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Great Documentary on the Palestinians welcoming and providing a safe haven for the Jews

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  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764
    The Georgia bill does not explicitly exempt women from liability for ending their own pregnancies. The position relies on case law from an appellate court in Georgia. That case law only arose because a woman was prosecuted. And the bill's author could have made explicit what he now says his bill provides. Why didn't he?
  • HHuskyHHusky Member Posts: 20,764

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    I'm not advocating any takesies backsies. What's done is done.

    But it's not a terrible thing to acknowledge mistakes. It gives one perspective.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes it is so "cruel" of the Israelis to try and block the rockets the Palis shoot at them. Imagine our response if Mexico started lobbing rockets into down town San Diego.

    Yeah it’s exactly like that...do you still believe Israel invaded southern Lebanon in ‘82 because some retired ambassador got shot in London? Fucking dupe.
    So the Palis don't shoot rockets into Israel from Gaza?
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,781 Swaye's Wigwam

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes it is so "cruel" of the Israelis to try and block the rockets the Palis shoot at them. Imagine our response if Mexico started lobbing rockets into down town San Diego.

    Yeah it’s exactly like that...do you still believe Israel invaded southern Lebanon in ‘82 because some retired ambassador got shot in London? Fucking dupe.
    So the Palis don't shoot rockets into Israel from Gaza?
    Why did Israel invade southern Lebanon?
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
  • SFGbobSFGbob Member Posts: 32,211

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes it is so "cruel" of the Israelis to try and block the rockets the Palis shoot at them. Imagine our response if Mexico started lobbing rockets into down town San Diego.

    Yeah it’s exactly like that...do you still believe Israel invaded southern Lebanon in ‘82 because some retired ambassador got shot in London? Fucking dupe.
    So the Palis don't shoot rockets into Israel from Gaza?
    Why did Israel invade southern Lebanon?
    Why are you excusing the Palis firing rockets into Israel from Gaza? You were upset about the blockade of Gaza and as soon as you get a response you change the topic to Lebanon.
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,781 Swaye's Wigwam

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    Lol at your crocodile tears for Palestinians fuck face. We all know you don't actually give a shit about anyone's human rights unless it serves your team's interests. My track record is at least consistent on applying the universality of human rights and liberty.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
    JFC

    At least be honest. The Palis used to be proud of wanting the Jews dead

    Sad to see how far you've fallen
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes it is so "cruel" of the Israelis to try and block the rockets the Palis shoot at them. Imagine our response if Mexico started lobbing rockets into down town San Diego.

    Yeah it’s exactly like that...do you still believe Israel invaded southern Lebanon in ‘82 because some retired ambassador got shot in London? Fucking dupe.
    So the Palis don't shoot rockets into Israel from Gaza?
    Why did Israel invade southern Lebanon?
    Why are you excusing the Palis firing rockets into Israel from Gaza? You were upset about the blockade of Gaza and as soon as you get a response you change the topic to Lebanon.
    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    SFGbob said:

    Yes, yes it is so "cruel" of the Israelis to try and block the rockets the Palis shoot at them. Imagine our response if Mexico started lobbing rockets into down town San Diego.

    Yeah it’s exactly like that...do you still believe Israel invaded southern Lebanon in ‘82 because some retired ambassador got shot in London? Fucking dupe.
    So the Palis don't shoot rockets into Israel from Gaza?
    Why did Israel invade southern Lebanon?
    Why are you excusing the Palis firing rockets into Israel from Gaza? You were upset about the blockade of Gaza and as soon as you get a response you change the topic to Lebanon.
    Wow what an observation that Hamas shoots rockets into Israel! Who knew? You really called me out.

    Here’s another observation: Israel creates a humanitarian crisis in Gaza which is met with rockets which is then met with disproportionate military force.
  • HardlyClothedHardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
    JFC

    At least be honest. The Palis used to be proud of wanting the Jews dead

    Sad to see how far you've fallen
    Fuck off anti-semite.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
    JFC

    At least be honest. The Palis used to be proud of wanting the Jews dead

    Sad to see how far you've fallen
    Fuck off anti-semite.
    The Jew hater speaks
  • UW_Doog_BotUW_Doog_Bot Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 15,781 Swaye's Wigwam

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
    JFC

    At least be honest. The Palis used to be proud of wanting the Jews dead

    Sad to see how far you've fallen
    Fuck off anti-semite.
    Don't worry, we all know what you are, no one takes a word you say seriously. You do a great job of being a shining example of what the Left has to offer though.
  • RaceBannonRaceBannon Member, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 105,807 Founders Club
    They made us fire those rockets at them

    Humanitarian crises? Billions of dollars have been sent there. It's either in Arafat's bank account or used for terrorism

    The Palis are a failed non state like all the failed Muslim states

    Death follows wherever they take over
  • TurdBomberTurdBomber Member Posts: 19,964 Standard Supporter

    The thing about Israel vs. Palestine is that the Palestinian claim to the land is based on the fact that they forced out the previous inhabitants with violence and settled there. Kind of hard to invalidate the Israeli claim to the land based on a moral argument from that space. "Well we were the last ones to conquer the land before you conquered the land!"

    Israel exists, no takesies backsies are going to happen. It would be better if the Muslim world acknowledged the fact that Israel exists, will continue to, and moved forward. It won't though.

    You should try bringing it up with your Muslim friends and see how they react.

    The Muslim world does acknowledge that Israel exists. Egypt and Jordan have peace treaties and formal diplomatic relations with Israel. The PA recognizes Israel’s right to exist as part of Oslo. The Gulf states and Israel also enjoy warm relations. The problem is the ongoing occupation of the West Bank and cruel blockade of Gaza. And an emboldened Israeli right-wing that is solidifying apartheid, has no interest in peace, and wants to annex the West Bank.

    Once again, you know nothing about the actual issue and invent a different one to make your argument.
    You are so fucking hilariously naive if you actually believe any of that. Like I said, go bring up the existence of Israel to all your Muslim frens.

    I have no problem condemning Israel's violation of human rights. I also recognize their right to exist and the fact that they are dealing with a part of the world that disagrees with that fact.

    I notice you were completely silent on the topic of the Uighur genocide that's currently occurring in China where their are literally millions of people in concentration camps, a police state that gives Orwell nightmares, and forced organ harvesting of dissidents. Oh! but Palestine!
    Christ this is weak. Yes there are Muslims that think Israel shouldn’t exist. There are Jews who deny that Palestine exists or that Palestinians are even a people. The point is that the Arab world isn’t frothing at the mouth to wipe Israel off the map. In polls most Sunni Arab Muslims identify Iran as a greater threat than Israel. You completely misrepresented the current state of Israeli-Arab relations in your originial post and got called out for it.

    And fuck off with your crocodile tears for Uighur Muslims in China. Yes it’s a tragedy and the Chinese government is culpable. But that’s not the topic of this thread you worm.
    You should probably fuck off with pretending that you don't want Israel eliminated
    Advocating for restarting the peace process or a one-state solution with equal rights is “wanting Israel eliminated”. That’s a good little Likudnik.
    Too bad the folks you defend here don't want either

    Read the charter - eliminate Israel

    Just because they lie about it now doesn't hide the actions

    This is your one issue here. Pali propagandist.
    Another Likudnik lie. The Palestinians entered Oslo in good faith and the Israelis pulled the rug out from under them.

    It’s my issue because there’s something especially revolting about non-jewish Americans who have never been to Israel or understand even the basic history of the conflict calling Palestinians savages and excusing ethnic cleansing. And especially when you and Bob engage in anti-semitism by equating Israel with the jewish people. Fuck off.
    JFC

    At least be honest. The Palis used to be proud of wanting the Jews dead

    Sad to see how far you've fallen
    Fuck off anti-semite.
    Don't worry, we all know what you are, no one takes a word you say seriously. You do a great job of being a shining example of what the Left has to offer though.
    How many pairs of skinny jeans does HC own, I wonder?
  • Blu82Blu82 Member Posts: 1,570
    H in skinny jeans


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