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  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.
    Come see the chickenhawks call for more pointless brutal war. What great threat does modern Iran represent that we needed to level their country now or 40 years ago.

    Islam knows all about pointless brutal war. I guess embassies can get attacked with 0 consequences
    Chickenhawk wants to go to war against every country in which our embassy was attacked. Gotta be ready to deploy in dozens of them. It’s just common sense.
    Root root root for the away team

    If they don't win its a shame

    For its one two three nuclear strikes and its the old ball game
    Some Condi “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” fear mongering right here.
    Thank God for strong women

    Something your team actively prevents
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.
    Come see the chickenhawks call for more pointless brutal war. What great threat does modern Iran represent that we needed to level their country now or 40 years ago.

    Islam knows all about pointless brutal war. I guess embassies can get attacked with 0 consequences
    Chickenhawk wants to go to war against every country in which our embassy was attacked. Gotta be ready to deploy in dozens of them. It’s just common sense.
    Root root root for the away team

    If they don't win its a shame

    For its one two three nuclear strikes and its the old ball game
    Some Condi “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” fear mongering right here.
    Thank God for strong women

    Something your team actively prevents
    I prefer my strong women not to be war criminals
  • RaceBannon
    RaceBannon Member, Moderator, Swaye's Wigwam Posts: 115,541 Founders Club

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.

    Asked and answered @HardlyClothed

    You don't have to like the answer

    Do unto to others before they do it to you

    Do you agree with the Death to America sentiment in the mid east? Who are you rooting for?

    I just wanted his answer on if we should have overthrown Saddam in ‘03 so we could all see how dumb he is.

    I don’t think the response to Death to America sentiment is to wage endless war against them and wasting our blood and treasure.
    I voted for the invasion, but in hindsight feel it was a mistake and have apologized for it. That said, it wasn't like leaving Saddam in power was a great option either for stability in the region and international precedent when it comes to WMD inspections regimes. It's much like Vietnam in this respeck in that there weren't a lot of good options on the table.
    The good option was to do nothing. Saddam didn’t have WMD and the IAEA said so in 2002, which the Bush admin sought to discredit. We should listen to the people that do the inspections, and probably the people who were against the war from the outset. Removing Saddam was far more disastrous for regional stability than letting him remain in power would have been.
    Yes, the good less bad option was to leave him in power.
    We? should have gone in hard without lube on Saddam during Desert Swarm when the entire fucking world was on our? side.

    Then pivoted and rammed it hard into Iran after a brief refractory period just because we? were tanned and ready.

    This

    I remember 1979 as one of the working stiffs when I saw a guy with a Bomb Iran shirt

    Should have nipped that shit in the bud
    Many of our problems in the Middle East (and Persia) stem from our not going in dry on the Ayatollah in 1979. That was an act of war that required blowing them back into the stone age. Embassies are sovereign soil.
    Come see the chickenhawks call for more pointless brutal war. What great threat does modern Iran represent that we needed to level their country now or 40 years ago.

    Islam knows all about pointless brutal war. I guess embassies can get attacked with 0 consequences
    Chickenhawk wants to go to war against every country in which our embassy was attacked. Gotta be ready to deploy in dozens of them. It’s just common sense.
    Root root root for the away team

    If they don't win its a shame

    For its one two three nuclear strikes and its the old ball game
    Some Condi “we don’t want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud” fear mongering right here.
    Thank God for strong women

    Something your team actively prevents
    I prefer my strong women not to be war criminals
    You like them in a burka a few steps behind
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    Supporting Saddam in the brutal Iran-Iraq war was bad enough, but these chickenhawks think we should’ve gotten our own troops involved and bombed a few thousand Persians ourselves. Just a “common sense” response to an “act of war” like seizing an embassy.
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    Supporting Saddam in the brutal Iran-Iraq war was bad enough, but these chickenhawks think we should’ve gotten our own troops involved and bombed a few thousand Persians ourselves. Just a “common sense” response to an “act of war” like seizing an embassy.

    Supporting Saddam was great realpolitik
  • HardlyClothed
    HardlyClothed Member Posts: 937
    SFGbob said:

    Supporting Saddam in the brutal Iran-Iraq war was bad enough, but these chickenhawks think we should’ve gotten our own troops involved and bombed a few thousand Persians ourselves. Just a “common sense” response to an “act of war” like seizing an embassy.

    Supporting Saddam was great realpolitik
    Was it? The Iraqi invasion was repelled and it ended in stalemate with the Iranian regime still in place and close to a million dead on each side when the fighting ended. Of course an idiot like you thinks that’s brilliant “realpolitik”. Mass unnecessarily death for the sake of your high-minded “realpolitik”. Was overthrowing Saddam in ‘03 brilliant “realpolitik” as well?
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188
    A million dead on each side sounds to me like a good start.

  • PostGameOrangeSlices
    PostGameOrangeSlices Member Posts: 27,678
    edited April 2019

    SFGbob said:

    Supporting Saddam in the brutal Iran-Iraq war was bad enough, but these chickenhawks think we should’ve gotten our own troops involved and bombed a few thousand Persians ourselves. Just a “common sense” response to an “act of war” like seizing an embassy.

    Supporting Saddam was great realpolitik
    Was it? The Iraqi invasion was repelled and it ended in stalemate with the Iranian regime still in place and close to a million dead on each side when the fighting ended. Of course an idiot like you thinks that’s brilliant “realpolitik”. Mass unnecessarily death for the sake of your high-minded “realpolitik”. Was overthrowing Saddam in ‘03 brilliant “realpolitik” as well?

    I like to blame America for Sunni vs Shia violence
  • SFGbob
    SFGbob Member Posts: 33,188

    SFGbob said:

    Supporting Saddam in the brutal Iran-Iraq war was bad enough, but these chickenhawks think we should’ve gotten our own troops involved and bombed a few thousand Persians ourselves. Just a “common sense” response to an “act of war” like seizing an embassy.

    Supporting Saddam was great realpolitik
    Was it? The Iraqi invasion was repelled and it ended in stalemate with the Iranian regime still in place and close to a million dead on each side when the fighting ended. Of course an idiot like you thinks that’s brilliant “realpolitik”. Mass unnecessarily death for the sake of your high-minded “realpolitik”. Was overthrowing Saddam in ‘03 brilliant “realpolitik” as well?

    I like to blame America for Sunni vs Shia violence
    Well we created a "mindset" when we called them evil that made this all possible.
  • TurdBomber
    TurdBomber Member Posts: 20,051 Standard Supporter
    It's almost as if @HardlyClothed isn't aware of a country called Kuwait.