Bernie knows where the votes are in the Rat Party

SFGbob

Convicted and still in prison murders, rapists and terrorists should still have the ability to vote.

Nice fucking party Rats.

http://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1120499361245429760

Southerndawg

Bernie is a peice of shit. Nuff said.

HardlyClothed

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

PurpleThrobber

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

HardlyClothed

PurpleThrobber said:

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.

2001400ex

PurpleThrobber said:

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

What's the quote? Purple throbber is fucking some strawman ass right there....

allpurpleallgold

We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

PurpleThrobber

2001400ex said:

PurpleThrobber said:

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

What's the quote? Purple throbber is fucking some strawman ass right there....

You do understand the difference between questions (see the squiggly thing that looks like this '?') and quotes (which look like this ' " " ') ???

PurpleThrobber

HardlyClothed said:

PurpleThrobber said:

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.

Why? They chose not to adhere to the laws of the land. When they've paid their dues to society, they get to play again. Pretty simple.

Do you give out the juice boxes at half time or wait until the game is over?

RaceBannon

HardlyClothed said:

PurpleThrobber said:

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

Felons lose their rights. it's how it is under the rule of law.

You also in favor of giving convicted murderers the right to bear arms, too?

Don't like it - change the laws.

They should lose some rights. But they interact with the government more closely than most in our society and should have the chance to vote.

Of course I don’t think violent felons should be legally allowed to own a weapon.

Right

No rights except the right to vote for demcrats

JFC

If its important to restore rights to make them part of society then they should have all rights restored

Or none

RaceBannon

allpurpleallgold said:

We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance

allpurpleallgold

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance

Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.

UW_Doog_Bot

Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

SFGbob

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.

SFGbob

HardlyClothed said:

Sounds good. Citizens should have the right to vote. And most felons aren’t rapists, murderers, and terrorists by the way but bad faith pearl clutching is your thing.

And strawman ass fucking is yours. I never said most felons are rapist and murderers my strawman ass fucking Kunt of a friend. But either way Bernie wants to give them the vote. I'm fully in favor of the Rats running on this position. Trump will light Bernie's ass up with this.

SFGbob

allpurpleallgold said:

We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

Its as if these people have no knowledge of our history and human nature.

RaceBannon

allpurpleallgold said:

RaceBannon said:

allpurpleallgold said:

We treat our prisoners like shit in this country. Part of the reason why is because they have no voice in the political process. Prison is a punishment but our goal should be rehabilitation. Allowing prisoners to stay connected to society could be beneficial.

83% of released prisoners are arrested again within 9 years. We are and the system is failing them. We should start by treating them like human beings.


It’s also pretty funny to contrast this with the rights stance on gun control. Even the smallest measure of gun control will end with everyone’s gun rights being taken away (still waiting on Obama to take your guns away) but oh yeah chip away at voting rights, what could go wrong.

Some truth here but they have either failed themselves or their family failed them long before society got a chance

Both can be true. They or their families fail and then we fail them.

I'm not dogmatic on the issue

Fair statement

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

UW_Doog_Bot said:

Decriminalization of marijuana and in my view the decriminalization of the use of other drugs(treat addiction as a public health issue) would solve 81% of the cases of non-violent felons who should be allowed to vote by not making them felons in the first place.

Violate someone else's rights though, and you lose yours. That's the inherent purpose of the government in the first place.

One of the bigger myths going was that our jails were filled with non-violent marijuana users.

As Boehner lied about and WaPo agrees with you on. Congrats.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/04/16/john-boehners-claim-that-we-have-literally-filled-up-our-jails-with-people-for-minor-marijuana-possession/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.26d2bcc9e712

SFGbob

Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

2001400ex

SFGbob said:

Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.

RaceBannon

2001400ex said:

SFGbob said:

Boehner has a lot of company telling that lie and the only reason you looked it up is because you thought I was wrong.

Unlike you Hondo I don't talk out my ass.


And it's a documented fact that Trump's team met with a Russian team to discuss giving DNC emails and Hillary emails to Trump.

Just like the dossier research wasn't funded by a conservative group.

Correct