Live look at OKG stumbling past 2018-19 and facing 2020-21
#mydom
I remember a time period where every tOSU wr looked the same. Skinny, fast, tall and they were imposing.
Dom, looks like KT, who looks like miller, who looks like kevoo. I love that we have a specific length and skill set we look for almost like a conveyor belt into the NFL.
I am glad they are hitting the "draft" branding hard. Said this in the other thread but it amazes me with how detailed and on top of things everything about this program is, that our recruiting has taken 5 years to finally try to get messaging right and on point. Feels like Pete just doesn't like recruiting, so that is the one ad hoc thing about this program.
But new branding centered on B4L and Come to UW to Get Drafted seems like a strategy that will work.
#scoducks#wareagle
I have always hated OKG. OKG is a Boise thing. It's 'we don't get our pick of the litter, so we have to do EXTREME vetting'.
Because at Boise, you had to really make sure you were homing in on guys who would be productive past their rating, etc.
At UW - we are recruiting basically the same kids everyone else is. How hard is it really to scout Bijan Robinson or Sav'ell? Are they OKGs?!?!
I mean - they have superlative talent. That's why we got our shit pushed in by tOSU, Penn State and Bama. We need guys like that. It doesn't take some insane OKG-meter to figure out who we need.
B4L is Washington branding (I believe Pete came up with it when he came to UW) and it suits their current mission much better. Instead of having the undercurrent of 'THIS IS THE HARDEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO TO OREGON' in our recruiting message, B4L is more 'we will take kids that can go anywhere, and do something with them nowhere else will do'.
OKG is about Pete and Co. prizing slow strategy values and (even though they don't realize it) selecting for obedient, beta kids (yes sir, no sir!!).
B4L is about 'hey, we can get kids like Kevin King (not that he was some extreme knucklehead or anything, but almost certainly a kid we would not recruit now) and make them into big time players and give them a real foundation in life'.
I have ALWAYS felt the tragedy of the OKG recruiting approach was that the kids who desperately NEED B4L won't get it because you are selling it in such a way that it turns off everyone who could REALLY benefit from it. Then we end up preaching to the converted and getting a bunch of beta kids. Nothing wrong with them, but we need a MIX.
As I said on Ep #49 - I NEED B4L!!! I DO!!!! My rich friends who grew up in Magnolia and went to O'Dea don't need it. It's fine for them... but I have ALWAYS felt that Pete's fire for college football will burn brighter and longer if he realizes he has an opportunity to change the lives of a bunch of fast strategy kids who will be used up and spit out by Oregon, USC and whomever else.
I have always felt if Pete could really get in touch with that reality he would really prize his opportunity. And if he realized what a shit-show OKG is perception wise, and what a disaster their 'anti-hype/anti-fun' stance is, and how much it impedes his ability to CHANGE LIVES of kids who NEED it... he would drop it immediately.
White people are really sensitive about this stuff, but it's not that complicated...
For reasons that you will have to pay me to really get into (this is a LONG story)... fast strategy values are baked into black culture in America even if the people themselves are not fast strategy. This is the same in opposition about white people culture in America. In the south with all these meth head lunatics, I see white people talking about 'hard work' and all its virtues (even though Squirrel is not a particularly hard worker).
I love all you white people. Shout out to white people. There is nothing wrong with white people and SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE WHITE!! I have always said, I don't want to eliminate white people from our program. I love Cade Otton and I love Josh Calvert.
But it's more about a message that is not INTENDED to be exclusionary, but ends up being that way.
That's why I really hope they take this rebrand seriously. I don't want to be Oregon. But just look at the team that won the Natty last year. They have fun, they are a bunch of JIVE ASSES... ...but if Pete honestly looks at the trajectory of Christian Wilkins' life and is able (PLEASE GOD) to realize that this OKG-branding, anti-fun/anti-hype approach will prevent UW from having stories like CW's, I know he would want to change it.
I seriously hope they do.
This is a great post and basically sums up how I feel about it. We aren't racist here. But the measures we seem to most value in recruits prize cultural elements of shitty white people more than other races (though Malloe has Poly family shit on lock). B4L is a much more inclusive (I hate that word but whatever) strategy that says we can get the most of anyone - white, black, poly, 50/50, whatever.
Nobody actually thinks our staff is racist, but OKG coupled with some of our lame ass white coaches can be easily interpreted that way, unintentionally. B4L has more of a ride or die vibe with some OKG elements sprinkled in. This will work a shitload better than what we've been doing imho.
Something just occurred to me. At the time Google shut down our adsense, I was told it was for all the profanity and took that explanation at face value. I spoke with the former owner of Shaggy Bevo about it and he was perplexed because he was able to have ad revenue despite all the profanity on his site. In retrospect, I think HH might have been flagged because we were too conservative for Google's agenda. I'm not saying it's certain but I think that's definitely possible.
Imagine thinking fucking Google pushes a leftist agenda. They put a liberal veneer on shit like any company does if they think it's good for business. If they had opportunity to enslave all of mankind except their shareholders they would.
Google doesn't pay ad money to anything their advertisers don't want to advertise. For HH, I'm guessing it's because of all the casual racism and jokes about suicide. You should see the stupid reasons they demonetize videos on Youtube for, and it's always because advertisers are scared of losing business, not because Google's boardroom is full of liberals (hint: It very much isn't).
That’s pretty much what leftists want.
I'm gonna regret asking this, but when you say leftist, what exactly are you thinking of? Because I'm struggling to think of a single leftist ideology that's pro-slavery, and a lot of leftists (not liberals, mind you) are against the concept of shareholders as well. But maybe you equate the inability to make capital gains with slavery, in which case your definition of slavery is objectively wrong.
Man, fuck me for even trying to have this discussion on HH. I'm gonna go kill myself before I have to read the replies.
Leftists LOVE slavery. Crack open a book for me one time.
Literally any book? I don't think every book in existence will validate your view point. Also, you didn't define what you mean when you say leftist.
Democrats, communists, socialists. All cut from the same cloth. If they can’t have actual slavery, they’ll just tax as much as possible and get as close as they can.
US Democrats have almost nothing in common with communists or socialists. A few fringe Democrats might believe in socialism or at least a mixed economy, but the vast masjority are capitalists. None of those three groups advocate slvery though, nor does taxation have anything to do with slavery. You can't tax someone who isn't being paid. Funny how you seem to think I'm the one who isn't well read. You're contradicting yourself repeatedly.
If you can tax someone at 100% that is slavery, but they will settle for getting as close as possible. And you don’t think dems share ideals with communists. That’s cute!
Some socialists argue for the abolishment of capital, but none argue for anywhere close to a 100% tax as long as capital exists. The point of socialism is also to give the value produced to the people who produce it, not to take it away from them. Very few US democrats argue for that, and the few that do are outside of the main establishment.
Something just occurred to me. At the time Google shut down our adsense, I was told it was for all the profanity and took that explanation at face value. I spoke with the former owner of Shaggy Bevo about it and he was perplexed because he was able to have ad revenue despite all the profanity on his site. In retrospect, I think HH might have been flagged because we were too conservative for Google's agenda. I'm not saying it's certain but I think that's definitely possible.
Imagine thinking fucking Google pushes a leftist agenda. They put a liberal veneer on shit like any company does if they think it's good for business. If they had opportunity to enslave all of mankind except their shareholders they would.
Google doesn't pay ad money to anything their advertisers don't want to advertise. For HH, I'm guessing it's because of all the casual racism and jokes about suicide. You should see the stupid reasons they demonetize videos on Youtube for, and it's always because advertisers are scared of losing business, not because Google's boardroom is full of liberals (hint: It very much isn't).
That’s pretty much what leftists want.
I'm gonna regret asking this, but when you say leftist, what exactly are you thinking of? Because I'm struggling to think of a single leftist ideology that's pro-slavery, and a lot of leftists (not liberals, mind you) are against the concept of shareholders as well. But maybe you equate the inability to make capital gains with slavery, in which case your definition of slavery is objectively wrong.
Man, fuck me for even trying to have this discussion on HH. I'm gonna go kill myself before I have to read the replies.
Leftists LOVE slavery. Crack open a book for me one time.
Literally any book? I don't think every book in existence will validate your view point. Also, you didn't define what you mean when you say leftist.
Democrats, communists, socialists. All cut from the same cloth. If they can’t have actual slavery, they’ll just tax as much as possible and get as close as they can.
US Democrats have almost nothing in common with communists or socialists. A few fringe Democrats might believe in socialism or at least a mixed economy, but the vast masjority are capitalists. None of those three groups advocate slvery though, nor does taxation have anything to do with slavery. You can't tax someone who isn't being paid. Funny how you seem to think I'm the one who isn't well read. You're contradicting yourself repeatedly.
If you can tax someone at 100% that is slavery, but they will settle for getting as close as possible. And you don’t think dems share ideals with communists. That’s cute!
Some socialists argue for the abolishment of capital, but none argue for anywhere close to a 100% tax as long as capital exists. The point of socialism is also to give the value produced to the people who produce it, not to take it away from them. Very few US democrats argue for that, and the few that do are outside of the main establishment.
I am glad they are hitting the "draft" branding hard. Said this in the other thread but it amazes me with how detailed and on top of things everything about this program is, that our recruiting has taken 5 years to finally try to get messaging right and on point. Feels like Pete just doesn't like recruiting, so that is the one ad hoc thing about this program.
But new branding centered on B4L and Come to UW to Get Drafted seems like a strategy that will work.
#scoducks#wareagle
I have always hated OKG. OKG is a Boise thing. It's 'we don't get our pick of the litter, so we have to do EXTREME vetting'.
Because at Boise, you had to really make sure you were homing in on guys who would be productive past their rating, etc.
At UW - we are recruiting basically the same kids everyone else is. How hard is it really to scout Bijan Robinson or Sav'ell? Are they OKGs?!?!
I mean - they have superlative talent. That's why we got our shit pushed in by tOSU, Penn State and Bama. We need guys like that. It doesn't take some insane OKG-meter to figure out who we need.
B4L is Washington branding (I believe Pete came up with it when he came to UW) and it suits their current mission much better. Instead of having the undercurrent of 'THIS IS THE HARDEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO TO OREGON' in our recruiting message, B4L is more 'we will take kids that can go anywhere, and do something with them nowhere else will do'.
OKG is about Pete and Co. prizing slow strategy values and (even though they don't realize it) selecting for obedient, beta kids (yes sir, no sir!!).
B4L is about 'hey, we can get kids like Kevin King (not that he was some extreme knucklehead or anything, but almost certainly a kid we would not recruit now) and make them into big time players and give them a real foundation in life'.
I have ALWAYS felt the tragedy of the OKG recruiting approach was that the kids who desperately NEED B4L won't get it because you are selling it in such a way that it turns off everyone who could REALLY benefit from it. Then we end up preaching to the converted and getting a bunch of beta kids. Nothing wrong with them, but we need a MIX.
As I said on Ep #49 - I NEED B4L!!! I DO!!!! My rich friends who grew up in Magnolia and went to O'Dea don't need it. It's fine for them... but I have ALWAYS felt that Pete's fire for college football will burn brighter and longer if he realizes he has an opportunity to change the lives of a bunch of fast strategy kids who will be used up and spit out by Oregon, USC and whomever else.
I have always felt if Pete could really get in touch with that reality he would really prize his opportunity. And if he realized what a shit-show OKG is perception wise, and what a disaster their 'anti-hype/anti-fun' stance is, and how much it impedes his ability to CHANGE LIVES of kids who NEED it... he would drop it immediately.
White people are really sensitive about this stuff, but it's not that complicated...
For reasons that you will have to pay me to really get into (this is a LONG story)... fast strategy values are baked into black culture in America even if the people themselves are not fast strategy. This is the same in opposition about white people culture in America. In the south with all these meth head lunatics, I see white people talking about 'hard work' and all its virtues (even though Squirrel is not a particularly hard worker).
I love all you white people. Shout out to white people. There is nothing wrong with white people and SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE WHITE!! I have always said, I don't want to eliminate white people from our program. I love Cade Otton and I love Josh Calvert.
But it's more about a message that is not INTENDED to be exclusionary, but ends up being that way.
That's why I really hope they take this rebrand seriously. I don't want to be Oregon. But just look at the team that won the Natty last year. They have fun, they are a bunch of JIVE ASSES... ...but if Pete honestly looks at the trajectory of Christian Wilkins' life and is able (PLEASE GOD) to realize that this OKG-branding, anti-fun/anti-hype approach will prevent UW from having stories like CW's, I know he would want to change it.
I seriously hope they do.
This is a great post and basically sums up how I feel about it. We aren't racist here. But the measures we seem to most value in recruits prize cultural elements of shitty white people more than other races (though Malloe has Poly family shit on lock). B4L is a much more inclusive (I hate that word but whatever) strategy that says we can get the most of anyone - white, black, poly, 50/50, whatever.
Nobody actually thinks our staff is racist, but OKG coupled with some of our lame ass white coaches can be easily interpreted that way, unintentionally. B4L has more of a ride or die vibe with some OKG elements sprinkled in. This will work a shitload better than what we've been doing imho.
Anyone have any meth? I'm out.
, said every racist ever. This is quite possibly the most entertaining forum on the internet--this thread in particular is a gold mine of funny gifs about a painful and uncomfortable subject. That being said, "We aren't racists here" is just not factual. If there's one thing that led to me taking a long walk for perspective once and is on the brink of doing so again, it's that I often get the impression that half of you all are in this picture:
There are plenty of racists on this board whether they know it or not. For a community that is desperate to see young black men playing on their football team, recruiting thread titles featuring "dark skinned," black people being referred to as "the blicks," and basement dwelling white boys going full Rachel Dolezal when it suits their narrative to transparently claim to be black are exactly the kinds of things that, were I a young black man with an NFL future, would lead me to say, "Fuck these guys; I'm playing down south where at least the racism is to my face."
i had to fucking sign in just to wtf your poast. jfc
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
either way it will be interesting
Thanks for fucking things up for me and stealing my thunder.
Was going to respond with "just what you're hearing; don't twist" and "either way, interesting".
Something just occurred to me. At the time Google shut down our adsense, I was told it was for all the profanity and took that explanation at face value. I spoke with the former owner of Shaggy Bevo about it and he was perplexed because he was able to have ad revenue despite all the profanity on his site. In retrospect, I think HH might have been flagged because we were too conservative for Google's agenda. I'm not saying it's certain but I think that's definitely possible.
Imagine thinking fucking Google pushes a leftist agenda. They put a liberal veneer on shit like any company does if they think it's good for business. If they had opportunity to enslave all of mankind except their shareholders they would.
Google doesn't pay ad money to anything their advertisers don't want to advertise. For HH, I'm guessing it's because of all the casual racism and jokes about suicide. You should see the stupid reasons they demonetize videos on Youtube for, and it's always because advertisers are scared of losing business, not because Google's boardroom is full of liberals (hint: It very much isn't).
Google owns YouTube. And YouTube has been banning conservatives and fucking with others like Crowder. That's a fact.
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
This one time I flipped a quarter and it came up heads 8 times in a row.
I am glad they are hitting the "draft" branding hard. Said this in the other thread but it amazes me with how detailed and on top of things everything about this program is, that our recruiting has taken 5 years to finally try to get messaging right and on point. Feels like Pete just doesn't like recruiting, so that is the one ad hoc thing about this program.
But new branding centered on B4L and Come to UW to Get Drafted seems like a strategy that will work.
#scoducks#wareagle
I have always hated OKG. OKG is a Boise thing. It's 'we don't get our pick of the litter, so we have to do EXTREME vetting'.
Because at Boise, you had to really make sure you were homing in on guys who would be productive past their rating, etc.
At UW - we are recruiting basically the same kids everyone else is. How hard is it really to scout Bijan Robinson or Sav'ell? Are they OKGs?!?!
I mean - they have superlative talent. That's why we got our shit pushed in by tOSU, Penn State and Bama. We need guys like that. It doesn't take some insane OKG-meter to figure out who we need.
B4L is Washington branding (I believe Pete came up with it when he came to UW) and it suits their current mission much better. Instead of having the undercurrent of 'THIS IS THE HARDEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO TO OREGON' in our recruiting message, B4L is more 'we will take kids that can go anywhere, and do something with them nowhere else will do'.
OKG is about Pete and Co. prizing slow strategy values and (even though they don't realize it) selecting for obedient, beta kids (yes sir, no sir!!).
B4L is about 'hey, we can get kids like Kevin King (not that he was some extreme knucklehead or anything, but almost certainly a kid we would not recruit now) and make them into big time players and give them a real foundation in life'.
I have ALWAYS felt the tragedy of the OKG recruiting approach was that the kids who desperately NEED B4L won't get it because you are selling it in such a way that it turns off everyone who could REALLY benefit from it. Then we end up preaching to the converted and getting a bunch of beta kids. Nothing wrong with them, but we need a MIX.
As I said on Ep #49 - I NEED B4L!!! I DO!!!! My rich friends who grew up in Magnolia and went to O'Dea don't need it. It's fine for them... but I have ALWAYS felt that Pete's fire for college football will burn brighter and longer if he realizes he has an opportunity to change the lives of a bunch of fast strategy kids who will be used up and spit out by Oregon, USC and whomever else.
I have always felt if Pete could really get in touch with that reality he would really prize his opportunity. And if he realized what a shit-show OKG is perception wise, and what a disaster their 'anti-hype/anti-fun' stance is, and how much it impedes his ability to CHANGE LIVES of kids who NEED it... he would drop it immediately.
White people are really sensitive about this stuff, but it's not that complicated...
For reasons that you will have to pay me to really get into (this is a LONG story)... fast strategy values are baked into black culture in America even if the people themselves are not fast strategy. This is the same in opposition about white people culture in America. In the south with all these meth head lunatics, I see white people talking about 'hard work' and all its virtues (even though Squirrel is not a particularly hard worker).
I love all you white people. Shout out to white people. There is nothing wrong with white people and SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE WHITE!! I have always said, I don't want to eliminate white people from our program. I love Cade Otton and I love Josh Calvert.
But it's more about a message that is not INTENDED to be exclusionary, but ends up being that way.
That's why I really hope they take this rebrand seriously. I don't want to be Oregon. But just look at the team that won the Natty last year. They have fun, they are a bunch of JIVE ASSES... ...but if Pete honestly looks at the trajectory of Christian Wilkins' life and is able (PLEASE GOD) to realize that this OKG-branding, anti-fun/anti-hype approach will prevent UW from having stories like CW's, I know he would want to change it.
I seriously hope they do.
Why would Pete change anything Denny? Sark tried your model. 7-4 , 777, debacle after debacle on Saturdays. Ok, let's take your advice dipshit. The supreme OKG just led the country in tackles. Maybe when Smalls finishes his AA at a JC Pete will recruit him again
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
Everlast's latest JRE was a solid pod. I wonder if being stopped had to do with the stainless steel valve he had put in his heart.
Right now I'm listening to the rapper from Cypress Hill talking to Joe Rogan. He said that at one point he suddenly got stopped four times in a row at airports and taken to a secondary room and searched. During the fourth time, he asked one of the agents why he was constantly being stopped after not being stopped for years. The agent indicated that he was on a list because of posts he had made on social media. "Big Brother is watching."
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
My B.I.L. was assigned one day to work with the Secret Service and CIA when the President (not Trump ) came to town. It was his job to make sure they that if they arrested someone all i's were dotted and t's were crossed.
Let's just say...they have lists for everything and it seems damn near everybody.
Our coaching staff has retooled their whole recruiting strategy and called for a hard re-brand on OKG (you can see the comically obvious/reactionary rebrand play out on twitter). They are now going to try to emphasize B4L over OKG, but desperately want to show the world that OKG isn't racist and that people have fun at UW.
Pete is going hard after Smalls personally and it's not over.
Pete is apparently pissed that Taggart and Cristobal would stoop to this! ("How dare my enemies exploit my weaknesses in a billion dollar industry!?!?")
Unfortunately for 40% of white people here, we are going to continue to recruit black players even if they are JIVE ASSES and may now even try to emphasize it a bit.
Just what I'm hearing don't twist.
First a question: It’s not over because Pete says it’s not over? Or, it’s not over because Smalls says it’s not over?
Our coaching staff has retooled their whole recruiting strategy and called for a hard re-brand on OKG (you can see the comically obvious/reactionary rebrand play out on twitter). They are now going to try to emphasize B4L over OKG, but desperately want to show the world that OKG isn't racist and that people have fun at UW.
Pete is going hard after Smalls personally and it's not over.
Pete is apparently pissed that Taggart and Cristobal would stoop to this! ("How dare my enemies exploit my weaknesses in a billion dollar industry!?!?")
Unfortunately for 40% of white people here, we are going to continue to recruit black players even if they are JIVE ASSES and may now even try to emphasize it a bit.
Just what I'm hearing don't twist.
First a question: It’s not over because Pete says it’s not over? Or, it’s not over because Smalls says it’s not over?
Our coaching staff has retooled their whole recruiting strategy and called for a hard re-brand on OKG (you can see the comically obvious/reactionary rebrand play out on twitter). They are now going to try to emphasize B4L over OKG, but desperately want to show the world that OKG isn't racist and that people have fun at UW.
Pete is going hard after Smalls personally and it's not over.
Pete is apparently pissed that Taggart and Cristobal would stoop to this! ("How dare my enemies exploit my weaknesses in a billion dollar industry!?!?")
Unfortunately for 40% of white people here, we are going to continue to recruit black players even if they are JIVE ASSES and may now even try to emphasize it a bit.
Just what I'm hearing don't twist.
First a question: It’s not over because Pete says it’s not over? Or, it’s not over because Smalls says it’s not over?
Second, great post.
Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? </blockquote
I am glad they are hitting the "draft" branding hard. Said this in the other thread but it amazes me with how detailed and on top of things everything about this program is, that our recruiting has taken 5 years to finally try to get messaging right and on point. Feels like Pete just doesn't like recruiting, so that is the one ad hoc thing about this program.
But new branding centered on B4L and Come to UW to Get Drafted seems like a strategy that will work.
#scoducks#wareagle
I have always hated OKG. OKG is a Boise thing. It's 'we don't get our pick of the litter, so we have to do EXTREME vetting'.
Because at Boise, you had to really make sure you were homing in on guys who would be productive past their rating, etc.
At UW - we are recruiting basically the same kids everyone else is. How hard is it really to scout Bijan Robinson or Sav'ell? Are they OKGs?!?!
I mean - they have superlative talent. That's why we got our shit pushed in by tOSU, Penn State and Bama. We need guys like that. It doesn't take some insane OKG-meter to figure out who we need.
B4L is Washington branding (I believe Pete came up with it when he came to UW) and it suits their current mission much better. Instead of having the undercurrent of 'THIS IS THE HARDEST THING YOU WILL EVER DO - IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GO TO OREGON' in our recruiting message, B4L is more 'we will take kids that can go anywhere, and do something with them nowhere else will do'.
OKG is about Pete and Co. prizing slow strategy values and (even though they don't realize it) selecting for obedient, beta kids (yes sir, no sir!!).
B4L is about 'hey, we can get kids like Kevin King (not that he was some extreme knucklehead or anything, but almost certainly a kid we would not recruit now) and make them into big time players and give them a real foundation in life'.
I have ALWAYS felt the tragedy of the OKG recruiting approach was that the kids who desperately NEED B4L won't get it because you are selling it in such a way that it turns off everyone who could REALLY benefit from it. Then we end up preaching to the converted and getting a bunch of beta kids. Nothing wrong with them, but we need a MIX.
As I said on Ep #49 - I NEED B4L!!! I DO!!!! My rich friends who grew up in Magnolia and went to O'Dea don't need it. It's fine for them... but I have ALWAYS felt that Pete's fire for college football will burn brighter and longer if he realizes he has an opportunity to change the lives of a bunch of fast strategy kids who will be used up and spit out by Oregon, USC and whomever else.
I have always felt if Pete could really get in touch with that reality he would really prize his opportunity. And if he realized what a shit-show OKG is perception wise, and what a disaster their 'anti-hype/anti-fun' stance is, and how much it impedes his ability to CHANGE LIVES of kids who NEED it... he would drop it immediately.
White people are really sensitive about this stuff, but it's not that complicated...
For reasons that you will have to pay me to really get into (this is a LONG story)... fast strategy values are baked into black culture in America even if the people themselves are not fast strategy. This is the same in opposition about white people culture in America. In the south with all these meth head lunatics, I see white people talking about 'hard work' and all its virtues (even though Squirrel is not a particularly hard worker).
I love all you white people. Shout out to white people. There is nothing wrong with white people and SOME OF MY BEST FRIENDS ARE WHITE!! I have always said, I don't want to eliminate white people from our program. I love Cade Otton and I love Josh Calvert.
But it's more about a message that is not INTENDED to be exclusionary, but ends up being that way.
That's why I really hope they take this rebrand seriously. I don't want to be Oregon. But just look at the team that won the Natty last year. They have fun, they are a bunch of JIVE ASSES... ...but if Pete honestly looks at the trajectory of Christian Wilkins' life and is able (PLEASE GOD) to realize that this OKG-branding, anti-fun/anti-hype approach will prevent UW from having stories like CW's, I know he would want to change it.
I seriously hope they do.
Another well-thought-out post.
A few years ago I took the time to make posts like this...but then got banned from the website where I posted...Then I got married...Then I had a kid...Now I simply don't have the time nor the energy.
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Dom, looks like KT, who looks like miller, who looks like kevoo. I love that we have a specific length and skill set we look for almost like a conveyor belt into the NFL.
Plug and play indeed. I love it.
I told Damone about three years ago about how I got stopped four times in a row at airports and five times out of six. Damone, who travels way more than I do, said he never gets pulled aside. So we speculated that maybe I was on some list for criticizing President Obama in one of my books. I couldn't think of any other reason. So... Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't.
Was going to respond with "just what you're hearing; don't twist" and "either way, interesting".
Bitch ass honkies.
Thanks Obama!
Let's just say...they have lists for everything and it seems damn near everybody.
Second, great post.
A few years ago I took the time to make posts like this...but then got banned from the website where I posted...Then I got married...Then I had a kid...Now I simply don't have the time nor the energy.
Keep up the fight.