective, the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact could diminish the role of smaller states like Nevada in national electoral contests and force Nevada’s electors to side with whoever wins the nationwide popular vote, rather than the candidate Nevadans choose”
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  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter
    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    His reason is of course pure bullshit but if he's looking for the voters of his state to have the largest impact his ultimate decision isn't wrong.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
    Good thing we don't rely on the popular vote to elect Presidents isn't it El Monte.
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
    Good thing we don't rely on the popular vote to elect Presidents isn't it El Monte.
    Is that a substantive comment GayBob?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I'd be curious to know how many voters are out there like myself. I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but I'd vote for him now. Trump's popular vote totals could increase.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    And you still need Ohio and Florida if you are GOP in particular

    I expect Trump's total to go up as well as the states he wins

    How can they not with Putin helping him?
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I said likely - not certain. You could still boil it down to 6-7 states if you want to expand beyond the three I mentioned. How is that not a few states holding the nation hostage via the EC something sled argued shouldn't happen in an election?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I said likely - not certain. You could still boil it down to 6-7 states if you want to expand beyond the three I mentioned. How is that not a few states holding the nation hostage via the EC something sled argued shouldn't happen in an election?
    Those states aren't holding the nation hostage, they are in play and could go either way. Your way would allow New York and California and Illinois and a handful of other large population liberal states to hold the entire country hostage. It would also create a system much more susceptible to fraud.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I said likely - not certain. You could still boil it down to 6-7 states if you want to expand beyond the three I mentioned. How is that not a few states holding the nation hostage via the EC something sled argued shouldn't happen in an election?
    California and NY used to go GOP

    Nothing is set in concrete. That's why we have the University of Electoral

    You guys lost this one. Get the fuck over it already
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I said likely - not certain. You could still boil it down to 6-7 states if you want to expand beyond the three I mentioned. How is that not a few states holding the nation hostage via the EC something sled argued shouldn't happen in an election?
    California and NY used to go GOP

    Nothing is set in concrete. That's why we have the University of Electoral

    You guys lost this one. Get the fuck over it already
    Come on, you know they always want to change the rules when they lose an election.
  • GDS
    GDS Member Posts: 1,470
    SFGbob said:

    GDS said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    You assume the other states are static which they aren't
    I said likely - not certain. You could still boil it down to 6-7 states if you want to expand beyond the three I mentioned. How is that not a few states holding the nation hostage via the EC something sled argued shouldn't happen in an election?
    Those states aren't holding the nation hostage, they are in play and could go either way. Your way would allow New York and California and Illinois and a handful of other large population liberal states to hold the entire country hostage. It would also create a system much more susceptible to fraud.
    A single voter in LA or NYC has the same power as a single voter in Cheyenne, Wyoming or Tulsa, Oklahoma in a popular vote election. Under the EC none of those votes really matter. Every other election I have seen or participated in whether it's school counsel, senate, mayor etc etc means whomever gets the most votes wins. For some reason president is the only elected office in this country that is elected in a different manner.

    I actually don't want us to scrap the EC but would to see us go to a proportional system or voting by CDs like in Nebraska and Maine. Then you might actually see candidates campaigning in places like California, Illinois, New York, Alabama, Louisiana etc etc whereby those states currently never see a presidential candidate.
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    Beverly Hills saw Obama multiple times collecting money
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,183
    The systems has worked for over 200 years and as soon as you lose an election you no longer like the system.

  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2019
    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    Better than LA and New York holding the nation hostage. Winning states should count more than buying votes with our tax dollars. That's all you get in the big slums of the USA. California shouldn't even be allowed for their votes to count as they register illegals to vote as a matter of state law.
  • Kaepsknee
    Kaepsknee Member Posts: 14,913
    Yes!!! Let's let the welfare States of NY, Calif and Illinois choose our President!!!!!!!!
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390
    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
    True. With the Dems courting prisoners, welfare recipients, illegals and High School students votes, How can they lose????

    Afterall these people are the brain trust of our country!!!!
    Salem cuog’s “brain trust?”
    I’m refinancing my home mortgage again this week Cuog. Trump’s trade wars have deflated capital markets and significantly reduced interest rates as investors flee to safety in US treasuries. Still claim mortgage refinance is a bad move because tax law caps combined SLT and home mortgage interest itemized deductions at $10k?
    SalemCuogFS
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    You have a mortgage?

    Sad
  • CirrhosisDawg
    CirrhosisDawg Member Posts: 6,390

    You have a mortgage?

    Sad

    Borrow at 4 pct.
    Earn at 10 pct.
    Do you need additional help with the math?
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 113,726 Founders Club
    No not at all. I'm sure its great


    For you
  • UW_Doog_Bot
    UW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 18,047 Founders Club

    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
    True. With the Dems courting prisoners, welfare recipients, illegals and High School students votes, How can they lose????

    Afterall these people are the brain trust of our country!!!!
    Salem cuog’s “brain trust?”
    I’m refinancing my home mortgage again this week Cuog. Trump’s trade wars have deflated capital markets and significantly reduced interest rates as investors flee to safety in US treasuries. Still claim mortgage refinance is a bad move because tax law caps combined SLT and home mortgage interest itemized deductions at $10k?
    SalemCuogFS
    I'm refi-ing next week. No PMI from the get go. Only way my value is going to eat it is if we are all dead in 12 years.
  • Bendintheriver
    Bendintheriver Member Posts: 7,002

    Beverly Hills saw Obama multiple times collecting money

    SFGbob said:

    The systems has worked for over 200 years and as soon as you lose an election you no longer like the system.

    I am so tired of their incessant infantile whining when they lose. I have met more mature 3 year olds than what the country is seeing with democrats.
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited May 2019
    Constitution bad if we can’t have liberal judges manipulate it’s meaning.
  • Sledog
    Sledog Member Posts: 37,683 Standard Supporter
    edited May 2019

    salemcoog said:

    GDS said:

    Sledog said:

    The founders obviously saw one or two large cities determining the vote. Can't have that.

    The 2020 presidential election will likely boil down to about 200,000 voters in three states. Whomever wins at least two out of Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan likely wins the election. How is the electoral college not an example of a few states holding the rest of the country hostage?
    True. And trump will lose the popular vote again by 3 million votes minimum.
    True. With the Dems courting prisoners, welfare recipients, illegals and High School students votes, How can they lose????

    Afterall these people are the brain trust of our country!!!!
    Salem cuog’s “brain trust?”
    I’m refinancing my home mortgage again this week Cuog. Trump’s trade wars have deflated capital markets and significantly reduced interest rates as investors flee to safety in US treasuries. Still claim mortgage refinance is a bad move because tax law caps combined SLT and home mortgage interest itemized deductions at $10k?
    SalemCuogFS
    Home not paid for? Pour you must be. After all these year mom should have paid off your basement. Did she just refi for your Wyo Tech school?
  • DJDuck
    DJDuck Member Posts: 5,970
    edited May 2019
    Financial genius